Official Photokina Predictions Thread

Winder · 09-15-2014, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by digital029art

"Imagine: Under Engineering"

P.S. You know I <3 you Pentax!

After 3 years they don't even have drawings of what they are working on? No mock-ups made from foam?

---------- Post added 09-15-14 at 11:28 AM ----------

Originally posted by lytrytyr

No, you should read the review:

"Expensive for a variable aperture standard zoom
Odd zoom range is not really very wide, nor very telephoto
Neither focus or zoom are performed internally"

These are typical technogeek complaints that have nothing to do with the excellent photographic potential of the lens.

Enjoy your lens.

Kunzite · 09-15-2014, 09:31 AM

They will most likely have prototypes under glass - and Adam promised to have pictures by tomorrow. The "kit zoom" is in advanced development, the other two unknown (it will be interesting to see how much they'll tell about them right now

).
But it's so easy to jump to negative conclusions... because PentaxIsDoomed!

Nicolas06 · 09-15-2014, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by Winder

Why do you think the review is a 3.5 star? The build quality is excellent. The AF motor is fast and quiet. What is bringing the review down to 3.5 stars? Everything about the lens is excellent except the optics which are average.

This is not what they say, it get 4 stars for performance (so optics) and handling but 2.5 as value for money and 3 for features.

And honestly better for a 1200€ prime like FA31 ltd to perform better than a zoom. You are not objective here.

**LaurenOE** · 09-15-2014, 09:37 AM - **1 Like**

Here we go!
I fixed the "under engineering" image.

ogl · 09-15-2014, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

They will most likely have prototypes under glass - and Adam promised to have pictures by tomorrow. The "kit zoom" is in advanced development, the other two unknown (it will be interesting to see how much they'll tell about them right now

).
But it's so easy to jump to negative conclusions... because PentaxIsDoomed!

Ricoh offers rather pale products this Photokina if we compare with Samsung, Canon, Panasonic, Nikon.

Future Zooms? Pentax could make HQ zooms many years ago, but not now. Pentax could make FIXED lenses.
But Fuji makes now fixed lenses which could made by Pentax.

No really new DSLR, no any fast and interesting lens, no HQ compacts.
Maybe someday...This Photokina indicates that Ricoh is in some crisis in terms of ideas.

have a look at announcement from other brand...it's really STRONG moves. Ricoh is pale.

---------- Post added 09-15-2014 at 09:46 AM ----------

Originally posted by LaurenOE

Here we go!
I fixed the "under engineering" image.

Too cool to be true.

But I vote for 1st and 3rd positions

))

---------- Post added 09-15-2014 at 09:48 AM ----------

Originally posted by Kunzite

Good things are coming to those who wait a lot

If you mean Paradise - yes. If you mean photocameras - no. Need to use camera here and now. No need to wait.

Clavius · 09-15-2014, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

The "kit zoom" is in advanced development, the other two unknown (it will be interesting to see how much they'll tell about them right now

).

18-55HD
55-200HD
18-135HD

Originally posted by Kunzite

But it's so easy to jump to negative conclusions...

"Laughing like the dog at the fair." Is a Dutch saying that applies here. Hope it translates.

IchabodCrane · 09-15-2014, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by dadipentak

Couldn't they have made up some better-looking placeholders?! Has anyone in that shop heard of computer graphics?

I think those are just for before the show opens. Doubtful those little signs will be there when the doors officially open.

**DennisH** · 09-15-2014, 10:10 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by ogl

Ricoh offers rather pale products this Photokina if we compare with Samsung, Canon, Panasonic, Nikon.

Future Zooms? Pentax could make HQ zooms many years ago, but not now. Pentax could make FIXED lenses.
But Fuji makes now fixed lenses which could made by Pentax.

No really new DSLR, no any fast and interesting lens, no HQ compacts.
Maybe someday...This Photokina indicates that Ricoh is in some crisis in terms of ideas.

have a look at announcement from other brand...it's really STRONG moves. Ricoh is pale.

