Here you are! The new Pentax zoom lenses

gazonk · 09-19-2014, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by Quicksand

Notable is the lack of "sr" in that alphabet soup.

I like that, but... what are all the buttons for then?

**StigVidar** · 09-19-2014, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by asahi man

HD DFA* 70-200 / 2,8 ED AL (IF) SDM

not the current SDM

Is there any similar information about the other large lens?

ogl · 09-19-2014, 02:41 AM

The problem that Pentax stopped to develop new primes.

cxdoo · 09-19-2014, 02:42 AM

So did anyone get any further info on two unmarked zooms? Why are they still unmarked? What is still unclear - focal lengths or apertures or pretty much everything?

wed7 · 09-19-2014, 02:50 AM

Everything😊

gazonk · 09-19-2014, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by ogl

The problem that Pentax stopped to develop new primes.

You see that as a problem. I see it as a sign. The APS-C line of primes is quite complete (yes, I know we all have some pet focal length/aperture combos that we don't see covered, but still...). The primes they work on now should be for the upcoming FF camera, of course: They can easily cover "the middle ground" of primes with the three amigos, and for longer focal lengths they already have some primes that will work. But they quite urgently need some wider FF-compatilbe primes than the FA31 - as a minimum a fast 24 and a 18 or 20mm prime.

ogl · 09-19-2014, 04:28 AM

upcoming FF camera? is it such fantasy?

totsmuyco · 09-19-2014, 05:03 AM

Please Ricoh, make my wish come true. Let the large Zoom be a 135-540. Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaase.

Make them all WR or Aw. Pleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaase.

**StigVidar** · 09-19-2014, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

Please Ricoh, make my wish come true. Let the large Zoom be a 135-540. Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaase.

Make them all WR or Aw. Pleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaase.

It could be 540mm, but after som measurements on the pictures shown it seems the front element is around 85mm. So if it is 540mm it has to be a f/6.3 lens.

Alizarine · 09-19-2014, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by ogl

The problem that Pentax stopped to develop new primes.

If Pentax made two new primes instead of two good zooms, I think you'd probably saay that the problem is that Pentax doesn't make good zooms.

ogl · 09-19-2014, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by Alizarine

If Pentax made two new primes instead of two good zooms, I think you'd probably saay that the problem is that Pentax doesn't make good zooms.

Why? Where is the logics? I don't use zooms. Especially, slow zooms.
Do you really know that this zooms are good? How do you know it?

I think you will buy 16-85/3.5-5.6 instead of Tamron 17-50/2.8. Are you ready?

**Aristophanes** · 09-19-2014, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Why? Where is the logics? I don't use zooms. Especially, slow zooms.

But those are what the market buys predominantly because most of the market buys on price and base functionality.

Most people shoot f/4 and up for 99% of their photography. Catering to that dynamic is where the bulk of sales are by far, so all you are seeing is the supply meeting the demand.

Zygonyx · 09-19-2014, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by ogl

The problem that Pentax stopped to develop new primes.

Don't see any problem man, you are in a "zoom lens" thread

**luftfluss** · 09-19-2014, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by ogl

upcoming FF camera? is it such fantasy?

Youtu.be

Alizarine · 09-19-2014, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by ogl

Why? Where is the logics? I don't use zooms. Especially, slow zooms.
Do you really know that this zooms are good? How do you know it?

I think you will buy 16-85/3.5-5.6 instead of Tamron 17-50/2.8. Are you ready?

You don't use zooms and you complain about them? For one, I am hoping that this lens will be good, based on newer releases (e.g. DA20-40, which I found nice but too pricey). I've also seen how good the Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 is, so that means variable aperture does not necessarily equate to bad IQ. My lens choice is not limited to maximum aperture. If there will be any comparison, I'll wait for this new Pentax pitted against the SIgma 17-70 (C) and decide from there.

Where is the logic there, too? It's like traveling only by car and saying all trains are bad. Especially slow trains, then asking someone who rides trains how does he know a train ride can be good. Also, I already have the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 and it's my main workhorse lens. Maybe you can cut some slack on the negativity and be a little more objective with things.

