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07-08-2014, 12:14 AM   #16
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07-08-2014, 01:55 AM   #17
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QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
When has the need for something ever been a concern for Ricoh

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wow it's not even in de lens serial numbers database. Not a single member owns this lens?????????
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
wow it's not even in de lens serial numbers database. Not a single member owns this lens?????????
Why would anyone buy this lens? Why would anyone build a lens with a minimum focus distance of 5.6 meters? There are enough copies of the FA* 250-600/5.6 and FA* 600/4 to meet the demand for lenses of this focal length. The Sigma 500/4.5 is available new for much less money.
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wow it's not even in de lens serial numbers database. Not a single member owns this lens?????????
One member does, he hinted that he got it at a severe discount.

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One member does, he hinted that he got it at a severe discount.
It's now 4269 euro (starting at 5.999 euro) wich makes it cheaper then the Sigma 500mm at 4649 euro.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
It's now 4269 euro (starting at 5.999 euro) wich makes it cheaper then the Sigma 500mm at 4649 euro.
I think he used words like "an offer no one would refuse", which made me think it was even less eexpensive.
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Getting back to Photokina, I have the feeling that the tight opsec Ricoh is maintaining about it's plans for Photokina may be a positive sign. Putting the best possible spin on it, they may actually have a big news cargo enroute to Photokina that they want to protect.

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I'm still trying to console myself with the 800 ISO images on my K-3 not being as good as the 6400 ISO on the 645z. I don't mind a stop and a third like on a D800, but 3 stops... that's just not fair. Only $9,000 (with tax and no lens) to buy into the club.... once I get over that, I might start speculating about an FF again.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
It's now 4269 euro (starting at 5.999 euro) wich makes it cheaper then the Sigma 500mm at 4649 euro.
That's in Europe. The US price is still $6995.95 (5100 euro). The US price for the Sigma 500mm is $4999 (3675 euro).
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I'm still trying to console myself with the 800 ISO images on my K-3 not being as good as the 6400 ISO on the 645z. I don't mind a stop and a third like on a D800, but 3 stops... that's just not fair. Only $9,000 (with tax and no lens) to buy into the club.... once I get over that, I might start speculating about an FF again.
Wouldn't it be great if they cut out a 20 megapixel APS-H sensor from that wafer they make that 645Z sensor from? Put it inside a K-3 like body, but with a larger viewfinder.
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20 megapixel APS-H sensor
I think the last APS-H body was the Canon ID IV from 2009. Things have moved on.
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Wishes - completely uninformed! - for Photokina, in decreasing order of probability:
  • K-60 with 20 or 24mp and some AF improvements, maybe 14-bit raw;
  • Q macro lens;
  • 16-85ish (finally);
  • K-3z with tilting LCD and hybrid electronic/optical viewfinder;
  • K-1 full frame mirrorless with IBIS.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
I think the last APS-H body was the Canon ID IV from 2009. Things have moved on.
That's why I would want a new modern sensor. The 645Z sensor seems off excellent quality and maybe that is beacause it is more expensive to produce and that isn't an issue since it is for a premium camera.
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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
I don't mind a stop and a third like on a D800, but 3 stops... that's just not fair.
It's two stops. Stop spreading disinformation please.
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ISO 800 -> 1600 -> 3200 -> 6400. 3 stops difference.
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