Pentax K-S1!

JinDesu · 08-27-2014, 07:19 AM

Eh, I can't really imagine what sort of creativity we would get out of an entry level camera. It's as small as an SL1 (so smaller than the k-500/k-50), it's got a bigger sensor + the sensor tech from the k-3, and it's flashy.

I'd want the innovative stuff to be on the mid and top range cameras (sorta like where the k-3 got the sensor tech as well as the much improved AF).

**luftfluss** · 08-27-2014, 07:30 AM

I'm curious as to the shutter sound.

Also curious about lens adjustment.

JinDesu · 08-27-2014, 07:31 AM

I doubt it, but if it has the k-3 or k-5 shutter sound, it'll be amazing.

y0chang · 08-27-2014, 07:40 AM

I think the price point is really what will set this camera apart. If its 500+ no one is going to buy it. If its under 400 and sold everywhere, 20 mega pixels no AA, full DSLR speed and focus, I think its a very compelling package. The prob is that Pentax always has had a compelling package, whether or not people buy in places other than japan it is a different story. I think the K-S1 will do well in Japan, but elsewhere I am not as sure. I definitely am more interested now that I saw it in the video (The video been removed though...that was one quick plug of that leak).

**boriscleto** · 08-27-2014, 07:41 AM

It's going to sound just like the shutter on the P3.

johnmflores · 08-27-2014, 07:41 AM - **2 Likes**

Credit to Pentax for trying so many different ways to crack the entry-level market--colored bodies, angular shapes (K-30), non-camera designers (K-01), size (Q), and now the K-S1. The only other company that's been as experimental has been Sony.

If they can get their retail channel sorted out, and by all indications they are working on it, they just might get somewhere.

Kenntak · 08-27-2014, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by y0chang

I think the price point is really what will set this camera apart. If its 500+ no one is going to buy it. If its under 400 and sold everywhere, 20 mega pixels no AA, full DSLR speed and focus, I think its a very compelling package. The prob is that Pentax always has had a compelling package, whether or not people buy in places other than japan it is a different story. I think the K-S1 will do well in Japan, but elsewhere I am not as sure. I definitely am more interested now that I saw it in the video (The video been removed though...that was one quick plug of that leak).

Do you think it will be under $400? I doubt it will be that cheap.

**luftfluss** · 08-27-2014, 07:43 AM

I, too, doubt under $400.

K-S1 should be bundled with the DA 35/2.4.

**boriscleto** · 08-27-2014, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Credit to Pentax for trying so many different ways to crack the entry-level market--colored bodies, angular shapes (K-30), non-camera designers (K-01), size (Q), and now the K-S1. The only other company that's been as experimental has been Sony.

If they can get their retail channel sorted out, and by all indications they are working on it, they just might get somewhere.

I think the CCC will have it's first patients as early as tomorrow.

**monochrome** · 08-27-2014, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Credit to Pentax for trying so many different ways to crack the entry-level market--colored bodies, angular shapes (K-30), non-camera designers (K-01), size (Q), and now the K-S1. The only other company that's been as experimental has been Sony.

If they can get their retail channel sorted out, and by all indications they are working on it, they just might get somewhere.

Get's it.

JinDesu · 08-27-2014, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

It's going to sound just like the shutter on the P3.

Pfft. Make it sound like a 6x7 if it's not going to be quiet at all!

IchabodCrane · 08-27-2014, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by y0chang

I think the price point is really what will set this camera apart. If its 500+ no one is going to buy it. If its under 400 and sold everywhere, 20 mega pixels no AA, full DSLR speed and focus, I think its a very compelling package. The prob is that Pentax always has had a compelling package, whether or not people buy in places other than japan it is a different story. I think the K-S1 will do well in Japan, but elsewhere I am not as sure. I definitely am more interested now that I saw it in the video (The video been removed though...that was one quick plug of that leak).

Regardless of cost to produce, they can't go too low with the price otherwise they start reducing the value of the K-3.

**luftfluss** · 08-27-2014, 07:57 AM

I actually don't want Pentax to compete based on price; it devalues the brand as a whole.

That does not mean I want Pentax to not be price-competitive... I simply do not want their focus to be having the lowest price. If, on balance, the K-S1 offers the same features and shooting experience as a $599 camera, don't sell it at $499 just to undercut the "competition".

johnmflores · 08-27-2014, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

I think the CCC will have it's first patients as early as tomorrow.

Hotlines and Admissions are fully staffed!

fsge · 08-27-2014, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by y0chang

I think the price point is really what will set this camera apart. If its 500+ no one is going to buy it. If its under 400 and sold everywhere, 20 mega pixels no AA, full DSLR speed and focus, I think its a very compelling package. The prob is that Pentax always has had a compelling package, whether or not people buy in places other than japan it is a different story. I think the K-S1 will do well in Japan, but elsewhere I am not as sure. I definitely am more interested now that I saw it in the video (The video been removed though...that was one quick plug of that leak).

I remember I bought my k-x kit for 800+ euros right after its launch back in 2009...
I would be surprised if this Ks1, if replacing K50, has a price tag below 500usd. Or maybe it is a K500 upgrade?

