Rumor: Pentax FF new Limited lenses coming soon?

**monochrome** · 09-22-2014, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Yep

Samyang's there for that but no Limited though.
And those DFA's prototype do not have aperture rings either.

I intend to be very thoughtful about what high quality lenses I sell for the next year or so.

Last edited by monochrome; 09-22-2014 at 11:01 AM.

Wired · 09-22-2014, 12:58 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Stavri

The DA* 55mm f1.4 (a.k.a the aps-c redesign of the FA 85mm f1.4), encompasses most of the design elements that future D-Fa lenses might exhibit, (No A-ring, SMD/DC, WR, (+ better coating)) If they happen to introduce a new Limited, it's probably going to be an wide or uwa lens.

I'd be okay with that.

If everythings true (and I do believe they are) I would hope for my 2015-16 camera kit to consist of:

Pentax 35mm digital
16mm f4 UWA prime
24mm f2.8 Wide prime
31mm f1.8 Limited prime
43mm f1.9 Limited Prime
55mm f1.4 (DA*)
77mm f1.8 Limited Prime
24-70 f2.8 Zoom
70-200 f2.8 zoom

Granted I would probably only ever use the two zooms, 55, and 77.....

Even just to use the three limiteds and the 55 DA* on a 35mm format digital would be heavenly.

lytrytyr · 09-22-2014, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by thibs

Well, new Lmiteds may just only be HD DC WR versions (not that I would be unhappy).

Like the DA 20-40 Limited as an HD DC WR version of the FA 20-35,
although in that case the switch to APS-C only and using modern glasses
has made more of a difference.

yorik · 09-26-2014, 03:21 PM - **1 Like**

Apropos the `new limited' part of the post... I just noticed that the Digital Rev store has the FA 31 and FA 77 as discontinued.

Disclaimer: I have no experience with the digital rev store, so I don't know how reliable their pronouncements are.

Tesla · 09-26-2014, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by yorik

Apropos the `new limited' part of the post... I just noticed that the Digital Rev store has the FA 31 and FA 77 as discontinued.

Disclaimer: I have no experience with the digital rev store, so I don't know how reliable their pronouncements are.

That may be a sign of a refresh! It sure would be cool if they had them available in Prestige (graphite) color!

MadMathMind · 09-28-2014, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by RuiC

I also have a friend who is an engineer with Ricoh Japan, but he speaks japanese only and I can't understand him.

Oh, perfect. I speak Japanese! Perhaps I can be of some assistance?

**beachgardener** · 09-29-2014, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by yorik

Apropos the `new limited' part of the post... I just noticed that the Digital Rev store has the FA 31 and FA 77 as discontinued.

Disclaimer: I have no experience with the digital rev store, so I don't know how reliable their pronouncements are.

If it is true then my prediction is that Pentax won't do a FF camera, rather their FF is 645

D1N0 · 09-29-2014, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by beachgardener

If it is true then my prediction is that Pentax won't do a FF camera, rather their FF is 645

You don't need much to jump to a conclusion. It might just mean Digital is no longer selling it. It might also mean that HD versions of the HD limiteds are around the corner.

**beachgardener** · 09-29-2014, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

You don't need much to jump to a conclusion. It might just mean Digital is no longer selling it. It might also mean that HD versions of the HD limiteds are around the corner.

yes, all quite possible, i do like to play the advocate and think of a different position to current thinking on it, just for fun

bossa · 09-29-2014, 03:38 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

Actually, you can call them Amigos. The SMC are The Princesses.

That would be Amigas wouldn't it? (girlfriend)

**RuiC** · 09-29-2014, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by yorik

Apropos the `new limited' part of the post... I just noticed that the Digital Rev store has the FA 31 and FA 77 as discontinued.

Disclaimer: I have no experience with the digital rev store, so I don't know how reliable their pronouncements are.

That may be a store only information and they have discontinued those, not Ricoh Image!!

**Digitalis** · 09-29-2014, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Here come the HD Pentax-D FA 31mm f/1.8, 43mm f/1.9 and 77mm f/1,8 Limited.

Be prepared for the original FA limited trio to take a massive price hike. The only thing that might possibly interest me in a remake of the FA limited lenses if they did it Leica style, and made them all fully apochromatic. But even then I would miss the aperture ring and the overall feel of the lenses.

ElJamoquio · 09-29-2014, 09:53 AM

I think if they go apochromatic, the bokeh would take a penalty...

**VoiceOfReason** · 09-29-2014, 01:33 PM

Adding a Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 to my lens collection to cover the 50-70 gap with f/2.8. I wonder which of my collection will be ff compatible.

Mistral75 · 09-29-2014, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

I think if they go apochromatic, the bokeh would take a penalty...

Why? The bokehs of truly apochromatic lenses, such as Voigtländer Apo-Macro-Lanthar 125mm f/2.5 SL, Zeiss Apo-Sonnar T* 135mm f/2 ZE/ZF.2 or Carl Zeiss Sonnar-Superachromat 250mm f/5.6 (for Hasselblad 500C) are among the most beautiful I have ever seen.

