Photokina 2014: Ricoh confirm full frame camera is coming in 2015

Cynog Ap Brychan · 09-18-2014, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

(Who needs a tilting/rotating back LCD screen when you can look at the display of your camera, via your smart device at 20 meters distance?)

Agreed, if the camera is on a tripod or other support. When hand holding, the tilting screen is still useful for low shots, etc.

Clavius · 09-18-2014, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan

Agreed, if the camera is on a tripod or other support. When hand holding, the tilting screen is still useful for low shots, etc.

Yes indeed, although I would then prefer to just tilt the (E)VF upwards.

afan137 · 09-18-2014, 05:09 AM - **1 Like**

Development of Pentax Full-Frame DSLR is Officially Underway | PhotographyBLOG
Great news...

zapp · 09-18-2014, 05:28 AM

Pentax cannot put specs on lenses in the show cases (under development), but we get many pages of replies for a simple announcement.

Who cares?

Mistral75 · 09-18-2014, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by afan137

Development of Pentax Full-Frame DSLR is Officially Underway | PhotographyBLOG
Great news...

Thank you for the link. I love the end of the second sentence

"In an interview with Photography Blog, Ricoh's European Product Manager Laurence Bouly has confirmed that development of a Pentax full-frame DSLR camera is officially underway. No launch date has yet been set, but she said that the launch itself would be communicated through the usual formal channels, rather than Facebook (as Ricoh France did earlier this week)." (emphasis added)

**monochrome** · 09-18-2014, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan

Agreed, if the camera is on a tripod or other support. When hand holding, the tilting screen is still useful for low shots, etc.

The purpose of a hinged LCD is similar to the purpose of a Refconverter, for tripod, macro and low- or odd-angle work

Originally posted by Clavius

Yes indeed, although I would then prefer to just tilt the (E)VF upwards.

What is the purpose of a hinged EVF as opposed to a hinged OVF (assuming a hinged VF is even possible - perhaps substitute interchangeable)?

filorp · 09-18-2014, 06:24 AM

if they let the news to be spread we can be sure that next official announcement will be Pentax FF, deducting from FF lens development stage I would say... its going to happend in half year.

Mistral75 · 09-18-2014, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by filorp

if they let the news to be spread we can be sure that next official announcement will be Pentax FF, deducting from FF lens development stage I would say... its going to happend in half year.

More pieces of news (just) before CP+ (Yokohama, Japan, 12 to 15 February 2015).

Cynog Ap Brychan · 09-18-2014, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

What is the purpose of a hinged EVF as opposed to a hinged OVF (assuming a hinged VF is even possible - perhaps substitute interchangeable)?

It's possible - the Panasonic Lumix GX7 has one. I still prefer to use the tilting LCD for most things, though.

thibs · 09-18-2014, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

More pieces of news (just) before CP+ (Yokohama, Japan, 12 to 15 February 2015).

I'm sure you will (maybe I will too, dunno, depends on Thalys prices from Brussels) be at the Salon de la Photo in Paris ?

LeeRunge · 09-18-2014, 08:37 AM - **1 Like**

If all they do is develop a K-3 with a FF sensor in it it's still going to smoke the competition. Pentax has the best handling camera's and best features. Canon and Nikon are too concerned with limiting feature sets in their now large range of FF options so as to not cannibalize the higher end. Pentax will likely come out of the gate with no feature held back.

Hopefully they refresh some of the lenses of past years and give us a good range at launch.

Mistral75 · 09-18-2014, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by thibs

I'm sure you will (maybe I will too, dunno, depends on Thalys prices from Brussels) be at the Salon de la Photo in Paris ?

I presume so.

I'll bring some coarse salt and a goat and will use them on Yazid until he spills the beans.

GibbyTheMole · 09-18-2014, 08:45 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by LeeRunge

If all they do is develop a K-3 with a FF sensor in it it's still going to smoke the competition. Pentax has the best handling camera's and best features. Canon and Nikon are too concerned with limiting feature sets in their now large range of FF options so as to not cannibalize the higher end. Pentax will likely come out of the gate with no feature held back.

I agree. I think that's the way for them to go. Retain all the good traits that make it a Pentax. Getting it in the hands of some pros wouldn't hurt, either.

redrockcoulee · 09-18-2014, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I remember that you had told us to wait and we would see the outstanding products from Ricoh. Where is such product?

To get rid of means loss of money. Don't you think so? Or maybe you are millionaire?

My Pentax gear are used and I can sell all with price 30-50% lower than I had bought.
K200D, for example, costs almost nothing. I had bought it for USD800 and can sell for USD150 now.

So those who bought a Nikon D1X for 6 grand would loose just about the same percentage of their cost and so would those who bought a D100 or D50.

And I would love to buy DA lenses for 30% of the original price

Zygonyx · 09-18-2014, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Thank you for the link. I love the end of the second sentence

"In an interview with Photography Blog, Ricoh's European Product Manager Laurence Bouly has confirmed that development of a Pentax full-frame DSLR camera is officially underway. No launch date has yet been set, but she said that the launch itself would be communicated through the usual formal channels, rather than Facebook (as Ricoh France did earlier this week)." (emphasis added)

Here can we see the holly interest of FB as a communication medium.

No scoop, no news.

