Q-S1: a new production run of Q7

**monochrome** · 08-05-2014, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

Next stop - pallets in Costco/ASDA/WalMart/SAMs..etc.

Everything is about getting a large installed base of Q-mounts (and k-mounts) into the market. If the installed base is large enough there's a market for accessories and licensed third-party products, but until there's a large installed base the List Price of an accessory makes selling it impossible.

Recall one objection to the original, magnesium alloy body Q was its price - then Pentax had the brand-killing experience of endless Q/02 kits on NewEgg for $199 (What a steal - I bought 4 of those deals all told and gave them as presents). How many posters on these threads are licking their chops waiting for NewEgg deals on the Q7?

I think enthusiasts have to tolerate mass-market iterations of Q-mount and K-mount cameras in order to have what we want in the premium line.

**LaurenOE** · 08-05-2014, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Everything is about getting a large installed base of Q-mounts (and k-mounts) into the market. If the installed base is large enough there's a market for accessories and licensed third-party products, but until there's a large installed base the List Price of an accessory makes selling it impossible.

Recall one objection to the original, magnesium alloy body Q was its price - then Pentax had the brand-killing experience of endless Q/02 kits on NewEgg for $199 (What a steal - I bought 4 of those deals all told and gave them as presents). How many posters on these threads are licking their chops waiting for NewEgg deals on the Q7?

I think enthusiasts have to tolerate mass-market iterations of Q-mount and K-mount cameras in order to have what we want in the premium line.

I suppose.
When they fire-sale the Q7, I will probably pick one up.
I too bought 2 Q cameras when they were on fire sale.
Lately I picked up an MX-1 and am enjoying that.
As long as they keep putting Pentax on the camera, I'm a sucker.

Hmmm...maybe if we see more Ricoh on gear, I can break free of the cycle!!!

thibs · 08-06-2014, 12:45 AM

Is this a square crop mode? If so this is VERY nice IMO, even if only JPEG (RAW would be better, still)

Quote:

JPEG
[4:3]L:12M(4000x3000),M:7M(3072x2304),S:3M(1920x1440)
[3:2]L:10M(4000x2664),M:6M(3072x2048),S:2M(1920x1280)
[16:9]L:9M(4000x2248),M:5M(3072x1728),S:2M(1920x1080)
[1:1]L:9M(2992x2992),M:5M(2304x2304),S:2M(1440x1440)

ZombieArmy · 08-06-2014, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

How many posters on these threads are licking their chops waiting for NewEgg deals on the Q7?

You got me

Caat · 08-06-2014, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Is this a square crop mode? If so this is VERY nice IMO, even if only JPEG (RAW would be better, still)

Doesn't the Q almost do this anyway? Although if it's an actual JPEG setting versus the Q's effective 'auto-cropping' it could be more convenient I guess.

**crewl1** · 08-06-2014, 08:17 AM

The Q7 manual has all the info you want to know, and I suspect it will see little change for the Q-s1.
The amount of control and options they have given to the photographer is astounding, almost like a little Pentax DSLR.
It is one of the reasons the Q series is so much fun.
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/q7.pdf

digital029art · 08-06-2014, 10:14 AM

Original Q zoom kit has been on Amaze-on at $199 for at least a couple of years (in black) - still available. It's obvious that Ricoh isn't investing much into the Q line, maybe they're waiting for the (ex Japan) market to warm up?
Really it does seem that Ricoh's main modus operandi is "makeover" as evidenced in the Q and DSLR lines for 3 years already. We shall find out in a few weeks, but this pattern does make one wonder what (if any) vision Ricoh has for the Pentax brand!?

6BQ5 · 08-06-2014, 11:43 AM

Maybe Ricoh is gearing up for some Q lens releases in September? That would compliment the Q-S1 we're seeing now.

Mistral75 · 08-06-2014, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by 6BQ5

Maybe Ricoh is gearing up for some Q lens releases in September? That would compliment the Q-S1 we're seeing now.

