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10-27-2014, 04:40 AM   #676
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QuoteOriginally posted by mecrox Quote
For every buyer attracted by the sticky delights of the Sweets Collection, another user might despair of the direction Pentax is taking and buy their next higher-level offering from another brand, so it's not all win-win.
If it's a "higher-level offering" they want, can't they just buy a black, classic-shaped K-3?
Those who'd do that already made up their mind, and they're just looking at some random excuse. Or they're listening to FUD.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
If it's a "higher-level offering" they want, can't they just buy a black, classic-shaped K-3?
Those who'd do that already made up their mind, and they're just looking at some random excuse. Or they're listening to FUD.
But it's not about that. I's about Pentax users who want all black or conservative cameras complaining that those who would buy colours can get what they want. To my mind, I don't understand why I can't get my K-3 in that K-30 blue? Why because I want a technically advanced camera, have to put up with the tastes of these fashion neanderthals? Who made them the gods of the market. And why do they whine and cry like babies when their "I've got a pickle up my butt" opinions aren't respected.

The whole thing is an example. Some want power to live as they please, some want power over. No joy in their own life, but lots of vim and vigour put towards making sure no one else has any joy in theirs either. If the colour of your camera doesn't bring you any joy, god forbid someone else should be getting any from theirs. What a bunch of puritans.
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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
I's about Pentax users who want all black or conservative cameras complaining that those who would buy colours can get what they want.
It isn't just Pentax users.

Yesterday at the frozen custard stand some dude toting a T3 told me my silver FA43 looked amateurish on my K-3.
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It isn't just Pentax users.

Yesterday at the frozen custard stand some dude toting a T3 told me my silver FA43 looked amateurish on my K-3.
That's why I never go to the frozen custard stand. I hate dudes toting Ti3s.

Living in Whitney, I have to ask for a picture of the frozen custard stand. We don't have such novelties.

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Living in Whitney, I have to ask for a picture of the frozen custard stand. We don't have such novelties.
Here's a photo of the product*. I'll have to work on one of the actual stand.



*
  1. Chocolate Malted Custard with Pistachios
  2. Mocha Custard with crushed Heath Bar
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Here's a photo of the product*. I'll have to work on one of the actual stand.



*
  1. Chocolate Malted Custard with Pistachios
  2. Mocha Custard with crushed Heath Bar
Whoa, mind blowing stuff there.
Reminds me of a few years ago when a couple of new Russian immigrants a doctor and a dentist, were helping me move. They had a truck and had to keep busy with odd jobs while working on their North American qualifications. A Mr. Freezie truck came by and I bought them both slushies. They both had a sip and one said "Wow this is special drink." Now that I'm in Whitney I feel a bit like that sometimes. Things happen out in the world I know nothing about.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Here's a photo of the product*. I'll have to work on one of the actual stand.



*
  1. Chocolate Malted Custard with Pistachios
  2. Mocha Custard with crushed Heath Bar
#5 Reason for missing St Louis is the frozen custard
(I love Doozles in Florissant as well)

#1 is the free St Louis zoo, which rivals any zoo that you have to pay for, and this is coming from someone that had an annual pass to the San Diego Zoo.
#2 is the Missouri Botanical Garden
#3 Free museums in Forest Park
#4 Pappys Smoke House
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Whoa, mind blowing stuff there.
It's like real french ice cream on steroids - super smooth and creamy.

FWIW, many a young person has been able to attend college because the owner offers to pay any tuition shortfall for his loyal employees. There are some conditions, but the Drewes family is very, very generous.

QuoteOriginally posted by cali92rs Quote
(I love Doozles in Florissant as well)
Haven't had that - but I live South!

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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Here's a photo of the product*. I'll have to work on one of the actual stand.



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  1. Chocolate Malted Custard with Pistachios
  2. Mocha Custard with crushed Heath Bar
Never heard of "Frozen Custard"! Sounds interesting. Although, "crushed Health Bar" does not sound like something I'll order!
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We are so awesome at digression, it's difficult to actually comprehend sometimes, "now wait, half a page ago, he said... and I said..." but really, it's all about the frozen custard. That's where the universe was steering us.
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I hope you are right.

I still don't understand why K-S1 has been so unknown yet - it is virtually not seable in the traditionnal big labels in France (Fnac, Boulanger, ...) an only available there on order...

I still either don't understand the tremondously high price of the Fuji X-T1, more than one year after its release... and the continuous hype this EVIL seems to have amongst enthusiasts and medias...
'cos the K-S1 is essentially a japanese product.

As for X-T1 it is the first proper mirrorless cam (yes, almost as big as a dslr... ironic huh ?)
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.. The argument has been that the K-S1 is not really intended for Western markets but in that case why is head office pushing out what must be a very similar marketing approach to us as to Asia and Japan. ...
Latest marketing flop, with horridly photoshopped image of a young woman holding a minuscule K-S1, speaks volumes.

There obviously was not any marketing material for the K-S1 done, especially containing:
A. summer time and bright sunshine (as opposed to snowy and stormy weather to advertise ruggedness of the K-3),
B. some idea about what that camera can be used for and what it was designed for.

There was no marketing ideas prepared in terms to what exact audience and what exact messages K-S1 should deliver.

Here is the stock photo used:


And here is the result. The result was amateurish execution in forced conclusion about the use of K-S1. And the good providence enabled us to see what they have done in the process and what the company thinks about its users.

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'cos the K-S1 is essentially a japanese product.
OK then why this...
Digital SLR Cameras - Nikon D5100, Canon Rebel | Henry's Camera - Henry's best camera store in Canada

Or this...

NEW HD PENTAX DA 560mm F 5.6 ED AW LENS SUPER-TELEPHOTO WEATHER-RESISTANT items in Prodigital2000 store on eBay!

Seem there are lots of KS-1s in Canada... so why is it essentially a Japanese product.
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Perhaps the Product Story can give us a hint? They don't say specifically if they're target (or not) a certain geographical area, though...
Development Story?K-S1 | RICOH IMAGING
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Whatever. From Clackers' samples on the other thread it looks like a really competent camera in its own right and the sensor appears to be very capable. From the interviews with the Product Engineer Ricoh seems to have done a lot of work miniaturizing things, and changing the interface was a technological challenge. There's really a lot of typical Pentax magic in the camera - the stuff we're accustomed to seeing in the groundbreaking cameras like the K10D and K-3. We keep thinking this is a 'lightweight' (and I don't mean light) camera for iPhone users when in reality it's a pretty darned good camera. We should think of it as a K-x replacement - tiny and good!
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