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09-18-2014, 09:06 PM - 1 Like   #16
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bobdobbs, you should be totally sympathetic towards slackers like Ricoh.

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09-18-2014, 09:11 PM   #17
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D750
I wanted the D700 for a long time and the D750 has definite allure with where it's sitting in specs and price, but me and my Three Amigos have all eyes fixed on the horizon at this point.
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bobdobbs, you should be totally sympathetic towards slackers like Ricoh.

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I've written to Ricoh HQ, Japan, and have received an affirmative reply, very recently. So, sorry, my comments are not just wishful thinking.
Could you please share with us their reply ?

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Of course Pentax engineers are working on a full frame camera, but will they ever release one and, if so, how soon? That's the question. Out of the nine major camera manufacturers four produce full frame. Why don't the others? Who knows? Perhaps they don't see sufficient demand to warrant going into production, Perhaps they are keeping their powder dry and like Pentax are "developing" a full frame camera. Ricoh has said that it will "study market conditions" before deciding whether to produce an FF camera, which might mean anything. I hope they do, but more than that, I hope their business strategy ensures that Pentax cameras will be made long after I am gone.
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Of course Pentax engineers are working on a full frame camera, but will they ever release one and, if so, how soon? That's the question. Out of the nine major camera manufacturers four produce full frame. Why don't the others? Who knows? Perhaps they don't see sufficient demand to warrant going into production, Perhaps they are keeping their powder dry and like Pentax are "developing" a full frame camera. Ricoh has said that it will "study market conditions" before deciding whether to produce an FF camera, which might mean anything. I hope they do, but more than that, I hope their business strategy ensures that Pentax cameras will be made long after I am gone.
What has changed as far as I can tell, is they have gone from deciding whether to produce a FF camera, they have, to deciding when to release it. If you look at recent releases, it makes economic sense to delay a FF launch till the new year.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan Quote
Of course Pentax engineers are working on a full frame camera, but will they ever release one and, if so, how soon? That's the question. Out of the nine major camera manufacturers four produce full frame. Why don't the others? Who knows? Perhaps they don't see sufficient demand to warrant going into production, Perhaps they are keeping their powder dry and like Pentax are "developing" a full frame camera. Ricoh has said that it will "study market conditions" before deciding whether to produce an FF camera, which might mean anything. I hope they do, but more than that, I hope their business strategy ensures that Pentax cameras will be made long after I am gone.
Canon, Nikon, Sony, Leica - produce
Olympus and Panasonic - the system is 100% crop-system.
Sigma - it could I think, but FOVEON is too expensive and it's enough to have APS-C FOVEON cameras at the market.
Sigma is rather marginal player on camera market.
Samsung - crop system and APS-C lenses.
Fuji is the same as Samsung.

Only Pentax has FF lenses in production and has no FF camera.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan Quote
Of course Pentax engineers are working on a full frame camera, but will they ever release one and, if so, how soon? That's the question. Out of the nine major camera manufacturers four produce full frame. Why don't the others? Who knows? Perhaps they don't see sufficient demand to warrant going into production, Perhaps they are keeping their powder dry and like Pentax are "developing" a full frame camera. Ricoh has said that it will "study market conditions" before deciding whether to produce an FF camera, which might mean anything. I hope they do, but more than that, I hope their business strategy ensures that Pentax cameras will be made long after I am gone.
"Study market conditions" means exactly what it says. Each corporation must build a business case for a product in development prior to release to manufacturing. The efforts by Pentax personnel to build a solid enough business case for a FF body by Pentax have never been convincing enough to give the product a green light. That's the only reason that there has not been one to date, and no words written in these forums will ever change that or affect the decision in any way. That's my first and last post on this topic.

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I interpret "study market conditions" as "see how much longer we can milk our current products".

But that's just me.
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They couldn't even provide lenses with marking on them. Apparently they are not very close to production.
Of course they could. They did not for obvious reasons.
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blablabla... That's been "confirmed" for years now. Still waiting...
Dude . . . .. that attitude is so yesterday.
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Of course Pentax engineers are working on a full frame camera, but will they ever release one and, if so, how soon? . . . . snip
Within nine months.
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I have to say, all the little leaks are working on me. I stopped by my local friendly camera store today, just to "feel" a Nikon D610 and a Sony A7, and I have to say neither of them sucked. I wouldn't buy a D610, since the D750 is just around the corner, but the Sony is tempting considering I could mount Pentax-M glass on it, it's tiny, fast, and has a really nice EVF.
But you know that Pentax FF is going to set you back at least $2000,- if not more. While you can also get a nice deal on that tiny Sony A7 for $1,399 on eBay US (Click here). You can get a nice small FE prime for what you save there.
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... "nice small FE prime".... how many with decent IQ ?
Pentax FF speculation : no date, no price... are you nostradamus ?

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... "nice small FE prime".... how many with decent IQ ?
Zeiss Sonnar FE 35/2.8 comes to mind.
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