Pentax XG-1 (X-5 successor)

D1N0 · 07-14-2014, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Well selecting at at least 30x zoom there are camera's for 159 euro and Sony's H400 only costing 279 euro. So this is the competition for offering the cheapest camera.

The H400 is really a low specked version of the HX400 CCD chip no 1080p no lots of other goodies.
Sony DSC-HX400V vs DSC-H400 - Our Analysis

**Rondec** · 07-14-2014, 07:01 AM

I always wonder how much Pentax has to do with the design of these camera. Feels like they are a pretty standard camera with some cosmetic external changes and re-badging depending on the company. A pretty low risk proposition from Pentax stand point, anyway.

RonHendriks1966 · 07-14-2014, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

The H400 is really a low specked version of the HX400 CCD chip no 1080p no lots of other goodies.
Sony DSC-HX400V vs DSC-H400 - Our Analysis

Well since you come up with the list. The X-5 is #36 of the overal list, camera's superzooms that came out in the last two years. So that is the runner-up for mediocre camera's:

http://snapsort.com/explore/best-super-zooms/24-months-recent

Mistral75 · 07-14-2014, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Adam

(...) I'm sure it will be announced at photokina, if not earlier.

Told ya!

Originally posted by Mistral75

In a few days actually.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/268111-xg-1-officially-presented.html

Alizarine · 07-14-2014, 10:36 PM

Looks like a K-50 lol

D1N0 · 07-15-2014, 04:28 AM - **1 Like**

It is the same thing as this one. Kodak Digital Cameras | AZ522 Cheap chinese crap.

RonHendriks1966 · 07-15-2014, 04:46 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

It is the same thing as this one. Kodak Digital Cameras | AZ522 Cheap chinese crap.

oh boy yes it looks like it.

D1N0 · 07-15-2014, 04:56 AM

well at least there didn't go any development resources into it...

and we can already watch a review:

You Tube

Uluru · 07-15-2014, 05:25 AM

And now behold the Ricoh HZ15 camera:
http://www.kodakcamera.jkiltd.com/Americas/cameras/friendlyZoom/fz151.php

Again, same thing. Today's cheap compact cameras are all OEMs. Ricoh Imaging did not spend a day designing optics or internals for these.
The MX-1 is an OEM camera too; only the packaging is made by Ricoh Imaging on a more elaborate level worth considering.

So I think such new "Pentax releases" should be totally ignored -- this is nonsense, not a product made by Pentax / Ricoh Imaging at all.

D1N0 · 07-15-2014, 05:30 AM

But at least it shares internals with the excellent olympus xz-2

Uluru · 07-15-2014, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

But at least it shares internals with the excellent olympus xz-2

It is not Olympus. It is OEM, made by Sanyo.
It is all nonsense. If I can appreciate anything that would be styling; I like Pentax brass top plate much better, and that's all.

I am still waiting for some real news about a real product designed and made by that team, because they have not been working on this product above at all. But in the meantime we are served with a warmed up meal from a tin can in (what was supposed to be) a first class restaurant.

Kunzite · 07-15-2014, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by Uluru

Today's cheap compact cameras are all OEMs. Ricoh Imaging did not spend a day designing optics or internals for these.
The MX-1 is an OEM camera too; only the packaging is made by Ricoh Imaging on a more elaborate level worth considering.

But this shouldn't stop us complaining that precious resources were diverted from the "full frame" project

mee · 07-15-2014, 05:47 AM

It is disappointing to see such a small sensor used on this big bridge camera.. Why not use at least a half inch sized sensor on these?? It seems the trend on enthusiast pocketable compacts is increasing sensor size.

Kunzite · 07-15-2014, 06:27 AM

Because the lens would have to be much bigger, I guess.

