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09-04-2015, 05:38 AM   #166
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No clue yet about WR, this may be ok to add this with the "same basics".

09-04-2015, 06:56 AM   #167
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When the FF camera gets launched I guess it will be launched together with 2-5 new FF lenses and an ambitious FF lens roadmap for 2016.
09-04-2015, 09:14 PM   #168
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He was referring to the DA 200mm f2.8, not the Limiteds

"Pop photo mentioned the DA* 200/2.8 had a new rear element for digital when they reviewed it some time back. Perhaps Pentax might do this also with the FA limiteds - is just a guess. People typically think the above DA* 200/2.8 is exactly the same as the FA 200/2.8 glasswise."

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09-13-2015, 10:30 AM   #169
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
I was browsing through the rangefinder forum when I happened upon this statement. I't seems pure conjecture at this point, but one can hope. Regardless 2015 it's going to be an exciting year for Pentax.

"The FF is coming in 2015, in testing now. There will be a whole new line up of lens to accompany it, including new Limited. My friend is an engineer of Ricoh Japan."

original posting: Ricoh Confirms Plans for "Full Frame" Pentax DSLR - Page 2 - Rangefinderforum.com
This is not funny anymore. Pentax may want to switch name to "waiting" or "expecteing" quite soon.

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I hope that the FF is released with the 24-70. This will be my lens of choice considering that I shoot landscape. But it will be interesting to see if they go wider with a prime....very interesting
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Did Ricoh Imaging break some promise? Nope; it's exactly as they said: they are releasing a FF product line, started in spring with the 150-450mm and the first camera is expected before the end of the year. There's nothing outrageous about that considering they couldn't start before 2012 (for why is that, ask Hoya).
Then, why are you angry at them?
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I think anxious is the word, not angry. People are just getting over excited that's all. It's going to be exciting times ahead and everyone's getting desperate. Guys, hopefully in a fortnights times we'll have some concrete news that we can play with and we can all calm down and enjoy the release. I said, hopefully, cause really who even knows if the rumors are real or not. We could have to wait longer
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This would help explain the persistent lower prices for them now...

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QuoteOriginally posted by zapp Quote
This is not funny anymore. Pentax may want to switch name to "waiting" or "expecteing" quite soon.
You do realize you are quoting a year old post don't you? 21-09-14, 17:13
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
You do realize you are quoting a year old post don't you? 21-09-14, 17:13
This is a standard troll tactic even if the OP is not that in fact. We need to be careful not to carelessly engage in feeding.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mikesul Quote
This is a standard troll tactic even if the OP is not that in fact. We need to be careful not to carelessly engage in feeding.
True but sometimes it is so hard
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
You do realize you are quoting a year old post don't you? 21-09-14, 17:13
Doesn't that only validate his point more?
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No, since last year things have been seen in progress, facts according to Ricoh's official communication.
That reminder is pointless until end of 2015, if and only if there's no FF release in the meantime.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
Doesn't that only validate his point more?
His point being that Ricoh will never make a ff and making fools of all of us. Sure if you want to believe that go ahead. I mean we want the FF now Ricoh. Give it to us. Not in month NOW! or we will move to Canonisony!
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The last thing on earth the Limiteds need IMHO is DC autofocus. Why? Because their strong suit is not just the image quality but also their lightness and compactness. You ruin that if you put the AF motor inside the lens body. HD and WR, on the other hand, are worth having in an upgrade - even if it's only a gasket on the mount to protect the camera's integrity, because I'm not sure true WR is achievable on a lens with an aperture ring (though I'd be delighted to be proved wrong).

Overall, I fear that the aperture ring is a thing of the past. Happy are the Pentax film shooters who have a camera with electronic modes that can work with ringless lenses, even if it's only a humble P3. Some sort of glassed adaptor with mechanical stop-down will be required if we want full back-compatibility from now on.
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