---------- Post added 09-15-2014 at 09:46 AM ----------

Too cool to be true.

But I vote for 1st and 3rd positions

))

---------- Post added 09-15-2014 at 09:48 AM ----------

If you mean Paradise - yes. If you mean photocameras - no. Need to use camera here and now. No need to wait.

Sell your gear (cheap) and go with a better company. Problem solved.

IchabodCrane · 09-15-2014, 10:15 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by DennisH

Sell your gear (cheap) and go with a better company. Problem solved.

Posts like this start to look like a veiled form of personal attack and subtle forum censorship. We don't need that, IMHO.

**DennisH** · 09-15-2014, 10:22 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by IchabodCrane

Posts like this start to look like a veiled form of personal attack and subtle forum censorship. We don't need that, IMHO.

Oh, please.

xabolcs · 09-15-2014, 10:27 AM

...the ~~Pentax~~ Ricoh K-3 999 color variations; the old DA lenses repainted 999 color variations, + plastic mount is more expensive...

IchabodCrane · 09-15-2014, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by DennisH

Oh, please.

Yes, telling someone to sell their Pentax gear and, by implication, go away from this forum is a personal attack of some sort.

**DennisH** · 09-15-2014, 11:01 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by IchabodCrane

Yes, telling someone to sell their Pentax gear and, by implication, go away from this forum is a personal attack of some sort.

Christ. Maybe I'll just come back when all the hysteria calms down.

**VoiceOfReason** · 09-15-2014, 11:07 AM - **3 Likes**

Pentax is DOOOOOOOMMMMMEEEEED!!!

Mistral75 · 09-15-2014, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by VoiceOfReason

Pentax is DOOOOOOOMMMMMEEEEED!!!

If that's the VoiceOfReason, I prefer not to hear the shout of madness!

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Compact camera	36	11.21%
High-end compact camera	52	16.20%
K-mount lens	191	59.50%
Q-mount lens	111	34.58%
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09-15-2014, 09:44 AM	#230
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Kunzite They will most likely have prototypes under glass - and Adam promised to have pictures by tomorrow. The "kit zoom" is in advanced development, the other two unknown (it will be interesting to see how much they'll tell about them right now ). But it's so easy to jump to negative conclusions... because PentaxIsDoomed! Ricoh offers rather pale products this Photokina if we compare with Samsung, Canon, Panasonic, Nikon. Future Zooms? Pentax could make HQ zooms many years ago, but not now. Pentax could make FIXED lenses. But Fuji makes now fixed lenses which could made by Pentax. No really new DSLR, no any fast and interesting lens, no HQ compacts. Maybe someday...This Photokina indicates that Ricoh is in some crisis in terms of ideas. have a look at announcement from other brand...it's really STRONG moves. Ricoh is pale. ---------- Post added 09-15-2014 at 09:46 AM ---------- Originally posted by LaurenOE Here we go! I fixed the "under engineering" image. Too cool to be true. But I vote for 1st and 3rd positions)) ---------- Post added 09-15-2014 at 09:48 AM ---------- Originally posted by Kunzite Good things are coming to those who wait a lot If you mean Paradise - yes. If you mean photocameras - no. Need to use camera here and now. No need to wait.

09-15-2014, 10:10 AM - 2 Likes	#233
DennisH Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stratford, CT Photos: Gallery Posts: 726	Originally posted by ogl Ricoh offers rather pale products this Photokina if we compare with Samsung, Canon, Panasonic, Nikon. Future Zooms? Pentax could make HQ zooms many years ago, but not now. Pentax could make FIXED lenses. But Fuji makes now fixed lenses which could made by Pentax. No really new DSLR, no any fast and interesting lens, no HQ compacts. Maybe someday...This Photokina indicates that Ricoh is in some crisis in terms of ideas. have a look at announcement from other brand...it's really STRONG moves. Ricoh is pale. ---------- Post added 09-15-2014 at 09:46 AM ---------- Too cool to be true. But I vote for 1st and 3rd positions)) ---------- Post added 09-15-2014 at 09:48 AM ---------- If you mean Paradise - yes. If you mean photocameras - no. Need to use camera here and now. No need to wait. Sell your gear (cheap) and go with a better company. Problem solved.

