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09-02-2014, 09:57 PM   #1396
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Many who require tip screens have not tried viewing the screen at 160 and seeing that it can work most of the time. I know it surprised me! I like the idea of one but its absence will not itself knock a camera off my list. Smaller and lighter is good for me in nearly every circumstance, connectivity not so much. I often feel too connected already...

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09-02-2014, 10:35 PM   #1397
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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
It appears that the Target market is for white K-50s.


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I'm not hoping it won't sell. In fact I'm hoping I'm dead wrong. Pentax needs the sales, but I will be totally surprised if it does and I stand by that statement. It's a very strange looking camera. People aren't into buying as many cameras as it is, and they want people to accept that and embrace it? I just don't see the logic in that.

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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Very interesting idea, very interesting indeed.


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Yep...you nailed it.


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The point is very well made, well made indeed


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She just bought her K-30 (red metallic), does that count?


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Heck yeah it does! Grin. Narrow minded? ME? You're talking to a professional who defiantly shoots with a ruby red camera complete with matching ruby bling, on a black and white wicked witch of the east strap. I keep my gear in a ruby slippers/WWE striped bag combo and cheerfully bling my M43 cameras with flipping Swarovsky crystals. I'd say I'm WAY more open than most people around here to the idea of a non-black, non-traditionally designed camera. I just happen to think that some of the more recent cams like the K-01 and now this one are a bit chancy in terms of design and sales potential. The K-01 didn't exactly sell like crazy, though it did better than some initally thought it would once the price dropped a lot. Who knows? It could be a hit instead of a dud, but we'll just have to see, won't we?

This is Ruby, so far. I'm definitely not finished yet. This is not how I meant to do this, present Ruby by taking crappy pics in no light at 3 AM but whatever. :P I think I am going to have to work on the doodads. They're just not as good as the ones I used on my E-PL1. They keep falling off and rearranging themselves. I was having problems keeping them on just to take these few lousy pics.The self stick adhesive that came on them just isn't very good. I was trying not to use epoxy or glue on the K-30. I wanted to be able to remove it when and if I wished, but I think I'm going to have to try some or maybe at least put some bits of double stick tape under all of it.

I like the color of these despite the fact that they are just resin but I'm thinking I may just grab some more Swarovsky crystals in either Vitrail or Volcano and do it up properly. It's a very similar look only the quality is a lot better. Glass is so much nicer than resin. But this is how I want to do it. I want to bling mainly just on the buttons and a little on the top and then just do the lens caps. I originally was going to use the red snake strap and still might sometimes but that black and white one it's awesome, very Oz, and will be my main strap for it I think.

Note, I updated the caps just now to make them look a bit more ruby slipper-ish. I still have to clean them up a bit and seal them fully but essentially I'm done. I still have to figure out what to use to put the doodads on the buttons securely. I used Gorilla glue on the caps but that's not something I'd want on my camera buttons. It's not too great for this actually. I was less than impressed. It was supposed to dry clear but it dried white and somewhat puffy. Next time I'm going with the Gem Tac stuff instead...
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09-03-2014, 02:58 AM   #1399
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QuoteOriginally posted by bobell69 Quote
One of the Pentax Promos indicated that the new camera has excellent dynamic range. It will be interesting to see how the dynamic range on the K-S1 compares to the K5. If there is a marked improvement, then I think we will see a different side to this camera.
I don't expect any improvement on this compared to the K-01/K-30/K-50 so the K-5 Original will keep this spot. I do wonder how the 645Z will test.

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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
It appears that the Target market is for white K-50s.