RonHendriks1966 · 07-15-2014, 06:31 AM

And a review:

http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/kodak_pixpro_az521_review/

---------- Post added 15-07-14 at 15:33 ----------

On sale in the UK, the Kodak equivalent for 149,99 pound:

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1441376.htm

07-15-2014, 05:25 AM	#39
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	And now behold the Ricoh HZ15 camera: http://www.kodakcamera.jkiltd.com/Americas/cameras/friendlyZoom/fz151.php Again, same thing. Today's cheap compact cameras are all OEMs. Ricoh Imaging did not spend a day designing optics or internals for these. The MX-1 is an OEM camera too; only the packaging is made by Ricoh Imaging on a more elaborate level worth considering. So I think such new "Pentax releases" should be totally ignored -- this is nonsense, not a product made by Pentax / Ricoh Imaging at all. Last edited by Uluru; 07-15-2014 at 05:33 AM.

07-15-2014, 05:35 AM	#41
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by D1N0 But at least it shares internals with the excellent olympus xz-2 It is not Olympus. It is OEM, made by Sanyo. It is all nonsense. If I can appreciate anything that would be styling; I like Pentax brass top plate much better, and that's all. I am still waiting for some real news about a real product designed and made by that team, because they have not been working on this product above at all. But in the meantime we are served with a warmed up meal from a tin can in (what was supposed to be) a first class restaurant. Last edited by Uluru; 07-15-2014 at 05:41 AM.

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07-14-2014, 06:39 AM	#31
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Well selecting at at least 30x zoom there are camera's for 159 euro and Sony's H400 only costing 279 euro. So this is the competition for offering the cheapest camera. The H400 is really a low specked version of the HX400 CCD chip no 1080p no lots of other goodies. Sony DSC-HX400V vs DSC-H400 - Our Analysis

07-14-2014, 07:01 AM	#32
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	I always wonder how much Pentax has to do with the design of these camera. Feels like they are a pretty standard camera with some cosmetic external changes and re-badging depending on the company. A pretty low risk proposition from Pentax stand point, anyway.

07-14-2014, 07:13 AM	#33
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by D1N0 The H400 is really a low specked version of the HX400 CCD chip no 1080p no lots of other goodies. Sony DSC-HX400V vs DSC-H400 - Our Analysis Well since you come up with the list. The X-5 is #36 of the overal list, camera's superzooms that came out in the last two years. So that is the runner-up for mediocre camera's: http://snapsort.com/explore/best-super-zooms/24-months-recent

07-14-2014, 10:14 PM	#34
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Adam (...) I'm sure it will be announced at photokina, if not earlier. Told ya! Originally posted by Mistral75 In a few days actually. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/268111-xg-1-officially-presented.html

07-14-2014, 10:36 PM	#35
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	Looks like a K-50 lol

07-15-2014, 04:28 AM - 1 Like	#36
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	It is the same thing as this one. Kodak Digital Cameras \| AZ522 Cheap chinese crap.

07-15-2014, 04:46 AM	#37
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by D1N0 It is the same thing as this one. Kodak Digital Cameras \| AZ522 Cheap chinese crap. oh boy yes it looks like it.

07-15-2014, 05:30 AM	#40
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	But at least it shares internals with the excellent olympus xz-2

07-15-2014, 05:39 AM	#42
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Uluru Today's cheap compact cameras are all OEMs. Ricoh Imaging did not spend a day designing optics or internals for these. The MX-1 is an OEM camera too; only the packaging is made by Ricoh Imaging on a more elaborate level worth considering. But this shouldn't stop us complaining that precious resources were diverted from the "full frame" project

07-15-2014, 05:47 AM	#43
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	It is disappointing to see such a small sensor used on this big bridge camera.. Why not use at least a half inch sized sensor on these?? It seems the trend on enthusiast pocketable compacts is increasing sensor size.

07-15-2014, 06:27 AM	#44
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Because the lens would have to be much bigger, I guess.

07-15-2014, 06:31 AM	#45
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	And a review: http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/kodak_pixpro_az521_review/ ---------- Post added 15-07-14 at 15:33 ---------- On sale in the UK, the Kodak equivalent for 149,99 pound: http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1441376.htm