Photokina!

RonHendriks1966 · 07-24-2014, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by x4rd

I'm just saying that when it comes to bodies - Pentax is in my opinion one of the best on the market but lacks in reponsive, fast and silent glass. I'm crossing my fingers for updating the FA Limited line with DC, WR and 1.4 aperture(1.2 will be killer in price probably).

At least it will give the new lenses a killer price. I hope they just don't do that, but would be nice to see some new lens in the FA range. One in the wide angle and a tele lens.

mee · 07-24-2014, 03:07 PM

Read on a photo news site that a new Fuji camera reportedly to be announced at Photokina was leaked due to a tester uploading images to flickr with the exif intact... haha.. has anyone screened the photo sharing sites for new Pentax cameras in the exif data?

lytrytyr · 07-25-2014, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by x4rd

I'm crossing my fingers for updating the FA Limited line with DC, WR and 1.4 aperture.

If it's anything like for the DA lenses (e.g., DA* 55), those features would be FA*, not FA Limited.

**Aristophanes** · 07-25-2014, 06:54 AM

Just to stoke everyone's rumour mill...

...I heard from a distributor they can no longer order the Ricoh GR.

zapp · 07-25-2014, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by marmaduke

Cologne, 16.-21.09.2014
Strange, no fervour for the damn thing. it's literally 2 months (ish) away. how come we got no rumours going??

heres the link by the way:
photokina | Home

there isn't much to go on. but still, no rampant religious chanting for a FF?? where are my pentax cultists FFS?

This is not the rumor forum, this is the official announcement forum - read the sticky note in this forum. Rumors from sources other than Pentax/Ricoh are not deamed credible.

ElJamoquio · 07-25-2014, 08:09 AM

That's always been confusing. It says 'Pentax News and Rumors' at the top. Heck, once I even dissected a Pentax press release and it still got moved.

**WillWeaverRVA** · 07-25-2014, 08:13 AM

I'm cautiously optimistic there'll be a product announcement at photokina. I don't expect it to be FF, but who knows? Maybe it'll be a K-50 successor based on the K-3 instead of the K-5 (Nikon D5300 and Canon T5i competitor)?

D1N0 · 07-25-2014, 08:28 AM

Samyang may have something in store for us. Rokinon/Samyang still planning to release a new 50mm f/1.2 lens | Photo Rumors

rawr · 07-25-2014, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Rokinon/Samyang still planning to release a new 50mm f/1.2 lens | Photo Rumors

Cool. I wish they would start making AF lenses though.

ElJamoquio · 07-25-2014, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by rawr

Cool. I wish they would start making AF lenses though.

Yeah, I don't think manual focus is really for me, except in limited cases. Still thinking about getting that tilt-shift, though; the only thing that's stopping me is the 6 blades.

rawr · 07-25-2014, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

Yeah, I don't think manual focus is really for me, except in limited cases.

Ditto. It's pretty hard doing manual focus with the SamYang 85/1.4, especially in poor light. A 50/1.2 would be just as awkward. When you have a camera that has an AF system as sensitive as the K-3's, not putting it to use driving modern fast glass seems a waste.

Mistral75 · 07-25-2014, 10:03 AM

The rumoured Samyang 50mm lens is designed for system cameras (mirrorless), not DSLRs.

Kunzite · 07-25-2014, 10:08 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by rawr

Ditto. It's pretty hard doing manual focus with the SamYang 85/1.4, especially in poor light. A 50/1.2 would be just as awkward. When you have a camera that has an AF system as sensitive as the K-3's, not putting it to use driving modern fast glass seems a waste.

I prefer autofocus to out-of-focus

rawr · 07-25-2014, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by dcshooter

...even with Canon's much smaller AF points. MF has far better control in critical focusing situations, particularly with portraiture, where it is essential to have the eyes in focus.
If anything, I'd think the ideal solution would be MF with in-body focus peaking. Here's hoping that the peaking feature in the next generation of Pentax DSLRs catches up to their competitors', since right now it is pretty abysmal.

Hmm. Canon's much smaller AF points... Do you have a K-3? The focus point density of the K-3 seems little different to any current Canon:
K-3

70D

1Dx

And focus peaking, as well as Live View generally, works a treat on the K-3.

The problem I have with MF and fast f1.4 lenses is not in using them for studio shoots with good lighting, but in [ab]using them for live music shoots and general event shooting in low-light interiors. There's often very little visible contrast in the viewfinder, and the subject is often moving around a lot. It can be done with manual focus, but decent AF would makes it easier and probably improve the keeper rate substantially. Much as I like my Rokinon 85, I've been thinking of replacing it with a Sigma 85 or FA 77 for just that reason.