Telephoto Macro lens.

devorama · 08-06-2014, 12:16 PM

If only they had announced this with a new wide prime for the Q system, I'd probably buy one. I had the original Q and loved it, but I wanted something like a 35mm FoV equivalent prime to walk around with. I think it's rather odd that we have an ultrawide zoom that fewer people are interested in, yet no wide prime.

Cambo · 08-06-2014, 04:11 PM

DOOMED!

Nice little camera, though.

Cheers,
Cameron

**barondla** · 08-06-2014, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by devorama

If only they had announced this with a new wide prime for the Q system, I'd probably buy one. I had the original Q and loved it, but I wanted something like a 35mm FoV equivalent prime to walk around with. I think it's rather odd that we have an ultrawide zoom that fewer people are interested in, yet no wide prime.

The 01 prime with the Q7 or Q-S1, isn't that what you want? Fast and wider.
thanks
barondla

---------- Post added 08-06-2014 at 11:54 PM ----------

RICOH IS DOOMED.
thanks
barondla

**monochrome** · 08-07-2014, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by barondla

[/COLOR]RICOH IS DOOMED.
thanks
barondla

That's

RICOH IS DQQMED

devorama · 08-07-2014, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by barondla

The 01 prime with the Q7 or Q-S1, isn't that what you want? Fast and wider.
thanks
barondla

Yeah, that's close. I think that's about 39 or 40mm like. I think if I see a good sale on the Q7, I might jump. But I don't think the Q7 is sold with the 01 prime, right?

MMVIII · 08-07-2014, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by devorama

If only they had announced this with a new wide prime for the Q system, I'd probably buy one. I had the original Q and loved it, but I wanted something like a 35mm FoV equivalent prime to walk around with. I think it's rather odd that we have an ultrawide zoom that fewer people are interested in, yet no wide prime.

Exactly. A wide prime is also on my list.
And scale this design up to K-mount with magnesium body and environmental sealings, maybe add a second dial...

08-06-2014, 04:11 PM	#26
Cambo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,016	Pentax is doomed... DOOMED! Nice little camera, though. Cheers, Cameron

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08-05-2014, 06:37 PM	#16
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by LaurenOE Next stop - pallets in Costco/ASDA/WalMart/SAMs..etc. Everything is about getting a large installed base of Q-mounts (and k-mounts) into the market. If the installed base is large enough there's a market for accessories and licensed third-party products, but until there's a large installed base the List Price of an accessory makes selling it impossible. Recall one objection to the original, magnesium alloy body Q was its price - then Pentax had the brand-killing experience of endless Q/02 kits on NewEgg for $199 (What a steal - I bought 4 of those deals all told and gave them as presents). How many posters on these threads are licking their chops waiting for NewEgg deals on the Q7? I think enthusiasts have to tolerate mass-market iterations of Q-mount and K-mount cameras in order to have what we want in the premium line.

08-05-2014, 07:48 PM	#17
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Originally posted by monochrome Everything is about getting a large installed base of Q-mounts (and k-mounts) into the market. If the installed base is large enough there's a market for accessories and licensed third-party products, but until there's a large installed base the List Price of an accessory makes selling it impossible. Recall one objection to the original, magnesium alloy body Q was its price - then Pentax had the brand-killing experience of endless Q/02 kits on NewEgg for $199 (What a steal - I bought 4 of those deals all told and gave them as presents). How many posters on these threads are licking their chops waiting for NewEgg deals on the Q7? I think enthusiasts have to tolerate mass-market iterations of Q-mount and K-mount cameras in order to have what we want in the premium line. I suppose. When they fire-sale the Q7, I will probably pick one up. I too bought 2 Q cameras when they were on fire sale. Lately I picked up an MX-1 and am enjoying that. As long as they keep putting Pentax on the camera, I'm a sucker. Hmmm...maybe if we see more Ricoh on gear, I can break free of the cycle!!!

