Pentax K-S1!

Wired · 08-21-2014, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by JinDesu

I doubt it'll have good video codec if they didn't get that right with the k-3 and the 645Z (I think it was hinted that the latest Prime processor is the issue). That being said, if it comes in at a very low price, k-500 price, and it is packed with features - it should be a winner in my book. That white one is gorgeous. I might just sell my k-01 to get this.

yea thats what I'm worried about too. The codec is the biggest drawback of the K3 in my opinion from becoming a great video machine. The handling characteristics while hand holding rig-free with the K3 is much better than my D800. Especially when using manual focus with a lens like the FA31. It's too bad the video codec is what it is.

JPT · 08-21-2014, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by bossa

The view from the top is interesting as it gives an even greater impression that the camera is modular and made up of two major components - the mount/prism/display "module" with a grip module slid in-between. As I said earlier today, this camera hints at a possible future direction via a modular camera and/or a mirrorless made from the thin grip that looks like it slides into the other section. Either way, and if nothing else, this stylistic development will allow acceptance of a mirrorless camera that looks like it belongs in the product line.

I also like the fact that the right side (front view) is almost gone and that all the controls are moved to the right hand.

I quite like this camera so far.

It depends what you mean by modular. Modular for whom? I doubt very much that the user will be able to pull off the mirror assembly to convert the camera from DSLR to mirrorless.

But it strikes me that it might be modular from the manufacturer's point of view, allowing them to easily develop DSLRs and mirrorless cameras on the same platform - similar to the way car manufacturers share huge amounts of development cost between different models by basing them on the same platform. I can almost imagine Ricoh flipping a switch on the production line and having a very similar looking mirrorless model come out at the other end.

For now, I'm just looking forward to seeing the rest of the specs and the price.

**THoog** · 08-21-2014, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by JinDesu

I might just sell my k-01 to get this.

Blasphemy!

Tho' seriously, the more I look at it, the more I think it's the long-lost K-02 with an OVF. It's smaller in exactly the right places for a K-01 with the D-Li109.

johnmflores · 08-21-2014, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by JPT

I'm going to sit my K-01 down at the dining table, and . . .
"I'm sorry, K-01. There's no easy way to say this, but . . ."

Try the 'ole "it's not you, it's me." Let us know how it goes.

Kenn100D · 08-21-2014, 08:57 AM

Here's a post from Pentax Malta.

Caat · 08-21-2014, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Kenn100D

Here's a post from Pentax Malta.

OK...

Hopefully this extends beyond the design and slimmer "selfie-friendly" grip to include features like built in WiFi.

mmichalak · 08-21-2014, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by JPT

It depends what you mean by modular. Modular for whom? I doubt very much that the user will be able to pull off the mirror assembly to convert the camera from DSLR to mirrorless.

But it strikes me that it might be modular from the manufacturer's point of view, allowing them to easily develop DSLRs and mirrorless cameras on the same platform - similar to the way car manufacturers share huge amounts of development cost between different models by basing them on the same platform. I can almost imagine Ricoh flipping a switch on the production line and having a very similar looking mirrorless model come out at the other end.

For now, I'm just looking forward to seeing the rest of the specs and the price.

Originally posted by JPT

But it strikes me that it might be modular from the manufacturer's point of view, allowing them to easily develop DSLRs and mirrorless cameras on the same platform

Exactly my thoughts, it's what I posted on the other thread "Pentax K-S1 = a new GR/GXR + an adapter?"..

This would allow them for example to offer a version without the OVF, or to offer a mirrorless option.... or one trillion combinations of colours

**Belnan** · 08-21-2014, 09:08 AM

BTW. I rumored about a 20 mp dslr camera back in April 2013. who new it would take this long to come to fruition? Not sure about the looks but let see what it can do.

It may have a few surprises for us.

stevebrot · 08-21-2014, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by JimmyDranox

I think this camera will be a big success for Pentax, specially for young generation and women.

That would be children and women (people with small hands).

Steve

---------- Post added 08-21-14 at 09:44 AM ----------

Originally posted by WillWeaverRVA

It does have a mirror. Lots of pictures of DSLRs are taken with the mirror up to show off the sensor.

