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08-11-2014, 12:24 AM   #616
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QuoteOriginally posted by Asahiflex Quote
It's just a Photoshopped image; not the actual camera. In fact it's the Mamiya 645DF:
Ah, thank you. Mamiya is one brand I know nothing about.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Asahiflex Quote
It's just a Photoshopped image; not the actual camera. In fact it's the Mamiya 645DF:
Actually I was pointing out more at the announcement itself, it just happens to contain a big image which is most probably like you said, an altered image. But in any case, if Canon IS serious about launching a MF camera this Photokina, that would be a big threat to Pentax's 645 system, given their extensive "cover" (and marketing of course)

So while the Ricoh reps are very uptight on any big guns they're hiding for the year's biggest photography expo, I just hope they have what it takes to survive the next 5 years against the big boys encroaching on all sides.
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About that ''Canon-Mamiya'' MF camera, I has some doubts that will be made with Sony sensor, knowing how much work Canon is making in developing new and also big sensors.
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Come on, people - every camera manufacturer but Panasonic was rumored to enter the minuscule medium format market. Do you still believe such rumors?
The Canon MF was probably made up by some Canon user upset that Pentax has a larger format camera.

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I've once heard a rumor on Canon investing in Phase One, which Mamiya is making lenses for. The easiest way for Canon to enter MF is to buy Phase One=Mamiya.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan Quote
Ah, thank you. Mamiya is one brand I know nothing about.
Mamiya and Leaf belong to Phase One, which is the largest maker of medium format digital backs and associated cameras.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Mamiya and Leaf belong to Phase One, which is the largest maker of medium format digital backs and associated cameras.
Wait, if this is the case, then in truth there's only Hasselblad and Phase One in the MF market, aside from Pentax?

edit: oh there's Leica too
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Maybe you just should use a Full Frame lens on it and stop cropping...........
Yes but Nikon has this feature. Pentax can't avoid it.
Nikon has also a crop mode for APS-C camera - crop to 4/3rd I think. Some of my friends appreciate this feature

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QuoteOriginally posted by Alizarine Quote
Wait, if this is the case, then in truth there's only Hasselblad and Phase One in the MF market, aside from Pentax?

edit: oh there's Leica too
You are right, there are currently four players in the digital medium format market: Hasselblad, Leica, Pentax and Phase One / Leaf / Mamiya. And three sensor designers: Sony (CMOS), Teledyne Dalsa (CCD) and Truesense Imaging (CCD, about to exit).
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while we're talking about MF
QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
You are right, there are currently four players in the digital medium format market: Hasselblad, Leica, Pentax and Phase One / Leaf / Mamiya. And three sensor designers: Sony (CMOS), Teledyne Dalsa (CCD) and Truesense Imaging (CCD, about to exit).
How about Aptina? Don't they design sensors too? Ah and there's Toshiba also... Or is that one for processors (e.g. Fujitsu)?

and while I'm at it... Leica seems to be launching a 4k-video-capable new S model in Photokina 2014. How is Pentax gonna one-up that one.. aside from price?
New Leica S to be Announced at Photokina, Packs a 40-50MP CMOS Sensor & 4K Video
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
You are right, there are currently four players in the digital medium format market: Hasselblad, Leica, Pentax and Phase One / Leaf / Mamiya. And three sensor designers: Sony (CMOS), Teledyne Dalsa (CCD) and Truesense Imaging (CCD, about to exit).
Yep, AFAIK, TrueSense (old Kodak) is out and IMO, if Dalsa doesn't something special (and IMO opens to other OEMs than PhaseOne) they'll be out very soon.
Sony sensors are that good. And a single supplier su**s for obvious reasons.
Maybe if DALSA offered well priced Full645 sensors at acceptable prices...
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I think toshiba sensors are on pretty much on par with sony though.... too bad they don't make a big sensor; but I'm hoping they or someone else tries for a 56x41.
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Canonikon MF is not very likely since they would have to develop a whole new line of lenses. The same reason why Pentax doesn't have a MILC with a aps-c sensor yet. I would sooner see Fuji come with a milc mf camera looking at the companies history.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Alizarine Quote
Wait, if this is the case, then in truth there's only Hasselblad and Phase One in the MF market, aside from Pentax?

edit: oh there's Leica too
Yep, that is pretty much the case, though it is a little more complicated than that given the number of modular systems out there designed to use the Hassy or Phase One backs.


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The Canon MF rumor is like the Pentax FF rumor. Canon bought all of the Contax 645 patents and tooling when Contax went out of business. I had bought into the Contax 645 system about 8 months before the company tanked. Many of us Contax shooters where hoping Canon was going to bring the line back, but it never happened.
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