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09-04-2014, 01:58 PM   #1471
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QuoteOriginally posted by shaX 07 Quote
I'd like to propose that nobody continue to claim to know who the K-S1 is designed for, and should generally accept that the Pentax K-S1 target audience is "Those of whom want to take photographs".


I know what you mean, but those are definitely not utilitarian! Nor are those color collections an afterthought, but a very deliberate choice.

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QuoteOriginally posted by shaX 07 Quote
I'd like to propose that nobody continue to claim to know who the K-S1 is designed for, and should generally accept that the Pentax K-S1 target audience is "Those of whom want to take photographs".


LOL!

But I know exactly who the K-S1 is designed for - people that are bored of black cameras. Simple as that!
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I just can't afford to go with the white one (I'm going to dub it the 'Swan' as in 'K-ess-wan') - it requires a set of silver Limiteds, and I am not starting over buying Limiteds!
I thought the black DA 35 2.4 "Plastic Fantastic" looked great on the white K-S1!

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LOL!

But I know exactly who the K-S1 is designed for - people that are bored of black cameras. Simple as that!
You mean people bored with black blobs

I like the straight lines of the K-S1, product design is moving away from the curves now... I hope the camera does really well
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QuoteOriginally posted by johnmflores Quote
LOL!

But I know exactly who the K-S1 is designed for - people that are bored of black cameras. Simple as that!
Then why did they bother making a black one?

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Then why did they bother making a black one?
False dilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just because some are bored of black cameras, doesn't mean everybody is
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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
False dilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just because some are bored of black cameras, doesn't mean everybody is
Not everything posted here is meant to be serious.
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It is a rule of life that we lose things because were were not careful where we put them. Copy the files into the catalog file structure at import directly from the SD card and have them sorted into folders by capture date. Assign keywords at import time. Add additional keywords after import and assign to new or existing collections as needed. If you don't have time to do it properly the most recent import is available until overwritten. You may also stash references in the "temporary collection" until you have finished with the categorization.


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(Is this far enough off-topic?)

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You mean sort of like the first wave of digital cameras? When I bought my Canon G2 back in the Dark Ages, RAW capabilities were a relatively rare value-added feature.

As for 35mm film with Polaroid capabilities ==> no need for digital...You totally lost me. The power of digital is that the captures have almost no physical reality, that and the immediate gratification of rear LCD viewing. People loved their consumer Polaroids cameras, but hated the bulk of the capture media and the amount of trash associated with the culls and the relative expense per image. One hour minilabs provided very quick access to finished prints for 35mm users, but even then there was the matter of boxes full of snapshots and hard-to-keep-track-of negatives. Digital photography was a Godsend to the snapshot photographer.

Direct-to-the-cloud image capture is an intriguing concept whose time may very well have come. It relieves the casual user of the tedium of maintaining the hardware needed for image storage. The ongoing expense for that storage and the bandwidth costs for viewing/working with the images may get a bit old, but if nobody makes money, it is a cinch that nothing will ever happen.

Coming back to the K-S1, a single-step wireless solution through a smartphone/tablet proxy would be a nice feature. In the meantime, however, simply mounting the SD card filesystem onto a compatible tablet or phone to publish to the cloud can accomplish much the same thing. Perhaps they may even find a way to do it easily without a wire


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I've got 70,000 or so photo's in my lightroom catalog, I've probably deleted 10x as many. I'm 36 and actually shot film when I was in grade school (learned black and white photo processing) and high school. My first digital was a 1mp Olympus point and shoot. I used a Nikon SLR (still have the SLR) and a point and shoot 35mm for film. With film you were pretty careful when you took a photo being fully aware of the costs. Digital you can just go crazy and try anything you like. It takes a while to wear out a shutter.

If that had been real film:

1. No way I could have afforded that, I took 3000 photo's on a 10 day trip to Italy alone, image the film cost!
2. I would need a building to store them. I've got 13 years of digital backed up across 3 external drives that are each about the size of a wallet, can't beat that!