08-06-2014, 12:45 AM	#18
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Is this a square crop mode? If so this is VERY nice IMO, even if only JPEG (RAW would be better, still) Quote: JPEG [4:3]L:12M(4000x3000),M:7M(3072x2304),S:3M(1920x1440) [3:2]L:10M(4000x2664),M:6M(3072x2048),S:2M(1920x1280) [16:9]L:9M(4000x2248),M:5M(3072x1728),S:2M(1920x1080) [1:1]L:9M(2992x2992),M:5M(2304x2304),S:2M(1440x1440)

08-06-2014, 02:12 AM	#19
ZombieArmy Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 3,210	Originally posted by monochrome How many posters on these threads are licking their chops waiting for NewEgg deals on the Q7? You got me

08-06-2014, 07:21 AM	#20
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by thibs Is this a square crop mode? If so this is VERY nice IMO, even if only JPEG (RAW would be better, still) Doesn't the Q almost do this anyway? Although if it's an actual JPEG setting versus the Q's effective 'auto-cropping' it could be more convenient I guess.

08-06-2014, 08:17 AM	#21
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	The Q7 manual has all the info you want to know, and I suspect it will see little change for the Q-s1. The amount of control and options they have given to the photographer is astounding, almost like a little Pentax DSLR. It is one of the reasons the Q series is so much fun. http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/q7.pdf

08-06-2014, 10:14 AM	#22
digital029art Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 440	Original Q zoom kit has been on Amaze-on at $199 for at least a couple of years (in black) - still available. It's obvious that Ricoh isn't investing much into the Q line, maybe they're waiting for the (ex Japan) market to warm up? Really it does seem that Ricoh's main modus operandi is "makeover" as evidenced in the Q and DSLR lines for 3 years already. We shall find out in a few weeks, but this pattern does make one wonder what (if any) vision Ricoh has for the Pentax brand!?

08-06-2014, 11:43 AM	#23
6BQ5 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Nevada, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,348	Maybe Ricoh is gearing up for some Q lens releases in September? That would compliment the Q-S1 we're seeing now.

08-06-2014, 11:57 AM	#24
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by 6BQ5 Maybe Ricoh is gearing up for some Q lens releases in September? That would compliment the Q-S1 we're seeing now. Telephoto Macro lens.

08-06-2014, 12:16 PM	#25
devorama Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 638	If only they had announced this with a new wide prime for the Q system, I'd probably buy one. I had the original Q and loved it, but I wanted something like a 35mm FoV equivalent prime to walk around with. I think it's rather odd that we have an ultrawide zoom that fewer people are interested in, yet no wide prime.

08-06-2014, 09:51 PM	#27
barondla Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: midwest, United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,714	Originally posted by devorama If only they had announced this with a new wide prime for the Q system, I'd probably buy one. I had the original Q and loved it, but I wanted something like a 35mm FoV equivalent prime to walk around with. I think it's rather odd that we have an ultrawide zoom that fewer people are interested in, yet no wide prime. The 01 prime with the Q7 or Q-S1, isn't that what you want? Fast and wider. thanks barondla ---------- Post added 08-06-2014 at 11:54 PM ---------- RICOH IS DOOMED. thanks barondla

08-07-2014, 06:49 AM	#28
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by barondla [/COLOR]RICOH IS DOOMED. thanks barondla That's RICOH IS DQQMED

08-07-2014, 07:22 AM	#29
devorama Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 638	Originally posted by barondla The 01 prime with the Q7 or Q-S1, isn't that what you want? Fast and wider. thanks barondla Yeah, that's close. I think that's about 39 or 40mm like. I think if I see a good sale on the Q7, I might jump. But I don't think the Q7 is sold with the 01 prime, right?

08-07-2014, 07:36 AM	#30
MMVIII Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: EU Posts: 1,121	Originally posted by devorama If only they had announced this with a new wide prime for the Q system, I'd probably buy one. I had the original Q and loved it, but I wanted something like a 35mm FoV equivalent prime to walk around with. I think it's rather odd that we have an ultrawide zoom that fewer people are interested in, yet no wide prime. Exactly. A wide prime is also on my list. And scale this design up to K-mount with magnesium body and environmental sealings, maybe add a second dial...