Official Photokina Predictions Thread

jimr-pdx · 08-26-2014, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by ZombieArmy

In my vote I included the full frame mirrorless not because I think we'd see it, but because that would be incredibly neat. Especially since (unlike the normal full frame market) the full frame mirrorless market is pretty damn new and Pentax could REALLY make an impression there.

My sentiments are similar, and Pentax/Ricoh are just the quirky ones to pull it off. I expect a prototype with no specific date attached, sadly

D1N0 · 08-26-2014, 11:23 AM

Three lenses A DA 12-28, A DA 15-85, A DA 120-400 (all variable aperture).

**dadipentak** · 08-26-2014, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by WillWeaverRVA

The K-3 is too new to be replaced just yet,

I think that's right. And the K5IIs is too good to discontinue.

philbaum · 08-26-2014, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by jimr-pdx

My sentiments are similar, and Pentax/Ricoh are just the quirky ones to pull it off. I expect a prototype with no specific date attached, sadly

I agree with you two. I think Fuji is Pentax's most similar competitor and they are gradually sorting out their issues. But Pentax has no mirrorless competitor of the aps size like Fuji. Pentax needs that alternative for the future, IMO. Sure, they can keep on making DSLRs, but not to enter the mirrorless other than the Q, is a mistake, IMO. We need a follow-up to the K01.

**monochrome** · 08-26-2014, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by philbaum

but not to enter the mirrorless other than the Q, is a mistake, IMO. We need a follow-up to the K01

In one of the interviews (I think Imaging Resource) the Exec admitted they had missed an opportunity in MILC - and they were developing a response.

Caat · 08-27-2014, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Three lenses A DA 12-28, A DA 15-85, A DA 120-400 (all variable aperture).

It's certainly about time we saw prototypes or at least got the actual focal lengths for these lenses. So that's quite possible I would think. I doubt any will be announced with imminent availability though.

Kunzite · 08-27-2014, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

In one of the interviews (I think Imaging Resource) the Exec admitted they had missed an opportunity in MILC - and they were developing a response.

I don't remember seeing this, could you please link to the interview? (it's not distrust, I'd just like to see the exact wording)

**monochrome** · 08-27-2014, 02:38 AM

I'll try - but like I wrote, I think and it was just one line in a long article.

**RuiC** · 08-27-2014, 03:20 AM

I voted OTHER !!!
I guess Ricoh will announce negotiations to sell PENTAX brand to a PentaxForums consortium !!!

**LaurenOE** · 08-27-2014, 03:42 AM

I think we pretty much have everything we know going into Photokina.
Having come off the 645z, I don't think the top tier dSLR folks are ready to roll out anything.

Maybe a compact with a Ricoh name on it. Aside from the GR and Theta, we don't have a new Ricoh product and I can't wait to see what the Ricoh brain trust comes up with.

I'm ready for surprises though.

Kunzite · 08-27-2014, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by RuiC

I voted OTHER !!!
I guess Ricoh will announce negotiations to sell PENTAX brand to a PentaxForums consortium !!!

They're DOOMED. They'll have to make an integrated modular mirrorless DSLR with 3 different mounts one on top of another, interchangeable sensors (with every possible option from medium format to 1"), smaller than the Q but with a grip suitable to large hands. It will have to allow us to use every K-mount lens ever made, and force us to buy new lenses. And it will have to look exactly like a Fuji, yet be unique.
All their engineers would commit seppuku minutes after the sellout.

Mike.P® · 08-27-2014, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by pinholecam

Adam, your list is too weak if thats all that will be at Photokina.
Prob is.... I think you will be right....

It's a lot more than I am expecting.

Clavius · 08-27-2014, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by ZombieArmy

In my vote I included the full frame mirrorless not because I think we'd see it, but because that would be incredibly neat. Especially since (unlike the normal full frame market) the full frame mirrorless market is pretty damn new and Pentax could REALLY make an impression there.

Aren't they too late for that? Sony has that niche overly covered with 3 still cameras and a video camera, no less. They would be better off just announcing a PK to FE AF adapter.

They'll probably announce some entry level DSLR. Or a mid range DSLR based on the K-3 sensor. Meh...

Kunzite · 08-27-2014, 09:59 AM

I won't vote - the poll is more science fiction than realistic predictions - but I keep wondering, if the K-S1 will indeed be announced tomorrow, doesn't that leave room for another DSLR camera?

(no, I'm NOT talking about a FF).

mecrox · 08-27-2014, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I won't vote - the poll is more science fiction than realistic predictions - but I keep wondering, if the K-S1 will indeed be announced tomorrow, doesn't that leave room for another DSLR camera?

(no, I'm NOT talking about a FF).

I have a feeling Ricoh won't announce an FF camera, if every they do, until they have completed whatever it is they've been doing behind the scenes by way of redoing how they design and manufacture their photography products. Possibly also where they do it if a new factory is involved. If so, the logic of that points to their working up the scale, so next up is the mid-ranger with WR and perhaps 24 mpx to replace the D-50. But as always, who knows. What I'd really like is a new GR.