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08-27-2014, 07:19 AM	#811
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Eh, I can't really imagine what sort of creativity we would get out of an entry level camera. It's as small as an SL1 (so smaller than the k-500/k-50), it's got a bigger sensor + the sensor tech from the k-3, and it's flashy. I'd want the innovative stuff to be on the mid and top range cameras (sorta like where the k-3 got the sensor tech as well as the much improved AF).

08-27-2014, 07:30 AM	#812
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	I'm curious as to the shutter sound. Also curious about lens adjustment.

08-27-2014, 07:31 AM	#813
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	I doubt it, but if it has the k-3 or k-5 shutter sound, it'll be amazing.

08-27-2014, 07:40 AM	#814
y0chang Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: United States Posts: 793	I think the price point is really what will set this camera apart. If its 500+ no one is going to buy it. If its under 400 and sold everywhere, 20 mega pixels no AA, full DSLR speed and focus, I think its a very compelling package. The prob is that Pentax always has had a compelling package, whether or not people buy in places other than japan it is a different story. I think the K-S1 will do well in Japan, but elsewhere I am not as sure. I definitely am more interested now that I saw it in the video (The video been removed though...that was one quick plug of that leak).

08-27-2014, 07:41 AM	#815
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	It's going to sound just like the shutter on the P3.

08-27-2014, 07:41 AM - 2 Likes	#816
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Credit to Pentax for trying so many different ways to crack the entry-level market--colored bodies, angular shapes (K-30), non-camera designers (K-01), size (Q), and now the K-S1. The only other company that's been as experimental has been Sony. If they can get their retail channel sorted out, and by all indications they are working on it, they just might get somewhere.

08-27-2014, 07:42 AM	#817
Kenntak Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 198	Originally posted by y0chang I think the price point is really what will set this camera apart. If its 500+ no one is going to buy it. If its under 400 and sold everywhere, 20 mega pixels no AA, full DSLR speed and focus, I think its a very compelling package. The prob is that Pentax always has had a compelling package, whether or not people buy in places other than japan it is a different story. I think the K-S1 will do well in Japan, but elsewhere I am not as sure. I definitely am more interested now that I saw it in the video (The video been removed though...that was one quick plug of that leak). Do you think it will be under $400? I doubt it will be that cheap.

08-27-2014, 07:43 AM	#818
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	I, too, doubt under $400. K-S1 should be bundled with the DA 35/2.4.

08-27-2014, 07:44 AM	#819
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by johnmflores Credit to Pentax for trying so many different ways to crack the entry-level market--colored bodies, angular shapes (K-30), non-camera designers (K-01), size (Q), and now the K-S1. The only other company that's been as experimental has been Sony. If they can get their retail channel sorted out, and by all indications they are working on it, they just might get somewhere. I think the CCC will have it's first patients as early as tomorrow.

08-27-2014, 07:44 AM	#820
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by johnmflores Credit to Pentax for trying so many different ways to crack the entry-level market--colored bodies, angular shapes (K-30), non-camera designers (K-01), size (Q), and now the K-S1. The only other company that's been as experimental has been Sony. If they can get their retail channel sorted out, and by all indications they are working on it, they just might get somewhere. Get's it.

08-27-2014, 07:46 AM	#821
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by boriscleto It's going to sound just like the shutter on the P3. Pfft. Make it sound like a 6x7 if it's not going to be quiet at all!

08-27-2014, 07:51 AM	#822
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by y0chang I think the price point is really what will set this camera apart. If its 500+ no one is going to buy it. If its under 400 and sold everywhere, 20 mega pixels no AA, full DSLR speed and focus, I think its a very compelling package. The prob is that Pentax always has had a compelling package, whether or not people buy in places other than japan it is a different story. I think the K-S1 will do well in Japan, but elsewhere I am not as sure. I definitely am more interested now that I saw it in the video (The video been removed though...that was one quick plug of that leak). Regardless of cost to produce, they can't go too low with the price otherwise they start reducing the value of the K-3.

08-27-2014, 07:57 AM	#823
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	I actually don't want Pentax to compete based on price; it devalues the brand as a whole. That does not mean I want Pentax to not be price-competitive... I simply do not want their focus to be having the lowest price. If, on balance, the K-S1 offers the same features and shooting experience as a $599 camera, don't sell it at $499 just to undercut the "competition".

08-27-2014, 07:58 AM	#824
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by boriscleto I think the CCC will have it's first patients as early as tomorrow. Hotlines and Admissions are fully staffed!

08-27-2014, 08:07 AM	#825
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Originally posted by y0chang I think the price point is really what will set this camera apart. If its 500+ no one is going to buy it. If its under 400 and sold everywhere, 20 mega pixels no AA, full DSLR speed and focus, I think its a very compelling package. The prob is that Pentax always has had a compelling package, whether or not people buy in places other than japan it is a different story. I think the K-S1 will do well in Japan, but elsewhere I am not as sure. I definitely am more interested now that I saw it in the video (The video been removed though...that was one quick plug of that leak). I remember I bought my k-x kit for 800+ euros right after its launch back in 2009... I would be surprised if this Ks1, if replacing K50, has a price tag below 500usd. Or maybe it is a K500 upgrade?