The mirror is obviously down. The view shows a mirror box that is essentially the same as in other current Pentax dSLRs.

Steve

---------- Post added 08-21-14 at 09:48 AM ----------

Originally posted by Kenn100D

Here's a post from Pentax Malta.

There is a Pentax Malta?

Steve

**Belnan** · 08-21-2014, 09:49 AM

Touch Screen and an intuitive interface including connectivity for camera phone users might be a good selling point for newbies.

JinDesu · 08-21-2014, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by THoog

Blasphemy!

Tho' seriously, the more I look at it, the more I think it's the long-lost K-02 with an OVF. It's smaller in exactly the right places for a K-01 with the D-Li109.

Well depending on the price, I might get it as an addition and not a replacement. I love my k-01, but the white K-S1 is just beautiful to me. My old k-x was white too...

froeschle · 08-21-2014, 09:51 AM

Pentax K-L1 - It's what's inside that counts!

stevebrot · 08-21-2014, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

There is a Pentax Malta?

Oh...I see. Pentax Malta is a FB page for the Pentax/Ricoh dealer on the small island nation.

Steve

**boriscleto** · 08-21-2014, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by mmichalak

Exactly my thoughts, it's what I posted on the other thread "Pentax K-S1 = a new GR/GXR + an adapter?"..

This would allow them for example to offer a version without the OVF, or to offer a mirrorless option.... or one trillion combinations of colours

Only if the mirrorless module is called the KF-U2.

Fogel70 · 08-21-2014, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

That would be children and women (people with small hands).

Steve

I have large hands, but have used many camera the last 30 years with smaller grip than on K-S1 without any problem.
Many of these cameras haven't had a protruding grip at all.

I might get K-S1 just because it looks like a fun camera to use, and I also want encourage Ricoh/Pentax for trying to create something unique.

---------- Post added 21-08-14 at 19:07 ----------

Originally posted by froeschle

Pentax K-L1 - It's what's inside that counts!

That would be K-XL1 (K-S1, K-M1 and K-L1 is all APS-C cameras).

08-21-2014, 08:57 AM	#425
Kenn100D Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paranaque City, Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 697	Probably the K-S1 Here's a post from Pentax Malta. Attached Images

08-21-2014, 09:51 AM	#432
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552	Pentax K-L1 - It's what's inside that counts! Attached Images

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08-21-2014, 08:21 AM	#421
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	Originally posted by JinDesu I doubt it'll have good video codec if they didn't get that right with the k-3 and the 645Z (I think it was hinted that the latest Prime processor is the issue). That being said, if it comes in at a very low price, k-500 price, and it is packed with features - it should be a winner in my book. That white one is gorgeous. I might just sell my k-01 to get this. yea thats what I'm worried about too. The codec is the biggest drawback of the K3 in my opinion from becoming a great video machine. The handling characteristics while hand holding rig-free with the K3 is much better than my D800. Especially when using manual focus with a lens like the FA31. It's too bad the video codec is what it is.

08-21-2014, 08:23 AM	#422
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821 Original Poster	Originally posted by bossa The view from the top is interesting as it gives an even greater impression that the camera is modular and made up of two major components - the mount/prism/display "module" with a grip module slid in-between. As I said earlier today, this camera hints at a possible future direction via a modular camera and/or a mirrorless made from the thin grip that looks like it slides into the other section. Either way, and if nothing else, this stylistic development will allow acceptance of a mirrorless camera that looks like it belongs in the product line. I also like the fact that the right side (front view) is almost gone and that all the controls are moved to the right hand. I quite like this camera so far. It depends what you mean by modular. Modular for whom? I doubt very much that the user will be able to pull off the mirror assembly to convert the camera from DSLR to mirrorless. But it strikes me that it might be modular from the manufacturer's point of view, allowing them to easily develop DSLRs and mirrorless cameras on the same platform - similar to the way car manufacturers share huge amounts of development cost between different models by basing them on the same platform. I can almost imagine Ricoh flipping a switch on the production line and having a very similar looking mirrorless model come out at the other end. For now, I'm just looking forward to seeing the rest of the specs and the price.

