Pentax K-S1 Voted Consumer Camera Of The Year

JimC1101 · 11-05-2014, 01:14 AM - **1 Like**

Interesting. I have never really seen this magazine in AU but someone seems to think it is not too bad being that it was voted tops in Consumer Camera Of The Year.

Camera Magazine Imaging Awards 2015 announced | Camera | News | AVHub

I guess a lot of people in the forum don't like it but I guess they are missing the point.

jethro10 · 11-05-2014, 01:38 AM

Agreed, enthusiasts and consumers are not the same breed of people. Good to see the pentax doing well though.

**PJ1** · 11-05-2014, 03:31 AM

It is good to see someone recognising Pentax. But, when you look back, the accolades given to the K10D, K-3 and others show that Pentax does not lack for recognition. I look forward to seeing the K-S1 review here. It must have something that makes it stand out and I must admit I am mildly interested as I am in the market for an upgrade.

robjmitchell · 11-05-2014, 03:42 AM

Hypnotic LEDs!

We are still quite fond of good old pentax here in Aus!

cxdoo · 11-05-2014, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by JimC1101

Interesting. I have never really seen this magazine in AU but someone seems to think it is not too bad being that it was voted tops in Consumer Camera Of The Year.

Camera Magazine Imaging Awards 2015 announced | Camera | News | AVHub

I guess a lot of people in the forum don't like it but I guess they are missing the point.

I find these kind of awards ~~practically worthless~~ not very indicative of... anything. They say

Quote:

"As always, all the eligible products in each category are judged on a wide variety of design, operational and performance criteria along with a consideration of just how effectively the design brief has been met,” says Editor Paul Burrows. “Pricing is taken into account too, but isn’t necessarily a deal-breaker because some products would still win even if they were twice or three times the asking price – they’re simply that good – some represent such staggeringly good value-for-money that there’s no contest.
"After we’ve arrived at a shortlist of high-scoring potential winners, we leave the objective behind and consider the subjective elements – i.e. the look, the feel and the experience – and then it’s a case of looking for that special ‘something’ that generally tends to separate a winner from the best-of-the-rest every time.
"None of the categories was a walk-over this year so all the winners had to be a little bit special to rise above their rivals, either by simply being a better conceived package all round or by possessing one element of design or performance that was discernibly better than anything we’d seen before. Either way, the winners of the 2014-15 Camera Magazine Imaging Awards are undoubtedly the cream of the crop.”

So... a bunch of dudes sat and decided what is hot and what is not? Not going into the motivations behind some (or all) of their choices, and without any hard data on sales of the items mentioned, I'd just say this is another random list by random dude(s) on the net.

Or as the Dude himself would say

**clackers** · 11-05-2014, 04:07 AM

Originally posted by cxdoo

I'd just say this is another random list by random dude(s) on the net.

If only it were, Cxdoo.

Got to be suspicious of magazine awards funded by a camera retail chain.

Nevertheless, Pentax was also represented by the 645Z and K-3 as top three finalists.

**PJ1** · 11-05-2014, 04:07 AM

Originally posted by robjmitchell

Hypnotic LEDs!

Like bunnies in a spotlight!

cxdoo · 11-05-2014, 04:10 AM

Originally posted by clackers

If only it were, Cxdoo.

Got to be suspicious of magazine awards funded by a camera retail chain.

Nevertheless, Pentax was also represented by the 645Z and K-3 as top three finalists.

I know, but I didn't want to go there (Not going into the motivations...).

When you work for a company that gets lots of similar awards in its own industry, you get jaded very fast.

**clackers** · 11-05-2014, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by cxdoo

When you work for a company that gets lots of similar awards in its own industry, you get jaded very fast.

Yes, I think many industry awards could do with United Nations scrutineers.

They're often political you-scratch-my-back, next-year-it's-yours, etc, affairs.

dcBear78 · 11-05-2014, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by clackers

If only it were, Cxdoo.

Got to be suspicious of magazine awards funded by a camera retail chain.

Nevertheless, Pentax was also represented by the 645Z and K-3 as top three finalists.

To be fair though the couple Camera House stores I've been into don't even have any stock of Pentax gear on display. Nor have any knowledge on the brand. Although some of their shops might be different.

Plus the distributor, CR Kennedy has pissed off a lot of retail outlets as they sell
Pentax gear direct to the public through their website at prices no other retail store could dream of matching. They are also the Aussie distributor for Sigma and a few other brands which they sell on ebay (dcxprt) at grey market prices.

Personally, as a consumer I think it's great that we get amazing prices. I also think this retail model is the way forward for us here in Australia.