09-18-2014, 08:40 AM	#297
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by thibs I'm sure you will (maybe I will too, dunno, depends on Thalys prices from Brussels) be at the Salon de la Photo in Paris ? I presume so. I'll bring some coarse salt and a goat and will use them on Yazid until he spills the beans. Last edited by Mistral75; 09-18-2014 at 08:48 AM.

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09-18-2014, 04:34 AM	#286
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by Clavius (Who needs a tilting/rotating back LCD screen when you can look at the display of your camera, via your smart device at 20 meters distance?) Agreed, if the camera is on a tripod or other support. When hand holding, the tilting screen is still useful for low shots, etc.

09-18-2014, 04:48 AM	#287
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan Agreed, if the camera is on a tripod or other support. When hand holding, the tilting screen is still useful for low shots, etc. Yes indeed, although I would then prefer to just tilt the (E)VF upwards.

09-18-2014, 05:09 AM - 1 Like	#288
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	Development of Pentax Full-Frame DSLR is Officially Underway \| PhotographyBLOG Great news...

09-18-2014, 05:28 AM	#289
zapp Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,385	Pentax cannot put specs on lenses in the show cases (under development), but we get many pages of replies for a simple announcement. Who cares?

09-18-2014, 06:09 AM	#290
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by afan137 Development of Pentax Full-Frame DSLR is Officially Underway \| PhotographyBLOG Great news... Thank you for the link. I love the end of the second sentence "In an interview with Photography Blog, Ricoh's European Product Manager Laurence Bouly has confirmed that development of a Pentax full-frame DSLR camera is officially underway. No launch date has yet been set, but she said that the launch itself would be communicated through the usual formal channels, rather than Facebook (as Ricoh France did earlier this week)." (emphasis added)

09-18-2014, 06:16 AM	#291
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan Agreed, if the camera is on a tripod or other support. When hand holding, the tilting screen is still useful for low shots, etc. The purpose of a hinged LCD is similar to the purpose of a Refconverter, for tripod, macro and low- or odd-angle work Originally posted by Clavius Yes indeed, although I would then prefer to just tilt the (E)VF upwards. What is the purpose of a hinged EVF as opposed to a hinged OVF (assuming a hinged VF is even possible - perhaps substitute interchangeable)?

09-18-2014, 06:24 AM	#292
filorp Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Aberdeen Scotland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 398	if they let the news to be spread we can be sure that next official announcement will be Pentax FF, deducting from FF lens development stage I would say... its going to happend in half year.

09-18-2014, 06:54 AM	#293
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by filorp if they let the news to be spread we can be sure that next official announcement will be Pentax FF, deducting from FF lens development stage I would say... its going to happend in half year. More pieces of news (just) before CP+ (Yokohama, Japan, 12 to 15 February 2015).

09-18-2014, 07:48 AM	#294
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by monochrome What is the purpose of a hinged EVF as opposed to a hinged OVF (assuming a hinged VF is even possible - perhaps substitute interchangeable)? It's possible - the Panasonic Lumix GX7 has one. I still prefer to use the tilting LCD for most things, though.

09-18-2014, 08:35 AM	#295
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Mistral75 More pieces of news (just) before CP+ (Yokohama, Japan, 12 to 15 February 2015). I'm sure you will (maybe I will too, dunno, depends on Thalys prices from Brussels) be at the Salon de la Photo in Paris ?

09-18-2014, 08:37 AM - 1 Like	#296
LeeRunge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 993	If all they do is develop a K-3 with a FF sensor in it it's still going to smoke the competition. Pentax has the best handling camera's and best features. Canon and Nikon are too concerned with limiting feature sets in their now large range of FF options so as to not cannibalize the higher end. Pentax will likely come out of the gate with no feature held back. Hopefully they refresh some of the lenses of past years and give us a good range at launch.

09-18-2014, 08:45 AM - 1 Like	#298
GibbyTheMole Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Iowa Photos: Albums Posts: 2,275	Originally posted by LeeRunge If all they do is develop a K-3 with a FF sensor in it it's still going to smoke the competition. Pentax has the best handling camera's and best features. Canon and Nikon are too concerned with limiting feature sets in their now large range of FF options so as to not cannibalize the higher end. Pentax will likely come out of the gate with no feature held back. I agree. I think that's the way for them to go. Retain all the good traits that make it a Pentax. Getting it in the hands of some pros wouldn't hurt, either.

09-18-2014, 09:15 AM	#299
redrockcoulee Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Medicine Hat Posts: 2,306	Originally posted by ogl I remember that you had told us to wait and we would see the outstanding products from Ricoh. Where is such product? To get rid of means loss of money. Don't you think so? Or maybe you are millionaire? My Pentax gear are used and I can sell all with price 30-50% lower than I had bought. K200D, for example, costs almost nothing. I had bought it for USD800 and can sell for USD150 now. So those who bought a Nikon D1X for 6 grand would loose just about the same percentage of their cost and so would those who bought a D100 or D50. And I would love to buy DA lenses for 30% of the original price

09-18-2014, 09:26 AM	#300
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by Mistral75 Thank you for the link. I love the end of the second sentence "In an interview with Photography Blog, Ricoh's European Product Manager Laurence Bouly has confirmed that development of a Pentax full-frame DSLR camera is officially underway. No launch date has yet been set, but she said that the launch itself would be communicated through the usual formal channels, rather than Facebook (as Ricoh France did earlier this week)." (emphasis added) Here can we see the holly interest of FB as a communication medium. No scoop, no news.