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08-25-2014, 08:12 AM   #691
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
1. I don't like guessing and I have no data on which to make a marginally accurate evaluation; but I'd guess the price difference would be greater than that between the K-50 and K-500.
2. But we know that it's a DSLR, i.e. it has an optical (pentaprism) viewfinder. This is quite obvious in the leaked images:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/content/uploads/files/1/p1344/ks1_pentax4.png
Instead of a shutter (or sensor, if its exposed), we're seeing the standard SLR mirror reflecting the matte screen...

Some people should try to design a working model of this... dream - (almost) the smallest DSLR but with a modular design. Sliding in a stabilized sensor module, on a 120 x 92.5 x 69.5mm body?
Well, with respect to 1. you can easily estimate what additional parts you would need to make a modular cam from let's say a K-x (or whatever). You would need two separate frames, one for the inner cam, one for the outer parts. You would need a mechanical attachment mechanism where the two frames have contact (front of the inner cam, back of the K-mont part). Also you would need limiting walls, one behind the sensor in the inner cam and one limiting the back screen towards the inner cam. The same at the front. Then we would need electronic contacts between the outer parts and the inner cam. This doesn't sound overly complicated. and cannot cost much, considering that you can get a full K-50 for 400 to 500 US$. I do not think this would make the costs leave the entry level sector.
2. Yes, you are right. This looks like the matte screen reflection in the mirror. This seems to contradict modularity - at least of the kind I imagined, which would work so much better with a mirrorless design. Of course, it could be that Uluru is right and just the sensor could be exchanged together with the grip while the rest of the cam, including the mirror box would remain. Yet, I think the main reason for a modular concept would be to allow for a new fully electronic mount while at the same keeping the K-mount for the use of (then) legacy K-mount lenses.

That said, I cannot believe that the gap is nothing but a design feature. Pentax cams have always been designed very functionally and ergonomic (maybe except for the K-01 ;-) ), but this gap would be nothing but a very soon to become ugly dust collector, if it had no other purpose. And, technically speaking, usually it is more difficult to build camera (or other) frames/shells from more parts than from fewer (ask Apple about their notebooks).

Well, the question mark remains...

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
The gap....The main thing is the gap. The GAP is the most important detail in new PENTAX. Bravo!
After this is released, I can't imagine ever buying a gapless camera again.
08-25-2014, 09:49 AM   #693
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QuoteOriginally posted by johnmflores Quote
Not likely a slide-out considering the complexity and dust issues. I wouldn't be surprised though if there is a mirrorless variant based on the same basic design.

K-S1 = SLR
K-M1 = Mirrorless

???
No, the mirrorless is the KF-U2.
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QuoteOriginally posted by IchabodCrane Quote
3) The photos are fake
Quite possible. Did anyone notice that the exposure comp button on the white one is now flat (i.e. printed on and not a button)?

My bad...cheesy monitor...


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If this camera is all we get at Photokina for the K-mount (as Photorumors is suggesting), this forum is going to implode.
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QuoteOriginally posted by NickLarsson Quote
I think another MILC model with the same body but without the pentaprism (K-M1) is more plausible than a modular model.

In any case, the new design is not only cosmetics but also internal (we can see the HDMI output on the right side, which is unusual), which means it's probably the new base for future models as well.
K-01 has hdmi output on the rightside.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
If this camera is all we get at Photokina for the K-mount (as Photorumors is suggesting), this forum is going to implode.
Will there be more traffic, or less? I think less.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
If this camera is all we get at Photokina for the K-mount (as Photorumors is suggesting), this forum is going to implode.
And they also said this... "It seems that the Pentax full frame DSLR is dead"

Read more on PhotoRumors.com: Photo Rumors


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QuoteOriginally posted by jcdoss Quote
And they also said this... "It seems that the Pentax full frame DSLR is dead" Read more on PhotoRumors.com: Photo Rumors
They actually said: For now there are rumors only for a new Pentax K-S1 camera. It seems that the Pentax full frame DSLR is dead - I have not seen any rumors for months.

Since they make their money by spreading rumors I can see why they are miffed about there not being any rumors.
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QuoteOriginally posted by johnmflores Quote
The "success" of the Ricoh GXR system should put any notion of modularity to bed. Or in the grave.
I don't think so but never on that kind of camera, specially low cost.
MF Digital backs and cameras are an example of modularity.
They have their use but it's not as if their were priced comparatively with conventional approaches (645D/Z).

Modular = costly. Simple.

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They actually said: For now there are rumors only for a new Pentax K-S1 camera. It seems that the Pentax full frame DSLR is dead - I have not seen any rumors for months.

Since they make their money by spreading rumors I can see why they are miffed about there not being any rumors.
Yep the rumors that they got no newer rumors is took as a rumor that the full frame is a rumor.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
If this camera is all we get at Photokina for the K-mount (as Photorumors is suggesting), this forum is going to implode.
It always implodes regardless of what Pentax does anyway.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ruggiex Quote
It always implodes regardless of what Pentax does anyway.
It doesn't when Pentax does nothing.
Pentax should rest, we would too.
Less FUD spread as well.
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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
Yep the rumors that they got no newer rumors is took as a rumor that the full frame is a rumor.
Personally I find the LACK of rumors to be a stronger point in favor of something than if there are rumors. Ricoh seems to be extremely good at controlling information. Nothing about the K-S1 until just last week. Leaked, I am sure, by Ricoh marketing precisely on time. Nothing on the Q-S1 until the Ricoh announcement. If it were not for the occasional rumor-bomb from Asahiman we would have nothing at all........................
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This thread makes me laugh every day!
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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
It doesn't when Pentax does nothing.
Pentax should rest, we would too.
Less FUD spread as well.
Oh I'm sure we are very capable of creating implosion based on no announcement because everyone else is leaving Pentax behind in the dust.
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