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Excellent, magkelly !
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Anyone knows anything specific about the K-S1 AF system? Is it same as in K5-II (SAFOX 10) or is it a K-3 derivative (SAFOX 11 derivative)?
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Anyone knows anything specific about the K-S1 AF system? Is it same as in K5-II (SAFOX 10) or is it a K-3 derivative (SAFOX 11 derivative)?
TTL: phase-matching autofocus, SAFOX IX i+, 11 point (9 cross type focus points in the center)

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QuoteOriginally posted by Jean Poitiers Quote
Excellent, magkelly !
Thanks, I didn't think anyone on here would like it. I admit I'm probably going overboard but 90% of my work is little kids who can and do immediately relate to Oz/Wicked themed anything and women who actually love the bling. People may likely forget my face, but they are not likely to forget an Oz themed business or a ruby shoes themed camera. I've already had several positive comments on the color of my K-30 and the whole Oz/Wicked strap and bag thing. I'm just adding a little bit of sparkle to that. I can't very well have an infamous ruby slippers camera sans some glitter and a few fancy gems...
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QuoteOriginally posted by ilfiniol Quote
TTL: phase-matching autofocus, SAFOX IX i+, 11 point (9 cross type focus points in the center)
So even with this new K-S1 they still "haven't got a chance" to scale down the K-3's AF into new generation bodies?
Hm, something tells me K-S1 is not the only news for the Photokina ...

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QuoteOriginally posted by magkelly Quote
Thanks, I didn't think anyone on here would like it. I admit I'm probably going overboard but 90% of my work is little kids who can and do immediately relate to Oz/Wicked themed anything and women who actually love the bling. People may likely forget my face, but they are not likely to forget an Oz themed business or a ruby shoes themed camera. I've already had several positive comments on the color of my K-30 and the whole Oz/Wicked strap and bag thing. I'm just adding a little bit of sparkle to that. I can't very well have an infamous ruby slippers camera sans some glitter and a few fancy gems...
I don't get it. On one hand you're completely dismissing the K-S1, even stating they won't sell 1/20th of the first month's production, and on the other hand, you're doing... that.

QuoteOriginally posted by Uluru Quote
So even with this new K-S1 they still "haven't got a chance" to scale down the K-3's AF into new generation bodies?
Hm, something tells me K-S1 is not the only news for the Photokina ...
Perhaps the K-3's AF is reserved for higher end cameras (for now).
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So even with this new K-S1 they still "haven't got a chance" to scale down the K-3's AF into new generation bodies?
Hm, something tells me K-S1 is not the only news for the Photokina ...
Perhaps the K-S1 is Ricoh's response to scaling down the K3's tech into new-generation bodies and represents Ricoh's offer at the D5300 level? Their marketing materials send that message, The season of strange ducks is upon us. Take cover. Did you know that an Anatidaephobic is someone who has a morbid fear of being watched by a duck? I guess they are not the target market here, at least not the ones who are into selfies.


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QuoteOriginally posted by mecrox Quote
Perhaps the K-S1 is Ricoh's response to scaling down the K3's tech into new-generation bodies and represents Ricoh's offer at the D5300 level? Their marketing materials send that message, The season of strange ducks is upon us. Take cover. Did you know that an Anatidaephobic is someone who has a morbid fear of being watched by a duck? I guess they are not the target market here, at least not the ones who are into selfies.


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This isn't in any of the tradtitional tiers but is marketed towards the younger generations who are new to SLR photography. Even though it has mid-tier specifications it isn't meant to be the tradtiional mid-tier replacement. It is in it's own tier/bracket off from the traditional tiers.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
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Perhaps the K-3's AF is reserved for higher end cameras (for now).
It seems K-S1 has an old AF system still in it. Now, with scaling down of the K-3 AF system, it is to be expected that a new SAFOX name could be reserved. Better AF sensors, better responsiveness, etc. And if I remember correctly, something along those lines of scaling down and adopting K-3 tech widely was their goal (was it mentioned during the CP+ 2014 interview?)

For that reason I reasonably suspect we can still see something new this year.
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Since the K-S1 was already announced, until 16 September there is time for another camera; but we're running out of time. We'll see.

My point is - scaling down high-end technology might occur only after they'll develop replacements for the higher end products. I.e. no K-3's AF in lower end bodies until there'll be a "K-3MkII" with an even better AF. The other brands are doing this to differentiate between products.
The K-3's module might also be a bit more expensive.
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