View Poll Results: What new products will Pentax unveil at Photokina 2014?
Entry-level DSLR	144	44.86%
Mid-range DSLR	72	22.43%
High-end APS-C DSLR	32	9.97%
The Pentax full frame DSLR!	90	28.04%
Compact camera	36	11.21%
High-end compact camera	52	16.20%
K-mount lens	191	59.50%
Q-mount lens	111	34.58%
645-mount lens	89	27.73%
Pentax accessory	59	18.38%
New mirrorless camera	46	14.33%
Full-frame mirrorless	34	10.59%
Other (make a post!)	13	4.05%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 321. You may not vote on this poll

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08-26-2014, 10:26 AM	#46
jimr-pdx Pentaxian Join Date: May 2010 Location: now 1 hour north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,897	Originally posted by ZombieArmy In my vote I included the full frame mirrorless not because I think we'd see it, but because that would be incredibly neat. Especially since (unlike the normal full frame market) the full frame mirrorless market is pretty damn new and Pentax could REALLY make an impression there. My sentiments are similar, and Pentax/Ricoh are just the quirky ones to pull it off. I expect a prototype with no specific date attached, sadly

08-26-2014, 11:23 AM	#47
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Three lenses A DA 12-28, A DA 15-85, A DA 120-400 (all variable aperture).

08-26-2014, 12:25 PM	#48
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Originally posted by WillWeaverRVA The K-3 is too new to be replaced just yet, I think that's right. And the K5IIs is too good to discontinue.

08-26-2014, 05:27 PM	#49
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	Originally posted by jimr-pdx My sentiments are similar, and Pentax/Ricoh are just the quirky ones to pull it off. I expect a prototype with no specific date attached, sadly I agree with you two. I think Fuji is Pentax's most similar competitor and they are gradually sorting out their issues. But Pentax has no mirrorless competitor of the aps size like Fuji. Pentax needs that alternative for the future, IMO. Sure, they can keep on making DSLRs, but not to enter the mirrorless other than the Q, is a mistake, IMO. We need a follow-up to the K01.

08-26-2014, 06:41 PM	#50
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by philbaum but not to enter the mirrorless other than the Q, is a mistake, IMO. We need a follow-up to the K01 In one of the interviews (I think Imaging Resource) the Exec admitted they had missed an opportunity in MILC - and they were developing a response.

08-27-2014, 02:05 AM	#51
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by D1N0 Three lenses A DA 12-28, A DA 15-85, A DA 120-400 (all variable aperture). It's certainly about time we saw prototypes or at least got the actual focal lengths for these lenses. So that's quite possible I would think. I doubt any will be announced with imminent availability though.

08-27-2014, 02:30 AM	#52
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by monochrome In one of the interviews (I think Imaging Resource) the Exec admitted they had missed an opportunity in MILC - and they were developing a response. I don't remember seeing this, could you please link to the interview? (it's not distrust, I'd just like to see the exact wording)

08-27-2014, 02:38 AM	#53
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	I'll try - but like I wrote, I think and it was just one line in a long article.

08-27-2014, 03:20 AM	#54
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	I voted OTHER !!! I guess Ricoh will announce negotiations to sell PENTAX brand to a PentaxForums consortium !!!

08-27-2014, 03:42 AM	#55
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	I think we pretty much have everything we know going into Photokina. Having come off the 645z, I don't think the top tier dSLR folks are ready to roll out anything. Maybe a compact with a Ricoh name on it. Aside from the GR and Theta, we don't have a new Ricoh product and I can't wait to see what the Ricoh brain trust comes up with. I'm ready for surprises though.

08-27-2014, 04:41 AM	#56
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by RuiC I voted OTHER !!! I guess Ricoh will announce negotiations to sell PENTAX brand to a PentaxForums consortium !!! They're DOOMED. They'll have to make an integrated modular mirrorless DSLR with 3 different mounts one on top of another, interchangeable sensors (with every possible option from medium format to 1"), smaller than the Q but with a grip suitable to large hands. It will have to allow us to use every K-mount lens ever made, and force us to buy new lenses. And it will have to look exactly like a Fuji, yet be unique. All their engineers would commit seppuku minutes after the sellout.

08-27-2014, 04:45 AM	#57
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by pinholecam Adam, your list is too weak if thats all that will be at Photokina. Prob is.... I think you will be right.... It's a lot more than I am expecting.

08-27-2014, 05:33 AM	#58
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by ZombieArmy In my vote I included the full frame mirrorless not because I think we'd see it, but because that would be incredibly neat. Especially since (unlike the normal full frame market) the full frame mirrorless market is pretty damn new and Pentax could REALLY make an impression there. Aren't they too late for that? Sony has that niche overly covered with 3 still cameras and a video camera, no less. They would be better off just announcing a PK to FE AF adapter. They'll probably announce some entry level DSLR. Or a mid range DSLR based on the K-3 sensor. Meh...

08-27-2014, 09:59 AM	#59
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I won't vote - the poll is more science fiction than realistic predictions - but I keep wondering, if the K-S1 will indeed be announced tomorrow, doesn't that leave room for another DSLR camera? (no, I'm NOT talking about a FF).

08-27-2014, 10:08 AM	#60
mecrox Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxford, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,375	Originally posted by Kunzite I won't vote - the poll is more science fiction than realistic predictions - but I keep wondering, if the K-S1 will indeed be announced tomorrow, doesn't that leave room for another DSLR camera? (no, I'm NOT talking about a FF). I have a feeling Ricoh won't announce an FF camera, if every they do, until they have completed whatever it is they've been doing behind the scenes by way of redoing how they design and manufacture their photography products. Possibly also where they do it if a new factory is involved. If so, the logic of that points to their working up the scale, so next up is the mid-ranger with WR and perhaps 24 mpx to replace the D-50. But as always, who knows. What I'd really like is a new GR.