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09-01-2014, 01:28 AM   #196
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Worst : if you have Samsung EX2F, you need two android applications : one for tethering, one for wifi-exchange...
and of course, noway if you use an i-phone...
+ i will not insist on the numerous samsung's "parasite" apps and pop-ups you get on your computer when charging those PC-based apps...

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Where? I don't remember reading such a thing.
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Try touching a screen while articulated. You'll put stress on the articulating arms and have no solid resistance. It's a usability and warranty considearation. Articulating screens are meant to be passive. The best part of a touch screen is the capacity to eliminate tactile controls by substitution. But if you have a touch screen that articulates and cannot accurately present tactile feedback then you'll have also include tactile controls. Size advantage lost.
Articulated screens are often quite stiff, and touch screens react to very light touches (as anybody with a smart phone knows it is very easy to unintentionally open something). Also there are camera's with articulated touch screens. e.g. the Sony A5100 the EOS 70D.
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Articulated screens are often quite stiff, and touch screens react to very light touches (as anybody with a smart phone knows it is very easy to unintentionally open something). Also there are camera's with articulated touch screens. e.g. the Sony A5100 the EOS 70D.
1. Touchscreen could be switched off in menu of camera
2. Touchscreen's sensitivity is adjustable

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QuoteOriginally posted by Zygonyx Quote
Worst : if you have Samsung EX2F, you need two android applications : one for tethering, one for wifi-exchange...
and of course, noway if you use an i-phone...
+ i will not insist on the numerous samsung's "parasite" apps and pop-ups you get on your computer when charging those PC-based apps...



No, that's the hard way. Given the huge size of the files, many phones won't have enough storage anyway. The easier way -- and they way most people will care about -- is to allow the camera to connect to an existing network, store usernames and passwords, and then use the APIs of sites like Facebook to post lower res versions to their accounts. "Here's us at Disneyland!"


Then enable WiFi transfer to Windows and MacOS desktops using the driver software package. Or just have it connect was a device on the network and use the built in file/copy protocols in the OS.


You have to keep up with any changes in the APIs and new OS version, but you don't have to muck about trying to support hundreds and thousands of hardware devices.

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Always possible I realise, especially with Apple involved, but ..
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Then enable WiFi transfer to Windows and MacOS desktops using the driver software package. Or just have it connect was a device on the network and use the built in file/copy protocols in the OS.
I spoke directly, personally, with Jim Malcolm about this (in a conference with ten other PF members posted in the Q Forum). He told me Ricoh had extensive discussions with Apple and others over the course of more than a year, but Ricoh decided they simply weren't willing to comply with (particularly) Apple's requirements if Ricoh was to make use of the API and apps.

Apparently, that decision closed the on-board Wi-Fi door, so they worked with Eye-Fi to develop the card-sensing Menu system and with Flu to develop the card. Ricoh isn't stupid, folks. There's a reason for this solution.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I spoke directly, personally, with Jim Malcolm about this (in a conference with ten other PF members posted in the Q Forum). He told me Ricoh had extensive discussions with Apple and others over the course of more than a year, but Ricoh decided they simply weren't willing to comply with (particularly) Apple's requirements if Ricoh was to make use of the API and apps.

Apparently, that decision closed the on-board Wi-Fi door, so they worked with Eye-Fi to develop the card-sensing Menu system and with Flu to develop the card. Ricoh isn't stupid, folks. There's a reason for this solution.
Nikon and Canon and Sony and Samsung are all doing it. The SD card options are an added cost and now Ricoh looks uncompetitive. Odd since Ricoh has long been known for its excellent firmware support, which is primarily what this is.

I smell a cost issue.

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
1. Touchscreen could be switched off in menu of camera
2. Touchscreen's sensitivity is adjustable
But a major point of a touchscreen is to eliminate the tactile control need.
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No, that's the hard way.

You have to keep up with any changes in the APIs and new OS version, but you don't have to muck about trying to support hundreds and thousands of hardware devices.
Or you could just send an mms....

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QuoteOriginally posted by Aristophanes Quote
I smell a cost issue.
Really? I thought Wi-Fi only cost $0.20 to implement (per OGL) or $5 - $10 at retail (per IchabodCrane, corrected).

IMHO Ricoh doesn't want to be tied to constantly updating Firmware on APPLE'S schedule. I suppose the companies you named are large enough, or feel compelled enough, to submit control of their development budgets to their monopolistic overlords.

But clearly, based on the repeated responses to my opinion, I am a benighted old man, living in probably the 19th C.

So nevermind.
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So then send an mms.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
That same DPR side-by-side comparison also shows the K-50 as a compact SLR and the K-S1 as a Mid-size SLR.

The US Ricoh web site lists polyarbonate over metal chassis for the K-S1.
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DPReview is also saying about the K-S1 that "the remainder of the body is a mix of composite and metal and it feels very solid".
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But a major point of a touchscreen is to eliminate the tactile control need.
The mayor point of a touch screen to me is focussing by touch. (which is why it is more useful on mirror less.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Really? I thought Wi-Fi only cost $0.20 to implement (per OGL) or $5 - $10 at retail (per IchabodCrane, corrected).

IMHO Ricoh doesn't want to be tied to constantly updating Firmware on APPLE'S schedule. I suppose the companies you named are large enough, or feel compelled enough, to submit control of their development budgets to their monopolistic overlords.

But clearly, based on the repeated responses to my opinion, I am a benighted old man, living in probably the 19th C.

So nevermind.
Wi-fi doesn't depend on Apple's schedule. The APIs for mobile OS and desktop OS are the problems as it commits camera makers to app creation and maintenance.

Al they need is an app that says: "talk to Pentax camera and put in camera roll of applicable device". Keep in mind the new iOS 8 will accept RAW. Since Pentax uses DNG our brand already has a headstart.

I suspect Pentax and others want what Apple does now and that is to put RAW conversion at the OS-level. I have spoken to Apple engineers and they find this enormously convoluted wight he camera makers hardly able to communicate.

you can see this on the K-S1. Hardware engineered LEDs and backlighting.

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The mayor point of a touch screen to me is focussing by touch. (which is why it is more useful on mirror less.
Right. Thereby eliminating the need for a control wheel to select focus points. One or the other.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Aristophanes Quote
Right. Thereby eliminating the need for a control wheel to select focus points. One or the other.
cd-focus uses the sensor, you won't be using your phase detect, unless the sensor has phase detect points. You will not be using your touch screen while looking through the ovf so you will always need tactile controls for moving your AF-point.
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