D1N0 · 07-25-2014, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

The rumoured Samyang 50mm lens is designed for system cameras (mirrorless), not DSLRs.

says you

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07-24-2014, 07:03 AM	#181
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by x4rd I'm just saying that when it comes to bodies - Pentax is in my opinion one of the best on the market but lacks in reponsive, fast and silent glass. I'm crossing my fingers for updating the FA Limited line with DC, WR and 1.4 aperture(1.2 will be killer in price probably). At least it will give the new lenses a killer price. I hope they just don't do that, but would be nice to see some new lens in the FA range. One in the wide angle and a tele lens.

07-24-2014, 03:07 PM	#182
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Read on a photo news site that a new Fuji camera reportedly to be announced at Photokina was leaked due to a tester uploading images to flickr with the exif intact... haha.. has anyone screened the photo sharing sites for new Pentax cameras in the exif data?

07-25-2014, 06:43 AM	#183
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by x4rd I'm crossing my fingers for updating the FA Limited line with DC, WR and 1.4 aperture. If it's anything like for the DA lenses (e.g., DA* 55), those features would be FA*, not FA Limited.

07-25-2014, 06:54 AM	#184
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Just to stoke everyone's rumour mill... ...I heard from a distributor they can no longer order the Ricoh GR.

07-25-2014, 07:23 AM	#185
zapp Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,385	Originally posted by marmaduke Cologne, 16.-21.09.2014 Strange, no fervour for the damn thing. it's literally 2 months (ish) away. how come we got no rumours going?? heres the link by the way: photokina \| Home there isn't much to go on. but still, no rampant religious chanting for a FF?? where are my pentax cultists FFS? This is not the rumor forum, this is the official announcement forum - read the sticky note in this forum. Rumors from sources other than Pentax/Ricoh are not deamed credible.

07-25-2014, 08:09 AM	#186
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	That's always been confusing. It says 'Pentax News and Rumors' at the top. Heck, once I even dissected a Pentax press release and it still got moved.

07-25-2014, 08:13 AM	#187
WillWeaverRVA Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Richmond, VA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,071	I'm cautiously optimistic there'll be a product announcement at photokina. I don't expect it to be FF, but who knows? Maybe it'll be a K-50 successor based on the K-3 instead of the K-5 (Nikon D5300 and Canon T5i competitor)?

07-25-2014, 08:28 AM	#188
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Samyang may have something in store for us. Rokinon/Samyang still planning to release a new 50mm f/1.2 lens \| Photo Rumors

07-25-2014, 08:37 AM	#189
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by D1N0 Rokinon/Samyang still planning to release a new 50mm f/1.2 lens \| Photo Rumors Cool. I wish they would start making AF lenses though.

07-25-2014, 08:39 AM	#190
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by rawr Cool. I wish they would start making AF lenses though. Yeah, I don't think manual focus is really for me, except in limited cases. Still thinking about getting that tilt-shift, though; the only thing that's stopping me is the 6 blades.

07-25-2014, 08:47 AM	#191
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by ElJamoquio Yeah, I don't think manual focus is really for me, except in limited cases. Ditto. It's pretty hard doing manual focus with the SamYang 85/1.4, especially in poor light. A 50/1.2 would be just as awkward. When you have a camera that has an AF system as sensitive as the K-3's, not putting it to use driving modern fast glass seems a waste.

07-25-2014, 10:03 AM	#192
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	The rumoured Samyang 50mm lens is designed for system cameras (mirrorless), not DSLRs.

07-25-2014, 10:08 AM - 2 Likes	#193
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by rawr Ditto. It's pretty hard doing manual focus with the SamYang 85/1.4, especially in poor light. A 50/1.2 would be just as awkward. When you have a camera that has an AF system as sensitive as the K-3's, not putting it to use driving modern fast glass seems a waste. I prefer autofocus to out-of-focus

07-25-2014, 10:10 AM	#194
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by dcshooter ...even with Canon's much smaller AF points. MF has far better control in critical focusing situations, particularly with portraiture, where it is essential to have the eyes in focus. If anything, I'd think the ideal solution would be MF with in-body focus peaking. Here's hoping that the peaking feature in the next generation of Pentax DSLRs catches up to their competitors', since right now it is pretty abysmal. Hmm. Canon's much smaller AF points... Do you have a K-3? The focus point density of the K-3 seems little different to any current Canon: K-3 70D 1Dx And focus peaking, as well as Live View generally, works a treat on the K-3. The problem I have with MF and fast f1.4 lenses is not in using them for studio shoots with good lighting, but in [ab]using them for live music shoots and general event shooting in low-light interiors. There's often very little visible contrast in the viewfinder, and the subject is often moving around a lot. It can be done with manual focus, but decent AF would makes it easier and probably improve the keeper rate substantially. Much as I like my Rokinon 85, I've been thinking of replacing it with a Sigma 85 or FA 77 for just that reason.

07-25-2014, 10:24 AM	#195
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by Mistral75 The rumoured Samyang 50mm lens is designed for system cameras (mirrorless), not DSLRs. says you