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08-28-2014, 06:10 AM   #991
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QuoteOriginally posted by robthebloke Quote
It's on sale now for 599 at srs (includes kit lens, flu card, and 32gb SD card)
The launch price of K30 body was 798 Euros, whereas the the launch price of the K50 body was 649 Euros in my part of the world, and it appears that 649 Euros is going to be the launch price of the K-S1 body as well.

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QuoteOriginally posted by DominicVII Quote
The camera looks sufficiently ergonomic; the half a dozen people whom I have seen hold this camera in various videos seem to be able to do so with considerable ease. This camera is ideal for people who prefer a DSLR, and who would like it to be as lightweight as possible: I would definitely be interested in purchasing this camera.

How do you know the camera is priced higher than the K50, considering that it is yet to become available for sale? Pentax's recommended price for both cameras with kit lens is identical: 699 Euros. That the current price of a body that has been in circulation for some time is lower is hardly anything unusual: why pay 699 Euros for X-E2 when the X-E1 can be purchased for 349 Euros or less?

The K-S1 is an excellent camera with plenty of firepower in a small package. It is smaller than some high end micro four thirds bodies and it is sure to outperform larger and far more expensive DSLRs. In other words, this is a camera with lots of potential.

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Here's a K-S1 infomercial:

PENTAX K-S1 Movie_en - YouTube

I'm only quoting DPREVIEW and have no experience myself.
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QuoteOriginally posted by chaza01 Quote
I'm only quoting DPREVIEW and have no experience myself.
You made it clear long ago that you don't like the camera.
08-28-2014, 06:17 AM   #994
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QuoteOriginally posted by luftfluss Quote
I don't think I'm throwing K-mount under the bus, simply pointing out that keeping K-mount means keeping the (relative) bulk. Fortunately, Pentax has some lovely small lenses...
Yes and indirectly pointing out that Nikon is keeping even more bulk. Not sure what Canon's excuse is.


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QuoteOriginally posted by DominicVII Quote
You made it clear long ago that you don't like the camera.
Yes, I don't warm to it. We'll see how it sells though.

Here is the final thoughts on the K-S1 from Dpreview:
'Final Thoughts
While the somewhat bizarre LEDs on the K-S1's front grip will likely garner the most attention, under the hood it seems like a quite capable DSLR. On the spec side, you get a 20MP APS-C CMOS sensor, a selectable AA filter, built-in image stabilization, and a max ISO of 102,400. It's also capable of shooting continuously at 5.4 fps. And, as usual, it's packed with nearly every feature imaginable.

The specs of the camera are more impressive than the ergonomics. We like the large optical viewfinder and backlit mode dial, though the latter is rough on your thumb. The four-way controller is poorly designed, and the grip is small and slippery. The LED lights on the grip are more style than substance, but at least you can turn them off.

The biggest issue we have with the K-S1 is figuring out its target audience. Its design (including those LEDs) makes it stand out in the crowd, but the biggest selling points should be what's inside. The K-S1's closest competitors are the Canon SL1 (EOS 100D) and Nikon D3300, both of which have lower MSRPs (not to mention street prices) and are equally capable. An even bigger question is why one would buy the K-S1 when Pentax's own K-50 is weather-sealed and less expensive.'


It is obviously a preview and their opinion could change with more time.
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What ? No 24MP , what the flying dutchman ?
And whats with the LED lights , is the supplied battery so large Ricoh has decided there is power to spare for Bling ?
I hope there is a option in the menu to disable such BLING !
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personally, I think it is overpriced. By a third.
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The power consumption of LEDs is negligible. Ever use one of those LED flashlights that can stay on for days on a single AA battery? I'd be surprised if they drew even enough to reduce the life of the battery one shot per charge cycle.

Also, it is already confirmed the lights can be turned off (per the Ricoh USA video seen yesterday).

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Dont like :

What ? No 24MP , what the flying dutchman ?
And whats with the LED lights , is the supplied battery so large Ricoh has decided there is power to spare for Bling ?
I hope there is a option in the menu to disable such BLING !


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QuoteOriginally posted by chaza01 Quote
Yes, I don't warm to it. We'll see how it sells though.

Here is the final thoughts on the K-S1 from Dpreview:
'Final Thoughts
While the somewhat bizarre LEDs on the K-S1's front grip will likely garner the most attention, under the hood it seems like a quite capable DSLR. On the spec side, you get a 20MP APS-C CMOS sensor, a selectable AA filter, built-in image stabilization, and a max ISO of 102,400. It's also capable of shooting continuously at 5.4 fps. And, as usual, it's packed with nearly every feature imaginable.

The specs of the camera are more impressive than the ergonomics. We like the large optical viewfinder and backlit mode dial, though the latter is rough on your thumb. The four-way controller is poorly designed, and the grip is small and slippery. The LED lights on the grip are more style than substance, but at least you can turn them off.

The biggest issue we have with the K-S1 is figuring out its target audience. Its design (including those LEDs) makes it stand out in the crowd, but the biggest selling points should be what's inside. The K-S1's closest competitors are the Canon SL1 (EOS 100D) and Nikon D3300, both of which have lower MSRPs (not to mention street prices) and are equally capable. An even bigger question is why one would buy the K-S1 when Pentax's own K-50 is weather-sealed and less expensive.'


It is obviously a preview and their opinion could change with more time.
Since when DPR has any sort of objectivity ?
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One is paying for the 100% pentapism and AA simulator, it seems.

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personally, I think it is overpriced. By a third.
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The power consumption of LEDs is negligible. Ever use one of those LED flashlights that can stay on for days on a single AA battery? I'd be surprised if they drew even enough to reduce the life of the battery one shot per charge cycle.

Also, it is already confirmed the lights can be turned off (per the Ricoh USA video seen yesterday).

Well, the flash eats a lot more. It can be deactivated and nobody yells at the flash being there. Ah, humans...
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QuoteOriginally posted by JimmyDranox Quote
I doubt that this will be the only news from Ricoh at Photokina. Let's remember that two new lenses are on the road maps. and is still time for another camera leaks and announcement. Hopefully FF....

FF? I think we never see Ricoh FF.
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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
Since when DPR has any sort of objectivity ?
Yeah all I am doing is sharing one of the few sites who so far have an opinion on it. This is just a single preview and without corroboration from multiple sites any thoughts at this stage from dpreview should be taken with this in mind.

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FF? I think we never see Ricoh FF.
We'll see. But in any case, I prefer a Q + APS + 645 Pentax/Ricoh than a dead FF Pentax.
Of course since we know nothing internal, we're just guessing but this is the place isn't it ?
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Since when DPR has any sort of objectivity ?
Makes me wonder why there was so much angst over DPR taking forever to put out their K-3 review. Frankly, I like their reviews because they tell us what it is they don't like about a camera. That's relevant info of the type other reviewers often shy away from.
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