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07-25-2014, 01:44 PM   #121
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QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
Pentax has just officially announced the K-3 Prestige Edition:

Pentax K-3 Prestige Edition Announced - Pentax News & Rumors

Pre-Order ($1399)
Is this "prestige" edition incl. or excl. mirrorflapping and other lockup issues?

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QuoteOriginally posted by stillshot2 Quote
No, I thought it was the K3 and the 20-40mm lens for $1400
The K-50 and the 20-40mm lens for $1400, that's what I paid.
But those extra eight megapickles and two raw bits per channel will cost you.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Didn't specify the year.
The specific flash you stated as bundled might be rather 'vintage' though if it isn't this year.. since it is already discontinued..
07-25-2014, 03:26 PM   #124
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
The K-50 and the 20-40mm lens for $1400, that's what I paid.
But those extra eight megapickles and two raw bits per channel will cost you.
Oh, but its is much more than that. The K-3 is incomparable with K-50 and all previous models.
New metering alone is worth the price difference.

I am eagerly looking forward to see the new models built around the K-3. And that is why, I believe, Ricoh Imaging is not announcing a new model below the K-3, which uses a lot of K-3-tech. Not yet. I think to many people such a new model (or models?) would be more than sufficient.

If they can muster in the meantime a few more $$ by renewing the interest in the K-3, and sell the remaining K-50s, the better for them.

This gunmetal Prestige edition is just that: a reminder to buy the K-3 and its tech at a price still higher than it will be in October / November, when a new camera that has 90% of K-3 tech is introduced.

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It certainly looks like a similar pattern to 2013 (as Asahi man previously suggested...see below).

A slow and steady trickle of smaller announcements (XG-1, K-3 PE,....) to keep Pentax in the spotlight, leading up to a major announcement towards year-end (Photokina or even after that).

What will the major announcement/s this year be? Who knows. A conservative estimate would be several new K-mount lenses (the suggested telezoom and 70-200, perhaps even refreshed FA Ltds). A more optimistic view would see a new camera as well (with FF being the most likely candidate...but definitely not a sure thing).

QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man Quote
2014 will be very interesting,like the known end of 2013.
Look to the great K-3,Flashes,new Limited HD Line and Limited zoom.
And...this is only the beginning of a new Pentax Time
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I am eagerly looking forward to see the new models built around the K-3. And that is why, I believe, Ricoh Imaging is not announcing a new model below the K-3, which uses a lot of K-3-tech. Not yet. I think to many people such a new model (or models?) would be more than sufficient.

The K-3 is a new. Fat chance we will se an upgrade anytime soon....
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The K-3 is a new. Fat chance we will se an upgrade anytime soon....
By photokina, the announcement of the k-3 will be 11 months old. if i recall correctly, there were 13 months between the k5ii and the k3. so it's possible, they might speed up their cycle to have a new model each year, 3 months before christmas.

only saying it's possible - i think though there's going to be a new model either below or above the k3 at photokina. 2 months is too short a time to sell those 2000 prestige-k3s
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QuoteOriginally posted by Alcazar Quote
By photokina, the announcement of the k-3 will be 11 months old. if i recall correctly, there were 13 months between the k5ii and the k3. so it's possible, they might speed up their cycle to have a new model each year, 3 months before christmas.

only saying it's possible - i think though there's going to be a new model either below or above the k3 at photokina. 2 months is too short a time to sell those 2000 prestige-k3s
The K-5 IIs is a rehash of a 2010 model. Can't say it's exactly just 13 months of difference in technology between the two. But as much as the K-5 classic is a big difference in performance vs. the K-7 (which was an upgraded K20D, in effect), a successor to the K-3 might come later than expected. Unless a higher model comes up maybe. But you're right - 2000 units of the K3 PE to sell in two months is too short. There are brand new K-5 Classic SE units out there still unsold to this day.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Alcazar Quote
By photokina, the announcement of the k-3 will be 11 months old. if i recall correctly, there were 13 months between the k5ii and the k3. so it's possible, they might speed up their cycle to have a new model each year, 3 months before christmas.

only saying it's possible - i think though there's going to be a new model either below or above the k3 at photokina. 2 months is too short a time to sell those 2000 prestige-k3s
I sincerely doubt it. K-3 will stay for a while. I mean, what in regards to extra hardware that camera lacks? Nothing — all is already there, and possible improvements are possible in software only. We would welcome those.

