Pentax K-S1 Voted Consumer Camera Of The Year

tvdtvdtvd · 11-05-2014, 08:24 AM

Is it really 2015 already?

Wolfeye · 11-05-2014, 08:31 AM

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**clackers** · 11-05-2014, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by dcBear78

To be fair though the couple Camera House stores I've been into don't even have any stock of Pentax gear on display.

Who knows how an award dynamic plays out when all nominees are potential advertisers or suppliers, DCB?

Not for a moment, I hasten to point out, do I think the K-S1 isn't a worthy winner of that category - I bought one!

thibs · 11-05-2014, 01:28 PM

Chasseur d'Images gave 4 stars (out of 5) and 4 ou of 5 as "love rating".

The only real con to them is the price (which was lowered since).
Rest is question of taste but tince this is no cam for us (maybe someone will hear this), we shoud not care a iota about its effect on us.

Zygonyx · 11-05-2014, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by normhead

OK, I have to ask, owning a K-5 and K-01 as well as my K-3, why wouldn't I be interested in this camera? If I sell the K-5 and K-01 why wouldn't this be good back-up camera? I find the reaction to this camera on the forum puzzling. For me, it has to be better than my K-5 and K-01 in low light to be attractive, but there's nothing wrong with it I can see. For a backup camera, it's small, and it's light... perfect, as long as the IQ is there.

And it is there :

normhead · 11-05-2014, 02:42 PM

OK, here's probably what I wanted to know.... going backwards in the low light score...
Pentax K-S1 vs K-3 vs K-5 IIs: Different resolutions, similar Sensor Scores - DxOMark

Uluru · 11-05-2014, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by JimC1101

Interesting. I have never really seen this magazine in AU but someone seems to think it is not too bad being that it was voted tops in Consumer Camera Of The Year.
Camera Magazine Imaging Awards 2015 announced | Camera | News | AVHub
I guess a lot of people in the forum don't like it but I guess they are missing the point.

I am from OZ and have never heard of the magazine.
However, not that it should be waived off as irrelevant; in the big picture of things, Australia is totally irrelevant. But inside it, they may be some things local small magazines believe are relevant.

But aside all that: I would love to see EISA award for the K-S1. Shall we see it? Not a chance.
K-3 may deserve EISA, or 645Z may as well. Because in big picture of things, those are relevant cameras and breakthroughs.
K-S1 is just a candy bar, and positioned and marketed as such, awarded gold medals by local lolly shops.

JimC1101 · 11-05-2014, 05:28 PM

Well I am not from OZ so I am not sure but you could be right. Considering that this camera is new to the market, I am quite surprised to hear this type of agreement from anyone, but the other two contenders who were runner ups. Canon EOS 1200D, Nikon D5300, are known cameras that others have been using. Are they just candy bars too ?

I still think that others are missing the point on this camera. We all have opinions so I could be wrong just as anyone but there is more to taking a picture for some others. I wouldn't want a yellow or pink car but others do so am I wrong and they are right or vice vetsa? To each his own.

panoguy · 11-05-2014, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by normhead

OK, I have to ask, owning a K-5 and K-01 as well as my K-3, why wouldn't I be interested in this camera? If I sell the K-5 and K-01 why wouldn't this be good back-up camera? I find the reaction to this camera on the forum puzzling. For me, it has to be better than my K-5 and K-01 in low light to be attractive, but there's nothing wrong with it I can see. For a backup camera, it's small, and it's light... perfect, as long as the IQ is there.

When the price drops on the K-S1 (January?) my son will probably get one with the plastic 35/2.4 attached. He currently uses one of my Q's and still wants to press his eye to the... oh wait, no viewfinder! Who am I to encourage him to hold a camera at arm's length?

As far as current backup bodies, I think the K-50 is pretty much the one to beat. Weather sealed, same K-5 sensor, better AF, and a bit lighter...

**monochrome** · 11-05-2014, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by blackcloudbrew

I got to hold an play with the K-S1 last weekend at a Pentax 645z demo session. For one, it's a small camera and the rear control wheels are a bit unusual for this K3, K5, K20 user, however in a couple of minutes it was easy to adapt to. It also felt good to hold, not K3 or K30 like but better for a smaller hand I think. The menus are familiar with more of a Ricoh GR feeling. I think they have a winner there.

Glad to see you write that.

**spartan** · 11-06-2014, 07:46 AM

The only issue I had with the K-s1 was the entry price... otherwise I thought it was good move...

Clothears · 11-06-2014, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Rest is question of taste but since this is no cam for us ...

Yes it is. Shame it doesn't take AA batts and I doubt I need the LEDs, but otherwise there's nothing wrong with it.

thibs · 11-06-2014, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Clothears

Yes it is. Shame it doesn't take AA batts and I doubt I need the LEDs, but otherwise there's nothing wrong with it.

No, non, I didn't say it is no good, I say we aren't the target group. Even better if we buy it too

**luftfluss** · 11-06-2014, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by spartan

The only issue I had with the K-s1 was the entry price... otherwise I thought it was good move...

I agree, I think $599 would be more realistic, at least in North America.

JimC1101 · 11-06-2014, 09:34 AM

True, but it is a 20MP sensor so even though no WR and/or second wheel, the MP size is the driver. I think we will see it moving down considerably before the holidays. It is always easier to start high and go down in price then to move up in price until EOL takes shape. Look at where the K-5X and K-3's started at.

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11-05-2014, 08:24 AM	#16
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Is it really 2015 already?