08-21-2014, 08:48 AM	#423
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by JinDesu I might just sell my k-01 to get this. Blasphemy! Tho' seriously, the more I look at it, the more I think it's the long-lost K-02 with an OVF. It's smaller in exactly the right places for a K-01 with the D-Li109.

08-21-2014, 08:52 AM	#424
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by JPT I'm going to sit my K-01 down at the dining table, and . . . "I'm sorry, K-01. There's no easy way to say this, but . . ." Try the 'ole "it's not you, it's me." Let us know how it goes.

08-21-2014, 09:03 AM	#426
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by Kenn100D Here's a post from Pentax Malta. OK... Hopefully this extends beyond the design and slimmer "selfie-friendly" grip to include features like built in WiFi.

08-21-2014, 09:07 AM	#427
mmichalak New Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11	Originally posted by JPT It depends what you mean by modular. Modular for whom? I doubt very much that the user will be able to pull off the mirror assembly to convert the camera from DSLR to mirrorless. But it strikes me that it might be modular from the manufacturer's point of view, allowing them to easily develop DSLRs and mirrorless cameras on the same platform - similar to the way car manufacturers share huge amounts of development cost between different models by basing them on the same platform. I can almost imagine Ricoh flipping a switch on the production line and having a very similar looking mirrorless model come out at the other end. For now, I'm just looking forward to seeing the rest of the specs and the price. Originally posted by JPT But it strikes me that it might be modular from the manufacturer's point of view, allowing them to easily develop DSLRs and mirrorless cameras on the same platform Exactly my thoughts, it's what I posted on the other thread "Pentax K-S1 = a new GR/GXR + an adapter?".. This would allow them for example to offer a version without the OVF, or to offer a mirrorless option.... or one trillion combinations of colours

08-21-2014, 09:08 AM	#428
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	BTW. I rumored about a 20 mp dslr camera back in April 2013. who new it would take this long to come to fruition? Not sure about the looks but let see what it can do. It may have a few surprises for us.

08-21-2014, 09:42 AM	#429
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by JimmyDranox I think this camera will be a big success for Pentax, specially for young generation and women. That would be children and women (people with small hands). Steve ---------- Post added 08-21-14 at 09:44 AM ---------- Originally posted by WillWeaverRVA It does have a mirror. Lots of pictures of DSLRs are taken with the mirror up to show off the sensor. The mirror is obviously down. The view shows a mirror box that is essentially the same as in other current Pentax dSLRs. Steve ---------- Post added 08-21-14 at 09:48 AM ---------- Originally posted by Kenn100D Here's a post from Pentax Malta. There is a Pentax Malta? Steve

08-21-2014, 09:49 AM	#430
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Touch Screen and an intuitive interface including connectivity for camera phone users might be a good selling point for newbies.

08-21-2014, 09:51 AM	#431
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by THoog Blasphemy! Tho' seriously, the more I look at it, the more I think it's the long-lost K-02 with an OVF. It's smaller in exactly the right places for a K-01 with the D-Li109. Well depending on the price, I might get it as an addition and not a replacement. I love my k-01, but the white K-S1 is just beautiful to me. My old k-x was white too...

08-21-2014, 09:52 AM	#433
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by stevebrot There is a Pentax Malta? Oh...I see. Pentax Malta is a FB page for the Pentax/Ricoh dealer on the small island nation. Steve

08-21-2014, 10:03 AM	#434
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by mmichalak Exactly my thoughts, it's what I posted on the other thread "Pentax K-S1 = a new GR/GXR + an adapter?".. This would allow them for example to offer a version without the OVF, or to offer a mirrorless option.... or one trillion combinations of colours Only if the mirrorless module is called the KF-U2.

08-21-2014, 10:06 AM	#435
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Originally posted by stevebrot That would be children and women (people with small hands). Steve I have large hands, but have used many camera the last 30 years with smaller grip than on K-S1 without any problem. Many of these cameras haven't had a protruding grip at all. I might get K-S1 just because it looks like a fun camera to use, and I also want encourage Ricoh/Pentax for trying to create something unique. ---------- Post added 21-08-14 at 19:07 ---------- Originally posted by froeschle Pentax K-L1 - It's what's inside that counts! That would be K-XL1 (K-S1, K-M1 and K-L1 is all APS-C cameras).