We may see a model or two below the K-3 in following months, and just maybe a 35mm K-mount camera.

But the K-3 is the center of the Pentax universe for a while. Just remember the Canon 7D — it is still sold as new, and it is by all means a very old camera. Times of frantic teary "upgrades" are over. Future cameras will be updated every few years (3-4 years is my rough estimate, and only if the sensor tech necessitates), and the focus will be on improving details through the software.

This is the DSLR ground, not some pointless annual mirrorless fad; DSLRs are built to last, and stand the test times.
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It looks cool! My first thought when I saw it was, this is how it should have looked right from the launch of the original. That said, good looks is not going to get me to buy anything right now. My K5 do look pretty worn even though it hasn't been dropped or bumped into anything - much more so than my lenses. My second thought was, in my hands it would not be going to stay pretty for long :-)

Didn't they (Ricoh exec.) talk about having to work on the video part in some interview lately? I know it is not really a popular feature around here, but that is where they have work to do (I don't expect much is going to happen on the AF-front - they have talked about that as long as I have owned a DSLR) and where they actually CAN do something. I can't say I find my K5 a pleasure to use.

Like Uluru I don't really see a need for more APS-C bodies.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Alcazar Quote
By photokina, the announcement of the k-3 will be 11 months old. if i recall correctly, there were 13 months between the k5ii and the k3. so it's possible, they might speed up their cycle to have a new model each year, 3 months before christmas.
I think market developement makes it more believeble if we keep the K-3 a year longer.

The only logical upgrade to the K-3 in top tier would be if it would get a new processing engine that can handle 4k video and more stuff. I don't think that it will be the case. The electronic infrasturcture is one of the most expensive parts in a camera and I think we will keep the PRIME III for a few more years.
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I think market developement makes it more believeble if we keep the K-3 a year longer.

The only logical upgrade to the K-3 in top tier would be if it would get a new processing engine that can handle 4k video and more stuff. I don't think that it will be the case. The electronic infrasturcture is one of the most expensive parts in a camera and I think we will keep the PRIME III for a few more years.
It is an admittedly small sample to go by, but I wonder if they will continue what they did with the K-5 and do small yearly revisions in between major updates to the flagship every 2 years or so. Something similar to a software release cycle with incremental releases between the major ".0" releases.

Of course, if this is the case, it would be rather odd to see a K-3 II drop so soon after the prestige edition, but perhaps Ricoh wanted to squeeze one last run out of the original dies before retooling/tweaking for an updated version. If this is the case, the prestige bodies might be the last of the "classic" K-3s to be made! Unlike Canon, Pentax doesn't seem to have the production capacity to produce more than one high end aps-c body (not counting minor variations like the K-5 IIs) at once. This will be even more true if a FF is added to the mix.

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But the K-3 is the center of the Pentax universe for a while. Just remember the Canon 7D — it is still sold as new, and it is by all means a very old camera. Times of frantic teary "upgrades" are over..
The Canon is also a very strong seller. Possibly the worlds most sold camera targeted at enthusiasts. No need to replace something that sells itself....
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Unfortunately, I've been a Pentax user long enough to know that we easily have the whiniest user base of any camera brand, which is sad, given a) how many great Pentax products there are b) how small a brand it is.
+1. Whiny ad finitum.
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It is an admittedly small sample to go by, but I wonder if they will continue what they did with the K-5 and do small yearly revisions in between major updates to the flagship every 2 years or so. Something similar to a software release cycle with incremental releases between the major ".0" releases.
Between K-5 and K-3 is three years. So likely the next one will be coming Photokina 2016 with maybe an inbetween K-3 II upgrade next year.

---------- Post added 26-07-14 at 16:15 ----------

Wel the new K-3 didn't got a lot of trafic on DPReview. Not in the top 10 over the last 5 days (yet):

http://www.dpreview.com/products/slrs/statistics

Only the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ1000 makes a big splash. More popular then any other camera. Because it is the only real new camera with new futures for a while.
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