11-05-2014, 08:31 AM	#17
Wolfeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 782	They also tabbed the Epson Expression Photo XP-950 as best printer, yet the printer does not enjoy a sterling reputation. Check out the reviews at B&H

11-05-2014, 09:22 AM	#18
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by dcBear78 To be fair though the couple Camera House stores I've been into don't even have any stock of Pentax gear on display. Who knows how an award dynamic plays out when all nominees are potential advertisers or suppliers, DCB? Not for a moment, I hasten to point out, do I think the K-S1 isn't a worthy winner of that category - I bought one!

11-05-2014, 01:28 PM	#19
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Chasseur d'Images gave 4 stars (out of 5) and 4 ou of 5 as "love rating". The only real con to them is the price (which was lowered since). Rest is question of taste but tince this is no cam for us (maybe someone will hear this), we shoud not care a iota about its effect on us.

11-05-2014, 02:34 PM	#20
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,032	Originally posted by normhead OK, I have to ask, owning a K-5 and K-01 as well as my K-3, why wouldn't I be interested in this camera? If I sell the K-5 and K-01 why wouldn't this be good back-up camera? I find the reaction to this camera on the forum puzzling. For me, it has to be better than my K-5 and K-01 in low light to be attractive, but there's nothing wrong with it I can see. For a backup camera, it's small, and it's light... perfect, as long as the IQ is there. And it is there :

11-05-2014, 02:42 PM	#21
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	OK, here's probably what I wanted to know.... going backwards in the low light score... Pentax K-S1 vs K-3 vs K-5 IIs: Different resolutions, similar Sensor Scores - DxOMark

11-05-2014, 04:45 PM	#22
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by JimC1101 Interesting. I have never really seen this magazine in AU but someone seems to think it is not too bad being that it was voted tops in Consumer Camera Of The Year. Camera Magazine Imaging Awards 2015 announced \| Camera \| News \| AVHub I guess a lot of people in the forum don't like it but I guess they are missing the point. I am from OZ and have never heard of the magazine. However, not that it should be waived off as irrelevant; in the big picture of things, Australia is totally irrelevant. But inside it, they may be some things local small magazines believe are relevant. But aside all that: I would love to see EISA award for the K-S1. Shall we see it? Not a chance. K-3 may deserve EISA, or 645Z may as well. Because in big picture of things, those are relevant cameras and breakthroughs. K-S1 is just a candy bar, and positioned and marketed as such, awarded gold medals by local lolly shops.

11-05-2014, 05:28 PM	#23
JimC1101 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Fremont, Ca Photos: Albums Posts: 395 Original Poster	Well I am not from OZ so I am not sure but you could be right. Considering that this camera is new to the market, I am quite surprised to hear this type of agreement from anyone, but the other two contenders who were runner ups. Canon EOS 1200D, Nikon D5300, are known cameras that others have been using. Are they just candy bars too ? I still think that others are missing the point on this camera. We all have opinions so I could be wrong just as anyone but there is more to taking a picture for some others. I wouldn't want a yellow or pink car but others do so am I wrong and they are right or vice vetsa? To each his own.

11-05-2014, 05:34 PM	#24
panoguy Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington, D.C. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,327	Originally posted by normhead OK, I have to ask, owning a K-5 and K-01 as well as my K-3, why wouldn't I be interested in this camera? If I sell the K-5 and K-01 why wouldn't this be good back-up camera? I find the reaction to this camera on the forum puzzling. For me, it has to be better than my K-5 and K-01 in low light to be attractive, but there's nothing wrong with it I can see. For a backup camera, it's small, and it's light... perfect, as long as the IQ is there. When the price drops on the K-S1 (January?) my son will probably get one with the plastic 35/2.4 attached. He currently uses one of my Q's and still wants to press his eye to the... oh wait, no viewfinder! Who am I to encourage him to hold a camera at arm's length? As far as current backup bodies, I think the K-50 is pretty much the one to beat. Weather sealed, same K-5 sensor, better AF, and a bit lighter...

11-05-2014, 05:50 PM	#25
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by blackcloudbrew I got to hold an play with the K-S1 last weekend at a Pentax 645z demo session. For one, it's a small camera and the rear control wheels are a bit unusual for this K3, K5, K20 user, however in a couple of minutes it was easy to adapt to. It also felt good to hold, not K3 or K30 like but better for a smaller hand I think. The menus are familiar with more of a Ricoh GR feeling. I think they have a winner there. Glad to see you write that.

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11-06-2014, 07:46 AM	#26
spartan Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NJ, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 428	The only issue I had with the K-s1 was the entry price... otherwise I thought it was good move...

11-06-2014, 08:15 AM	#27
Clothears Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canterbury Posts: 170	Originally posted by thibs Rest is question of taste but since this is no cam for us ... Yes it is. Shame it doesn't take AA batts and I doubt I need the LEDs, but otherwise there's nothing wrong with it.

11-06-2014, 08:52 AM	#28
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Clothears Yes it is. Shame it doesn't take AA batts and I doubt I need the LEDs, but otherwise there's nothing wrong with it. No, non, I didn't say it is no good, I say we aren't the target group. Even better if we buy it too

11-06-2014, 09:27 AM	#29
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,618	Originally posted by spartan The only issue I had with the K-s1 was the entry price... otherwise I thought it was good move... I agree, I think $599 would be more realistic, at least in North America.

11-06-2014, 09:34 AM	#30
JimC1101 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Fremont, Ca Photos: Albums Posts: 395 Original Poster	True, but it is a 20MP sensor so even though no WR and/or second wheel, the MP size is the driver. I think we will see it moving down considerably before the holidays. It is always easier to start high and go down in price then to move up in price until EOL takes shape. Look at where the K-5X and K-3's started at.