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09-17-2014, 11:53 PM   #316
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Haven't read whole thread but I used/still have the 16-45/4 for my Pentax (K10D, now K7) and the one thing that used to drive me nuts was the 45mm end... just not long enough... but the 16mm side had me in it's grasp! So, when I bought a Nikon to bolt on the back of my newly acquired 2nd hand (from here!) 100-300/4 Sigma, I bought the 16-85 Nikkor. Perfect travel/general purpose lens for me. I don't need a wide aperture for this kind of use, increased ISO capabilty covers that. Actually thinking about this, my Nikkor isn't perfect as it's not WR... this Pentax is going to be... maybe it's my perfect travel lens!

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QuoteOriginally posted by HGMonaro Quote
Haven't read whole thread but I used/still have the 16-45/4 for my Pentax (K10D, now K7) and the one thing that used to drive me nuts was the 45mm end... just not long enough...
No, it's not quite long enough - on the other hand I think the short minimum focusing distance and the nice rendering at 45mm makes the lens very useful at that FL after all!
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QuoteOriginally posted by gazonk Quote
No, it's not quite long enough - on the other hand I think the short minimum focusing distance and the nice rendering at 45mm makes the lens very useful at that FL after all!
I did not take formal tests but it seems to me my 16-45 has become soft but maybe that's the different sensors it has been used on: (ist-D, K10D, K-7, K-5).
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I first had a 16-45, then a 17-70. I really liked the 16-45 in terms of weight, "feel" and colors, but the sharpness wasn't always there. I think my second 17-70 is much better. Although, to be honest, it could also be my general technique improving over time.

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The K10D was already pushing the limits of the 16-45mm f/4 - my copy has the wobbly barrel and as a consequence: it has considerable de-centering.
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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
To be fair, the current Sigma has not been tested against the DA 17-70. Its immediate predecessor was deemed essentially comparable in the review here at Pentax Forums with a slight node going to the Sigma. My comment was based on what I remembered of the photozone.de review of the DA 17-70 and the glowing review of the Sigma 17-70 (c) on this site. To quote the PF reviewer:
I'm the one who wrote that review

The Pentax is a very fine lens, in itself. Nothing wrong with it, your typical Pentax lens. The Sigma simply has more perks at a lower price in most markets. that doesn't make the Pentax mediocre.
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QuoteOriginally posted by VisualDarkness Quote
Even if the lens don't have IS I would love a SR switch on the lens or in the body to make switching easier.
I miss the SR switch from the K10d. Better than scrolling through menus.
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So, is it at all possible that this new lens features Internal Zoom, because it is about time that Pentax released a standard zoom which dorsnt change size in my opinion.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Joshua A Quote
So, is it at all possible that this new lens features Internal Zoom, because it is about time that Pentax released a standard zoom which dorsnt change size in my opinion.
Looking at the lens and the competition (Canon/Nikon equivalents), I would highly doubt it is internal zoom. I wish it was though.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JinDesu Quote
Looking at the lens and the competition (Canon/Nikon equivalents), I would highly doubt it is internal zoom. I wish it was though.
I already have a 16-50, but I really do wish I could buy a durable alternative with WR, but alas, it cannot be done at the moment.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Joshua A Quote
I already have a 16-50, but I really do wish I could buy a durable alternative with WR, but alas, it cannot be done at the moment.
I do as well. 16mm is perfect for wide angle, 18mm isn't quite enough. This would be a good alternative to the 18-55 kit lens for general use. Hopefully they put a decent motor in it and get more out of the AF while eliminating the screw noise. Hopefully it's good optically as well. Fuji's 18-55 kit lens is a few level's above everyone else and it would be nice to see this one perform the same.
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QuoteOriginally posted by LeeRunge Quote
Fuji's 18-55 kit lens is a few level's above everyone else and it would be nice to see this one perform the same.
Well it costs €700,- so it better be better then de 18-55 wr i got for a €50 mark up.
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
Well it costs 700,- so it better be better then de 18-55 wr i got for a 50 mark up.
In the USA, the price for the Fuji 18-55 when bought in the kit comes out to $400 over the body-only price.
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QuoteOriginally posted by LeeRunge Quote
Fuji's 18-55 kit lens is a few level's above everyone else and it would be nice to see this one perform the same.
With or without software corrections applied (on both sides, I'm not really defending Pentax, just making sure the comparison is fair).
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QuoteOriginally posted by IchabodCrane Quote
In the USA, the price for the Fuji 18-55 when bought in the kit comes out to $400 over the body-only price.
It'd be nice for the 16-85 to have a body discount, and I think Pentax did do nice discounts with lenses, like in the case of the 18-135 it was almost $150 off the lens with the body.

The Fuji 18-55 is $600 here at B&H by itself.
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