Photokina 2014: Ricoh confirm full frame camera is coming in 2015

Mistral75 · 11-16-2014, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by ZeljkoS

Thank you for some on-topic info.

My pleasure - I'm the OP

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**monochrome** · 11-16-2014, 09:56 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Mistral75

My pleasure - I'm the OP

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Cross-posted: We have reached the nihilist extreme wherein truth becomes rebellion.

normhead · 11-16-2014, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

Cross-posted: We have reached the nihilist extreme wherein truth becomes rebellion.

Hasn't that always been true....?

**RobA_Oz** · 11-16-2014, 01:50 PM

Truth denies faith, one of which vanishes in a puff of logic, or something…

Apologies to Douglas Adams (not to mention the Babelfish).

Last edited by RobA_Oz; 11-16-2014 at 02:24 PM.

Zygonyx · 11-16-2014, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Cross-posted: We have reached the nihilist extreme wherein truth becomes rebellion.

Excellent !
If not revolution

tebe2hu · 11-18-2014, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

This is the report from Photokina made by 'Le Monde de la Photo' ('The World of Photo', both a magazine and a website):

Ricoh : le plein format arrive - Le Monde de la Photo

A few excerpts:

"Ricoh : le plein format arrive…

C’est désormais officiel : il y a aura bien un boîtier plein format chez Ricoh Imaging. Il faudra patienter jusqu’à l’année prochaine, le projet étant en cours de développement.

(...)

Ricoh reconnaît officiellement qu’un projet est en cours de développement et qu’il sera dévoilé l’an prochain, sans préciser de période pour l’instant."

which, once translated into English, reads:

"Ricoh: the full frame [camera] is coming...

It's now official: there will be a full frame camera from Ricoh Imaging. You will have to wait until next year, the project being under development.

(...)

Ricoh officially recognize that a project is under development and will be unveiled next year, without specifying a time frame for now."

I am very much looking forward to CP+!!!

Je l'attende avec de curiosité :-)

goubejp · 11-18-2014, 01:56 AM

Well french is a subtle language. What will you see next year ? A prototype or the commercial launch ? It doesn't say.

thibs · 11-18-2014, 01:58 AM

Originally posted by goubejp

Well french is a subtle language. What will you see next year ? A prototype or the commercial launch ? It doesn't say.

It doesn't but it would make no sense to let pressure go up and then showing a simple prototype.
They may show prototype (I think not though) but the cam should show up in 2015.

ZeljkoS · 11-18-2014, 02:16 AM

There are some great new sensors from Sony, I think we'll see some amazing features in this new FF camera.

Na Horuk · 11-18-2014, 02:28 AM

Well "next year" is still some months away.. or maybe they meant the business year? Or "year" according to an ancient Mayan calendar! Its nice to hear that Ricoh might actually produce an FF, but it will be difficult to withstand all the made up rumours and pent up frustration in the meantime

rawr · 11-18-2014, 02:48 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Na Horuk

...maybe they meant the business year? Or "year" according to an ancient Mayan calendar!

Or a light year

**Rondec** · 11-18-2014, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by Na Horuk

Well "next year" is still some months away.. or maybe they meant the business year? Or "year" according to an ancient Mayan calendar! Its nice to hear that Ricoh might actually produce an FF, but it will be difficult to withstand all the made up rumours and pent up frustration in the meantime

My guess would be late spring/early summer. But it is just a guess. We'll see it when/if it comes, but I don't expect a lot of folks to be happy. For one thing, the price will be too high, for another thing, it won't be mirrorless with an EVF and the list of complaints will go on.

ZeljkoS · 11-18-2014, 04:19 AM

I got an impression that people prefer normal pentaprism to EVF? Something about a more natural feeling and being able to track fast movement while shooting bursts

**Rondec** · 11-18-2014, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by ZeljkoS

I got an impression that people prefer normal pentaprism to EVF? Something about a more natural feeling and being able to track fast movement while shooting bursts

It depends on who you listen to. There is a group of folks that feel that EVFs are the wave of the future -- they have focusing aids built in, you can see more clearly in dark situations. There is another group of more traditional photographers that feel that EVFs waste battery life and that the lag they have makes them not usable.

I don't really care that much, although I do get some eye strain when I use an EVF for too long. But I think it is clear that Pentax is going to keep the K mount and use an optical viewfinder.

My point was more about the fact that people on the forum are never satisfied. There is always room to complain.

Dr Orloff · 11-18-2014, 05:04 AM

Well plenty of rumours coming out of the Salon de la Photo in Paris. The French seem to like spilling the beans, but we shall see. If they are correct it won't be long now. Little sense in adding much though to a thread that is unreadable. If one is coming we'll know soon, if one isn't we'll know soon as well. Better just to go and take some photos with whatver you have right now, n'est-ce pas?