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09-15-2014, 09:28 AM	#226
Winder Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by digital029art "Imagine: Under Engineering" P.S. You know I <3 you Pentax! After 3 years they don't even have drawings of what they are working on? No mock-ups made from foam? ---------- Post added 09-15-14 at 11:28 AM ---------- Originally posted by lytrytyr No, you should read the review: "Expensive for a variable aperture standard zoom Odd zoom range is not really very wide, nor very telephoto Neither focus or zoom are performed internally" These are typical technogeek complaints that have nothing to do with the excellent photographic potential of the lens. Enjoy your lens.

09-15-2014, 09:31 AM	#227
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,100	They will most likely have prototypes under glass - and Adam promised to have pictures by tomorrow. The "kit zoom" is in advanced development, the other two unknown (it will be interesting to see how much they'll tell about them right now ). But it's so easy to jump to negative conclusions... because PentaxIsDoomed!

09-15-2014, 09:34 AM	#228
Nicolas06 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4,854	Originally posted by Winder Why do you think the review is a 3.5 star? The build quality is excellent. The AF motor is fast and quiet. What is bringing the review down to 3.5 stars? Everything about the lens is excellent except the optics which are average. This is not what they say, it get 4 stars for performance (so optics) and handling but 2.5 as value for money and 3 for features. And honestly better for a 1200€ prime like FA31 ltd to perform better than a zoom. You are not objective here.

09-15-2014, 09:37 AM - 1 Like	#229
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Here we go! I fixed the "under engineering" image.

09-15-2014, 09:55 AM	#231
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,133	Originally posted by Kunzite The "kit zoom" is in advanced development, the other two unknown (it will be interesting to see how much they'll tell about them right now ). 18-55HD 55-200HD 18-135HD Originally posted by Kunzite But it's so easy to jump to negative conclusions... "Laughing like the dog at the fair." Is a Dutch saying that applies here. Hope it translates.

09-15-2014, 09:59 AM	#232
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by dadipentak Couldn't they have made up some better-looking placeholders?! Has anyone in that shop heard of computer graphics? I think those are just for before the show opens. Doubtful those little signs will be there when the doors officially open.

09-15-2014, 10:15 AM - 2 Likes	#234
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by DennisH Sell your gear (cheap) and go with a better company. Problem solved. Posts like this start to look like a veiled form of personal attack and subtle forum censorship. We don't need that, IMHO.

09-15-2014, 10:22 AM - 1 Like	#235
DennisH Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stratford, CT Photos: Gallery Posts: 726	Originally posted by IchabodCrane Posts like this start to look like a veiled form of personal attack and subtle forum censorship. We don't need that, IMHO. Oh, please.

09-15-2014, 10:27 AM	#236
xabolcs Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Wild-Nord-East Hungary Photos: Albums Posts: 149	...the ~~Pentax~~ Ricoh K-3 999 color variations; the old DA lenses repainted 999 color variations, + plastic mount is more expensive...

09-15-2014, 10:55 AM	#237
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by DennisH Oh, please. Yes, telling someone to sell their Pentax gear and, by implication, go away from this forum is a personal attack of some sort.

09-15-2014, 11:01 AM - 1 Like	#238
DennisH Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stratford, CT Photos: Gallery Posts: 726	Originally posted by IchabodCrane Yes, telling someone to sell their Pentax gear and, by implication, go away from this forum is a personal attack of some sort. Christ. Maybe I'll just come back when all the hysteria calms down.

09-15-2014, 11:07 AM - 3 Likes	#239
VoiceOfReason Emperor and Senpai Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,122	Pentax is DOOOOOOOMMMMMEEEEED!!!

09-15-2014, 11:17 AM	#240
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 6,962	Originally posted by VoiceOfReason Pentax is DOOOOOOOMMMMMEEEEED!!! If that's the VoiceOfReason, I prefer not to hear the shout of madness!

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