09-26-2014, 05:12 PM	#35
Tesla Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 588	Prestige Originally posted by yorik Apropos the `new limited' part of the post... I just noticed that the Digital Rev store has the FA 31 and FA 77 as discontinued. Disclaimer: I have no experience with the digital rev store, so I don't know how reliable their pronouncements are. That may be a sign of a refresh! It sure would be cool if they had them available in Prestige (graphite) color!

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09-22-2014, 10:55 AM	#31
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by thibs Yep Samyang's there for that but no Limited though. And those DFA's prototype do not have aperture rings either. I intend to be very thoughtful about what high quality lenses I sell for the next year or so. Last edited by monochrome; 09-22-2014 at 11:01 AM.

09-22-2014, 12:58 PM - 1 Like	#32
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	Originally posted by Stavri The DA* 55mm f1.4 (a.k.a the aps-c redesign of the FA 85mm f1.4), encompasses most of the design elements that future D-Fa lenses might exhibit, (No A-ring, SMD/DC, WR, (+ better coating)) If they happen to introduce a new Limited, it's probably going to be an wide or uwa lens. I'd be okay with that. If everythings true (and I do believe they are) I would hope for my 2015-16 camera kit to consist of: Pentax 35mm digital 16mm f4 UWA prime 24mm f2.8 Wide prime 31mm f1.8 Limited prime 43mm f1.9 Limited Prime 55mm f1.4 (DA) 77mm f1.8 Limited Prime 24-70 f2.8 Zoom 70-200 f2.8 zoom Granted I would probably only ever use the two zooms, 55, and 77..... Even just to use the three limiteds and the 55 DA on a 35mm format digital would be heavenly.

09-22-2014, 01:31 PM	#33
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,265	Originally posted by thibs Well, new Lmiteds may just only be HD DC WR versions (not that I would be unhappy). Like the DA 20-40 Limited as an HD DC WR version of the FA 20-35, although in that case the switch to APS-C only and using modern glasses has made more of a difference.

09-26-2014, 03:21 PM - 1 Like	#34
yorik Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotts Valley, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 991	Apropos the `new limited' part of the post... I just noticed that the Digital Rev store has the FA 31 and FA 77 as discontinued. Disclaimer: I have no experience with the digital rev store, so I don't know how reliable their pronouncements are.

09-28-2014, 08:19 PM	#36
MadMathMind Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,717	Originally posted by RuiC I also have a friend who is an engineer with Ricoh Japan, but he speaks japanese only and I can't understand him. Oh, perfect. I speak Japanese! Perhaps I can be of some assistance?

09-29-2014, 12:16 AM	#37
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,841	Originally posted by yorik Apropos the `new limited' part of the post... I just noticed that the Digital Rev store has the FA 31 and FA 77 as discontinued. Disclaimer: I have no experience with the digital rev store, so I don't know how reliable their pronouncements are. If it is true then my prediction is that Pentax won't do a FF camera, rather their FF is 645

09-29-2014, 02:51 AM	#38
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,763	Originally posted by beachgardener If it is true then my prediction is that Pentax won't do a FF camera, rather their FF is 645 You don't need much to jump to a conclusion. It might just mean Digital is no longer selling it. It might also mean that HD versions of the HD limiteds are around the corner.

09-29-2014, 03:18 AM	#39
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,841	Originally posted by D1N0 You don't need much to jump to a conclusion. It might just mean Digital is no longer selling it. It might also mean that HD versions of the HD limiteds are around the corner. yes, all quite possible, i do like to play the advocate and think of a different position to current thinking on it, just for fun

09-29-2014, 03:38 AM - 1 Like	#40
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	Originally posted by monochrome Actually, you can call them Amigos. The SMC are The Princesses. That would be Amigas wouldn't it? (girlfriend)

09-29-2014, 04:57 AM	#41
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Originally posted by yorik Apropos the `new limited' part of the post... I just noticed that the Digital Rev store has the FA 31 and FA 77 as discontinued. Disclaimer: I have no experience with the digital rev store, so I don't know how reliable their pronouncements are. That may be a store only information and they have discontinued those, not Ricoh Image!!

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09-29-2014, 05:17 AM	#42
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Adelaide,South Australia. Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,332	Originally posted by Mistral75 Here come the HD Pentax-D FA 31mm f/1.8, 43mm f/1.9 and 77mm f/1,8 Limited. Be prepared for the original FA limited trio to take a massive price hike. The only thing that might possibly interest me in a remake of the FA limited lenses if they did it Leica style, and made them all fully apochromatic. But even then I would miss the aperture ring and the overall feel of the lenses.

09-29-2014, 09:53 AM	#43
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	I think if they go apochromatic, the bokeh would take a penalty...

09-29-2014, 01:33 PM	#44
VoiceOfReason Emperor and Senpai Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,122	Adding a Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 to my lens collection to cover the 50-70 gap with f/2.8. I wonder which of my collection will be ff compatible.

09-29-2014, 01:42 PM	#45
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 6,962	Originally posted by ElJamoquio I think if they go apochromatic, the bokeh would take a penalty... Why? The bokehs of truly apochromatic lenses, such as Voigtländer Apo-Macro-Lanthar 125mm f/2.5 SL, Zeiss Apo-Sonnar T* 135mm f/2 ZE/ZF.2 or Carl Zeiss Sonnar-Superachromat 250mm f/5.6 (for Hasselblad 500C) are among the most beautiful I have ever seen.