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12-13-2014, 02:34 PM   #91
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Looking back in the past, the old Pentax had their share of experiments - the ME Super with its buttons, the placement of the flash hotshoe on the SF and Z series, MZ-S's slanted top...
The K-S1 might be another experiment, perhaps not a successful one (we'll see when the price will drop a bit). But, is it bad for Pentax to experiment once again?

12-13-2014, 07:58 PM   #92
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thats funny since the camera store rated it one of the worst cameras of 2014. with that said, i dont think they won that particular recognition for being a bad camera so much as a camera that doesnt really go with what pentax is known for, ie weather sealing and sheer ruggedness. I am sure it wouldnt have been on the list if it was priced a bt lower at launch, but yeah. thoughts?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Danzarr Quote
thats funny since the camera store rated it one of the worst cameras of 2014. with that said, i dont think they won that particular recognition for being a bad camera so much as a camera that doesnt really go with what pentax is known for, ie weather sealing and sheer ruggedness. I am sure it wouldnt have been on the list if it was priced a bt lower at launch, but yeah. thoughts?

The thing isn't bad by itself but what are the difference with K50 ?
- K-S1 has a bit sharper sensor
- K-S1 is a bit lighter/smaller.
- K-S1 has the new ergonomics.
- K50 is WR.

They are both are available in many colors.

Couldn't they play the small/light a bit more and gain some experience on an EVF ? This way the 2 models would have been more different. Still I would have kept WR.

I would have bundled this with availability of 2 more plastic wonder (a 85mm and 24mm or something like that), a redisign of smaller WR 18-55 & 50-200, a study to make screw drive more silent and possibility to order all the color one could want or even customize it online.

Then ads evcerywhere with Pentax providing a system as small as mirorless, for shooting in all weather conditions, with full customization and complete range of lenses from macro to UWA to wildlife. There should be an agreement with somebody making fashion bad to design very nice looking bag to put your K-S1 inside something you could order as a whole.

The flash? Why it isn't a high speed flash? Why it can't target the ceilling like all cobra flash?

All of this would have been key selling arguments !

I'am not against innovation but here we mostly exchange WR for a bit lighter/smaller and new ergonomics. That's maybe not enough.

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Well, it might be voted consumer camera of the year in these awards, but TCS just called it the worst camera released this year.


Skip to 16:36 to see it.

I'm not saying it's bad or anything, but for me it just puts the importance of awards etc in perspective. Then, what remains is your own personal preference - as it should be.

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QuoteOriginally posted by starbase218 Quote
Well, it might be voted consumer camera of the year in these awards, but TCS just called it the worst camera released this year.
Well, what does that mean for the other finalists the K-S1 beat as Consumer DSLR of the Year - the Canon 1200D and Nikon D5300?
12-14-2014, 08:39 PM   #96
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QuoteOriginally posted by starbase218 Quote
Well, it might be voted consumer camera of the year in these awards, but TCS just called it the worst camera released this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RnXgIHbM3k

Skip to 16:36 to see it.

I'm not saying it's bad or anything, but for me it just puts the importance of awards etc in perspective. Then, what remains is your own personal preference - as it should be.
As a counterpoint to that, DP Review said some nice things about it in their Consumer DSLR Roundup.
Consumer DSLR Camera Roundup (2014): Digital Photography Review

They gave it a recommendation as one of the best interchangeable lens cameras for under $1000.
DPReview Recommends: Best Interchangeable Lens Cameras for Under $1000: Digital Photography Review

Ephotozine gave it 4.5 stars out of 5.
Pentax K-S1 Digital SLR Review

And What Digital Camera gave it a very positive review.
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That's what i said : just some "free" and counterproductive buzz-making attitude from TCS.
Bad news for them.
Thanks JPT.
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It ???
Sorry, Them.
Is that really you? That pic is hilarious and a total keeper. You look like one of the guys from SNL, like Bill Murray during a skit or something!

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Is that really you? That pic is hilarious and a total keeper. You look like one of the guys from SNL, like Bill Murray during a skit or something!
Should i lie or should i go ?
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QuoteOriginally posted by JPT Quote
As a counterpoint to that, DP Review said some nice things about it in their Consumer DSLR Roundup.
Consumer DSLR Camera Roundup (2014): Digital Photography Review

They gave it a recommendation as one of the best interchangeable lens cameras for under $1000.
DPReview Recommends: Best Interchangeable Lens Cameras for Under $1000: Digital Photography Review

Ephotozine gave it 4.5 stars out of 5.
Pentax K-S1 Digital SLR Review

And What Digital Camera gave it a very positive review.
Pentax KS1 Camera Review - YouTube
You know, this is a real pity. I didn't say that I thought the K-S1 is a bad camera, or a good one, for that matter. Instead, I think I touched on a better approach to awards and reviews in general. This is in no way a response to the essence of what I was trying to convey.

But hey, maybe this is the wrong topic for that stuff...
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QuoteOriginally posted by starbase218 Quote
Instead, I think I touched on a better approach to awards and reviews in general.
I think we all take industry awards with a grain of salt, don't we?

Magazines, TV stations, ad-driven websites and other media are notoriously vulnerable to the opinions of their advertisers.
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I think I'll put my popcorn down and go take some more photos with my K-S1....
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For what it's worth my youngest niece LIKES it because and I quote "It looks like something Disney's Princess Leia might carry around." I love that kid, grin. Note the distinction. DISNEY'S Princess Leia....

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/304/b/e/disney_buys_lucasfilm_by_studiobueno-d5jlifa.jpg
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