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09-19-2014, 12:07 AM	#61
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Quicksand Notable is the lack of "sr" in that alphabet soup. I like that, but... what are all the buttons for then?

09-19-2014, 02:20 AM	#62
StigVidar Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 702	Originally posted by asahi man HD DFA* 70-200 / 2,8 ED AL (IF) SDM not the current SDM Is there any similar information about the other large lens?

09-19-2014, 02:41 AM	#63
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	The problem that Pentax stopped to develop new primes.

09-19-2014, 02:42 AM	#64
cxdoo Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Limassol, Cyprus Posts: 1,150	So did anyone get any further info on two unmarked zooms? Why are they still unmarked? What is still unclear - focal lengths or apertures or pretty much everything?

09-19-2014, 02:50 AM	#65
wed7 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,421	Everything😊

09-19-2014, 04:15 AM	#66
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by ogl The problem that Pentax stopped to develop new primes. You see that as a problem. I see it as a sign. The APS-C line of primes is quite complete (yes, I know we all have some pet focal length/aperture combos that we don't see covered, but still...). The primes they work on now should be for the upcoming FF camera, of course: They can easily cover "the middle ground" of primes with the three amigos, and for longer focal lengths they already have some primes that will work. But they quite urgently need some wider FF-compatilbe primes than the FA31 - as a minimum a fast 24 and a 18 or 20mm prime.

09-19-2014, 04:28 AM	#67
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	upcoming FF camera? is it such fantasy?

09-19-2014, 05:03 AM	#68
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Please Ricoh, make my wish come true. Let the large Zoom be a 135-540. Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaase. Make them all WR or Aw. Pleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaase.

09-19-2014, 05:08 AM	#69
StigVidar Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 702	Originally posted by totsmuyco Please Ricoh, make my wish come true. Let the large Zoom be a 135-540. Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaase. Make them all WR or Aw. Pleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaase. It could be 540mm, but after som measurements on the pictures shown it seems the front element is around 85mm. So if it is 540mm it has to be a f/6.3 lens.

09-19-2014, 06:49 AM	#70
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	Originally posted by ogl The problem that Pentax stopped to develop new primes. If Pentax made two new primes instead of two good zooms, I think you'd probably saay that the problem is that Pentax doesn't make good zooms.

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09-19-2014, 07:02 AM	#71
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Alizarine If Pentax made two new primes instead of two good zooms, I think you'd probably saay that the problem is that Pentax doesn't make good zooms. Why? Where is the logics? I don't use zooms. Especially, slow zooms. Do you really know that this zooms are good? How do you know it? I think you will buy 16-85/3.5-5.6 instead of Tamron 17-50/2.8. Are you ready?

09-19-2014, 07:16 AM	#72
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by ogl Why? Where is the logics? I don't use zooms. Especially, slow zooms. But those are what the market buys predominantly because most of the market buys on price and base functionality. Most people shoot f/4 and up for 99% of their photography. Catering to that dynamic is where the bulk of sales are by far, so all you are seeing is the supply meeting the demand.

09-19-2014, 07:20 AM	#73
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,032	Originally posted by ogl The problem that Pentax stopped to develop new primes. Don't see any problem man, you are in a "zoom lens" thread

09-19-2014, 02:59 PM	#75
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	Originally posted by ogl Why? Where is the logics? I don't use zooms. Especially, slow zooms. Do you really know that this zooms are good? How do you know it? I think you will buy 16-85/3.5-5.6 instead of Tamron 17-50/2.8. Are you ready? You don't use zooms and you complain about them? For one, I am hoping that this lens will be good, based on newer releases (e.g. DA20-40, which I found nice but too pricey). I've also seen how good the Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 is, so that means variable aperture does not necessarily equate to bad IQ. My lens choice is not limited to maximum aperture. If there will be any comparison, I'll wait for this new Pentax pitted against the SIgma 17-70 (C) and decide from there. Where is the logic there, too? It's like traveling only by car and saying all trains are bad. Especially slow trains, then asking someone who rides trains how does he know a train ride can be good. Also, I already have the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 and it's my main workhorse lens. Maybe you can cut some slack on the negativity and be a little more objective with things.