What Pentax didn't do at Photokina...

**GlassJunkie** · 09-25-2014, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

He he, interchangeable backs, focusing screens, built-in waist level and eye-level finders

Pentax 24x36 digital = hybrid of Rollei SL 2000F / SL 3003 and Pentax LX

?

"a (...) modular approach (...) that would use K lenses, with mirrorless, apsc and FF modules that could be changed" = that was the essence of the Ace (mount) project.

Waist level goes-bye bye with tilting LCD screens.... I must admit, that the ergonomics on an adjustable tilt grip (attachable rt or left) would help ergonomics (tilt back)... It wouldn't need to be as thick as 3003, more like 1/2 as deep as 645z.... If not modular sensors, ok gets even thinner (thick as a MZS front-to-back for mirror box) still less than half of a 645....

**monochrome** · 09-25-2014, 11:06 AM

Cool ideas but you have to sell it around $2700 and make a profit at the factory and a high profit margin in the retail channel.

thibs · 09-25-2014, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by GlassJunkie

Waist level goes-bye bye with tilting LCD screens....

Actually it does not because (stupidly), in these cases (that I know of) you can't reverse the image left-right and however strange (no.. stupid is a better description) it may seem, the left-right inversion is a feature.
It is an essential part of the waist-level finder.

Call me crazy if you want

**GlassJunkie** · 09-25-2014, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by thibs

Actually it does not because (stupidly), in these cases (that I know of) you can't reverse the image left-right and however strange (no.. stupid is a better description) it may seem, the left-right inversion is a feature.
It is an essential part of the waist-level finder.

Call me crazy if you want

I just never used it. I was so "linear" in my thinking, I always bought prisms on my MF rigs, if it was not OEM (Pentax/Mamiya 6445/n/ds...

thibs · 09-26-2014, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by GlassJunkie

I just never used it. I was so "linear" in my thinking, I always bought prisms on my MF rigs, if it was not OEM (Pentax/Mamiya 6445/n/ds...

Yep, I l know what you mean. I takes lots of efforts at first and even used to, it asks for concentration.
But (and that is priceless to me) it allows me to see things differently. My eye is less catched with people and more sensible to figures, lines.
It is hell of a lot easier to me for abstract subjects or when composition includes e.g. buildings.

The up/down though (with my 4x5 outfit) is very annoying to me.

09-25-2014, 10:18 AM	#91
GlassJunkie Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: St Petersburg Photos: Albums Posts: 402	THX for drudging up the pic :) Originally posted by Mistral75 He he, interchangeable backs, focusing screens, built-in waist level and eye-level finders Pentax 24x36 digital = hybrid of Rollei SL 2000F / SL 3003 and Pentax LX ? "a (...) modular approach (...) that would use K lenses, with mirrorless, apsc and FF modules that could be changed" = that was the essence of the Ace (mount) project. Waist level goes-bye bye with tilting LCD screens.... I must admit, that the ergonomics on an adjustable tilt grip (attachable rt or left) would help ergonomics (tilt back)... It wouldn't need to be as thick as 3003, more like 1/2 as deep as 645z.... If not modular sensors, ok gets even thinner (thick as a MZS front-to-back for mirror box) still less than half of a 645....

09-25-2014, 12:55 PM	#94
GlassJunkie Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: St Petersburg Photos: Albums Posts: 402	Agreed on WL Left/Right as a feature... Originally posted by thibs Actually it does not because (stupidly), in these cases (that I know of) you can't reverse the image left-right and however strange (no.. stupid is a better description) it may seem, the left-right inversion is a feature. It is an essential part of the waist-level finder. Call me crazy if you want I just never used it. I was so "linear" in my thinking, I always bought prisms on my MF rigs, if it was not OEM (Pentax/Mamiya 6445/n/ds...

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09-25-2014, 11:06 AM	#92
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Cool ideas but you have to sell it around $2700 and make a profit at the factory and a high profit margin in the retail channel.

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thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by GlassJunkie Waist level goes-bye bye with tilting LCD screens.... Actually it does not because (stupidly), in these cases (that I know of) you can't reverse the image left-right and however strange (no.. stupid is a better description) it may seem, the left-right inversion is a feature. It is an essential part of the waist-level finder. Call me crazy if you want

09-26-2014, 03:15 AM	#95
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by GlassJunkie I just never used it. I was so "linear" in my thinking, I always bought prisms on my MF rigs, if it was not OEM (Pentax/Mamiya 6445/n/ds... Yep, I l know what you mean. I takes lots of efforts at first and even used to, it asks for concentration. But (and that is priceless to me) it allows me to see things differently. My eye is less catched with people and more sensible to figures, lines. It is hell of a lot easier to me for abstract subjects or when composition includes e.g. buildings. The up/down though (with my 4x5 outfit) is very annoying to me.

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