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08-27-2014, 06:59 AM   #271
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I'd like to see Pentax introduce a native M42, FF digital camera.

08-27-2014, 07:15 AM   #272
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QuoteOriginally posted by Fogel70 Quote
It will need a unified way of shifting focus on lenses you pre-set in the App with high precision.
Even if AF speed vary on lenses, the values that is set in the app should give the same focus adjustments on all lenses.
The way I understand it the PDAF measures a distance, by which the camera has to move the focus ring. That should ideally be spot on where focus needs to be. So... would that information perhaps be enough to calculate stuff such as needed for focus stacking? I don't know. At least with screw drive type lenses I imagine the camera knows a bit about what the motor is doing...
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QuoteOriginally posted by luftfluss Quote
I'd like to see Pentax introduce a native M42, FF digital camera.
Right, spend millions on a camera that only two people on the planet want.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
Right, spend millions on a camera that only two people on the planet want.
I bet at least 10 people would buy it!

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It all comes down to name recognition. If Pentax comes out with a bold, unique design, it is labeled as "quirky," "odd" and a "frankencamera". If cannikon comes out with the same thing, then they are being "bold and innovative."
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QuoteOriginally posted by luftfluss Quote
I bet at least 10 people would buy it!
How about I glue a K to 42 converter on a K-mount full frame?
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Not good enough. Splitting the R&D costs over some 10 buyers would make an exquisite (Hassie Lunar-style, with wood replaced by M42 mount) product.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ElJamoquio Quote
How about I glue a K to 42 converter on a K-mount full frame?

Is it digital...



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QuoteOriginally posted by luftfluss Quote
I'd like to see Pentax introduce a native M42, FF digital camera.

Ricoh has (not) responded... you can't have a native M42 digital FF camera from them. They might, however, create an M42 and 3/8" digital FF for 10 USD. With an optional M42 bracket priced at $15,000 GBP.
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An example what could be done with a bit more oomph in the camera and a more advanced/flexible operating system:
The Technology behind Hyperlapse from Instagram - Instagram Engineering

Yes, we have this (unfortunately) in the K-3 etc., but it doesn't work nearly as well, and it can't be set to hyperlapse. It doesn't use the sensors that exist, it doesn't correct for rolling shutter, etc. The electronic shake reduction in my smartphone is vastly superior to what the K-3 offers, let alone the mechanical one the K-5 has (which is absolutely amazing).
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QuoteOriginally posted by pentaxian_tmb Quote
It all comes down to name recognition. If Pentax comes out with a bold, unique design, it is labeled as "quirky," "odd" and a "frankencamera". If cannikon comes out with the same thing, then they are being "bold and innovative."
When the Q began picking up in the home market of Japan, Nikon followed with the 1 (CX format, they say) and later Canon, with the EOS-M. It's hard to say that those two were in response against already-existing 1"-sensor cameras or the m4/3 system of other players, because they could've done so long ago.

A bigger and more obvious follow-me example was when Pentax came out with the myriad color combo's for the K-x and K-r. All of a sudden (and in small varieties) Canon and Nikon came out with colored bodies too (for the 1100D, 1200D, D3100, D3200, and 100D/SL1)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Alizarine Quote
When the Q began picking up in the home market of Japan, Nikon followed with the 1 (CX format, they say) and later Canon, with the EOS-M. It's hard to say that those two were in response against already-existing 1"-sensor cameras or the m4/3 system of other players, because they could've done so long ago.

A bigger and more obvious follow-me example was when Pentax came out with the myriad color combo's for the K-x and K-r. All of a sudden (and in small varieties) Canon and Nikon came out with colored bodies too (for the 1100D, 1200D, D3100, D3200, and 100D/SL1)
There was also the Nikon D7000 follow-on to the K7, K5 design. Even as far as better use of older lenses and WR. But then Pentax adopted the 2 SD card slots of the 7000/7100 after Nikon did. And the K01 was probably a response to Sony's early Nex designs, and in some ways better. All the Nex cameras have a somewhat fragile tripod mount, compared to what i think the K01 has. And the Nex shutters are noisy as well compared to the K5 series.

Fuji's XTi is WR and they are going to issue some WR zooms this year. So they are all watching what each other do, perhaps Nikon and Canon, with their large base, can afford to sit back and watch the smaller companies try more radical designs. Then adopt or not depending on the success.
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I think there is a benefit to being conservative, the design choises are a bit hit and miss, and I feel Pentax would probably be wise to invest in better software engineers. Other then that, I think they should just continue to make top notch aps-c cameras and lenses for some time to come.
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Pentax is known for trying various design choices. The ME series, the SF cameras, MZ-S... they don't get completely crazy over it (like the "it doesn't have to work so we can draw anything we want" design studies we're seeing on the Internet), but they're not afraid of trying new things either.
And that's fine. I would hate to live in a world where half of the cameras would be shapeless blobs, and the other half, '30s rangefinder wannabees.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
Pentax is known for trying various design choices. The ME series, the SF cameras, MZ-S... they don't get completely crazy over it
The Z/PZ series was kinda late 80s / early 90s space alien...even more so than the SF series.

The MZ/ZX series was more of a return to angular slr design, until the MZ-S.
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