11-18-2014, 02:28 AM	#535
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Well "next year" is still some months away.. or maybe they meant the business year? Or "year" according to an ancient Mayan calendar! Its nice to hear that Ricoh might actually produce an FF, but it will be difficult to withstand all the made up rumours and pent up frustration in the meantime Last edited by Na Horuk; 11-18-2014 at 02:49 AM.

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11-16-2014, 07:28 AM	#526
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by ZeljkoS Thank you for some on-topic info. My pleasure - I'm the OP .

11-16-2014, 09:56 AM - 2 Likes	#527
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Mistral75 My pleasure - I'm the OP . Cross-posted: We have reached the nihilist extreme wherein truth becomes rebellion.

11-16-2014, 09:58 AM	#528
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by monochrome Cross-posted: We have reached the nihilist extreme wherein truth becomes rebellion. Hasn't that always been true....?

11-16-2014, 01:50 PM	#529
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Truth denies faith, one of which vanishes in a puff of logic, or something… Apologies to Douglas Adams (not to mention the Babelfish). Last edited by RobA_Oz; 11-16-2014 at 02:24 PM.

11-16-2014, 02:42 PM	#530
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by monochrome Cross-posted: We have reached the nihilist extreme wherein truth becomes rebellion. Excellent ! If not revolution

11-18-2014, 01:28 AM	#531
tebe2hu New Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 7	Originally posted by Mistral75 This is the report from Photokina made by 'Le Monde de la Photo' ('The World of Photo', both a magazine and a website): Ricoh : le plein format arrive - Le Monde de la Photo A few excerpts: "Ricoh : le plein format arrive… C’est désormais officiel : il y a aura bien un boîtier plein format chez Ricoh Imaging. Il faudra patienter jusqu’à l’année prochaine, le projet étant en cours de développement. (...) Ricoh reconnaît officiellement qu’un projet est en cours de développement et qu’il sera dévoilé l’an prochain, sans préciser de période pour l’instant." which, once translated into English, reads: "Ricoh: the full frame [camera] is coming... It's now official: there will be a full frame camera from Ricoh Imaging. You will have to wait until next year, the project being under development. (...) Ricoh officially recognize that a project is under development and will be unveiled next year, without specifying a time frame for now." I am very much looking forward to CP+!!! Je l'attende avec de curiosité :-)

11-18-2014, 01:56 AM	#532
goubejp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: France Photos: Albums Posts: 804	Well french is a subtle language. What will you see next year ? A prototype or the commercial launch ? It doesn't say.

11-18-2014, 01:58 AM	#533
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by goubejp Well french is a subtle language. What will you see next year ? A prototype or the commercial launch ? It doesn't say. It doesn't but it would make no sense to let pressure go up and then showing a simple prototype. They may show prototype (I think not though) but the cam should show up in 2015.

11-18-2014, 02:16 AM	#534
ZeljkoS Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 421	There are some great new sensors from Sony, I think we'll see some amazing features in this new FF camera.

11-18-2014, 02:48 AM - 1 Like	#536
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Na Horuk ...maybe they meant the business year? Or "year" according to an ancient Mayan calendar! Or a light year

11-18-2014, 03:53 AM	#537
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Na Horuk Well "next year" is still some months away.. or maybe they meant the business year? Or "year" according to an ancient Mayan calendar! Its nice to hear that Ricoh might actually produce an FF, but it will be difficult to withstand all the made up rumours and pent up frustration in the meantime My guess would be late spring/early summer. But it is just a guess. We'll see it when/if it comes, but I don't expect a lot of folks to be happy. For one thing, the price will be too high, for another thing, it won't be mirrorless with an EVF and the list of complaints will go on.

11-18-2014, 04:19 AM	#538
ZeljkoS Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 421	I got an impression that people prefer normal pentaprism to EVF? Something about a more natural feeling and being able to track fast movement while shooting bursts

11-18-2014, 04:26 AM	#539
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by ZeljkoS I got an impression that people prefer normal pentaprism to EVF? Something about a more natural feeling and being able to track fast movement while shooting bursts It depends on who you listen to. There is a group of folks that feel that EVFs are the wave of the future -- they have focusing aids built in, you can see more clearly in dark situations. There is another group of more traditional photographers that feel that EVFs waste battery life and that the lag they have makes them not usable. I don't really care that much, although I do get some eye strain when I use an EVF for too long. But I think it is clear that Pentax is going to keep the K mount and use an optical viewfinder. My point was more about the fact that people on the forum are never satisfied. There is always room to complain.

11-18-2014, 05:04 AM	#540
Dr Orloff Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Brighton, England Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 512	Well plenty of rumours coming out of the Salon de la Photo in Paris. The French seem to like spilling the beans, but we shall see. If they are correct it won't be long now. Little sense in adding much though to a thread that is unreadable. If one is coming we'll know soon, if one isn't we'll know soon as well. Better just to go and take some photos with whatver you have right now, n'est-ce pas?