RAW still bests jpeg because it contains more data. It's the same dilema with lossless vs mp3 for audio. The jpeg was created as a compression tool and became popular. Some jpeg engines are that good, I use jpeg in my fuji but raw's for the pentax.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
I thought the black DA 35 2.4 "Plastic Fantastic" looked great on the white K-S1!
Isn't that the "Cotton Beige"? Even though they are both pale, I think black lenses look better on the beige than the all-white.

(And yes, I know exactly how silly this conversation sounds, especially to those that don't like non-black cameras. Would you like to see my K-01 LensPorn collection? )

(...and the BIG question: which K-S1 will look best with classic CZJ Zebras? )

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QuoteOriginally posted by LeeRunge Quote
I've got 70,000 or so photo's in my lightroom catalog, I've probably deleted 10x as many. I'm 36 and actually shot film when I was in grade school (learned black and white photo processing) and high school. My first digital was a 1mp Olympus point and shoot. I used a Nikon SLR (still have the SLR) and a point and shoot 35mm for film. With film you were pretty careful when you took a photo being fully aware of the costs. Digital you can just go crazy and try anything you like. It takes a while to wear out a shutter.

If that had been real film:

1. No way I could have afforded that, I took 3000 photo's on a 10 day trip to Italy alone, image the film cost!
2. I would need a building to store them. I've got 13 years of digital backed up across 3 external drives that are each about the size of a wallet, can't beat that!

RAW still bests jpeg because it contains more data. It's the same dilema with lossless vs mp3 for audio. The jpeg was created as a compression tool and became popular. Some jpeg engines are that good, I use jpeg in my fuji but raw's for the pentax.
So when are you ever going to find time to look at them again?
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So when are you ever going to find time to look at them again?
Would be cool to make a hyper lapse of them all.
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Would be cool to make a hyper lapse of them all.
It's interesting to watch yourself grow over the years with photography. I didn't read or take anything seriously about composition or really take interest in anything buy snapshots until about 4 years ago. It's been a drastic change in photo quality since then. I actually keep far less today then I did prior to using an actual workflow.

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I actually keep far less today then I did prior to using an actual workflow.
Truth there. Snapshots just seem to accumulate and never get managed. But with a serious workflow you shoot less, keep less and can actually find the ones you kept. I won't say I am back to film shooting rate, but instead of firing off 5 or 10 frames I stop, think and select the 2 or 3 shots I would actually like to keep.
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My wife can locate within 30 minutes any negative or print from the last 50 years of her life. She maintains a mental catalog.

I can't locate an image file from the last 50 days. I really get into trouble when I can guess about when it was taken so I can folder_date, but which IMGP file was created by which camera? I can have IMGP_xxxx 6 times, as long as it stays under the highest number with my K-3
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I change my "IMGP" to something else. XX12 for 2012, XX13 for 2013, XX14 for 2014. XX can change per camera. Easy.

With the Lightroom metadata sorter, though, it's even easier. Though for some reason it didn't recognize the 18-135... perhaps I didn't have the right firmware on the K-5 at the time?
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Truth there. Snapshots just seem to accumulate and never get managed. But with a serious workflow you shoot less, keep less and can actually find the ones you kept. I won't say I am back to film shooting rate, but instead of firing off 5 or 10 frames I stop, think and select the 2 or 3 shots I would actually like to keep.
Funny, I did the opposite. I mostly shoot film nowadays. 12 days in Ireland (including 'lost' ones for plane/buses etc.) and only 7 films (36 each of course).
To be honest I think the first one was already in the SuperA so 6.5 films.

I only used A50/1.7 and K30/2.8 (almost always), a couple Sigma 18/3.5 and a couple with M135/3.5.
But with my DSLR I shoot DA16-45 and 50-135 or 50-200 (depending on weigh/size issues).
Dunno why always prime on one, always zooms on the other. Just happens like that.
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