**blackcloudbrew** · 11-05-2014, 06:51 AM

I got to hold an play with the K-S1 last weekend at a Pentax 645z demo session. For one, it's a small camera and the rear control wheels are a bit unusual for this K3, K5, K20 user, however in a couple of minutes it was easy to adapt to. It also felt good to hold, not K3 or K30 like but better for a smaller hand I think. The menus are familiar with more of a Ricoh GR feeling. I think they have a winner there.

cxdoo · 11-05-2014, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by blackcloudbrew

I got to hold an play with the K-S1 last weekend at a Pentax 645z demo session. For one, it's a small camera and the rear control wheels are a bit unusual for this K3, K5, K20 user, however in a couple of minutes it was easy to adapt to. It also felt good to hold, not K3 or K30 like but better for a smaller hand I think. The menus are familiar with more of a Ricoh GR feeling. I think they have a winner there.

I'm very positive about this camera too, and now that I think, I don't wont to come off as Pentax or K-S1 basher. Once I see it I'll have to reason hard with the (already building up) excuse of buying it for a family member so I can use it too.
Just, this kind of (as I maliciously assume) PR fluff doesn't excite me.
Oh well, at least can't say Ricoh Marketing is doing nothing.

normhead · 11-05-2014, 07:10 AM - **1 Like**

OK, I have to ask, owning a K-5 and K-01 as well as my K-3, why wouldn't I be interested in this camera? If I sell the K-5 and K-01 why wouldn't this be good back-up camera? I find the reaction to this camera on the forum puzzling. For me, it has to be better than my K-5 and K-01 in low light to be attractive, but there's nothing wrong with it I can see. For a backup camera, it's small, and it's light... perfect, as long as the IQ is there.

JPT · 11-05-2014, 07:19 AM

If you look back at the past year, what would be the competition be for the Consumer DSLR of the year? The Nikon D3300? Just a warmed over D3200. The Canon EOS 1200D? I don't think so. So, I don't see any need for Ricoh to offer an inducement. The K-S1 wins almost by default.

luftfluss · 11-05-2014, 07:52 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by normhead

If I sell the... K-01

NO!!!

11-05-2014, 01:14 AM - 1 Like	#1
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11-05-2014, 01:38 AM	#2
jethro10 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Lake District Posts: 222	Agreed, enthusiasts and consumers are not the same breed of people. Good to see the pentax doing well though.

11-05-2014, 03:31 AM	#3
PJ1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mosquito Creek, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,191	It is good to see someone recognising Pentax. But, when you look back, the accolades given to the K10D, K-3 and others show that Pentax does not lack for recognition. I look forward to seeing the K-S1 review here. It must have something that makes it stand out and I must admit I am mildly interested as I am in the market for an upgrade.

11-05-2014, 03:42 AM	#4
robjmitchell Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Aus Posts: 1,776	Hypnotic LEDs! We are still quite fond of good old pentax here in Aus!

11-05-2014, 03:48 AM	#5
cxdoo Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Limassol, Cyprus Posts: 1,148	Originally posted by JimC1101 Interesting. I have never really seen this magazine in AU but someone seems to think it is not too bad being that it was voted tops in Consumer Camera Of The Year. Camera Magazine Imaging Awards 2015 announced \| Camera \| News \| AVHub I guess a lot of people in the forum don't like it but I guess they are missing the point. I find these kind of awards ~~practically worthless~~ not very indicative of... anything. They say Quote: "As always, all the eligible products in each category are judged on a wide variety of design, operational and performance criteria along with a consideration of just how effectively the design brief has been met,” says Editor Paul Burrows. “Pricing is taken into account too, but isn’t necessarily a deal-breaker because some products would still win even if they were twice or three times the asking price – they’re simply that good – some represent such staggeringly good value-for-money that there’s no contest. "After we’ve arrived at a shortlist of high-scoring potential winners, we leave the objective behind and consider the subjective elements – i.e. the look, the feel and the experience – and then it’s a case of looking for that special ‘something’ that generally tends to separate a winner from the best-of-the-rest every time. "None of the categories was a walk-over this year so all the winners had to be a little bit special to rise above their rivals, either by simply being a better conceived package all round or by possessing one element of design or performance that was discernibly better than anything we’d seen before. Either way, the winners of the 2014-15 Camera Magazine Imaging Awards are undoubtedly the cream of the crop.” So... a bunch of dudes sat and decided what is hot and what is not? Not going into the motivations behind some (or all) of their choices, and without any hard data on sales of the items mentioned, I'd just say this is another random list by random dude(s) on the net. Or as the Dude himself would say

11-05-2014, 04:07 AM	#6
clackers Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,222	Originally posted by cxdoo I'd just say this is another random list by random dude(s) on the net. If only it were, Cxdoo. Got to be suspicious of magazine awards funded by a camera retail chain. Nevertheless, Pentax was also represented by the 645Z and K-3 as top three finalists.

11-05-2014, 04:07 AM	#7
PJ1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mosquito Creek, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,191	Originally posted by robjmitchell Hypnotic LEDs! Like bunnies in a spotlight!

11-05-2014, 04:10 AM	#8
cxdoo Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Limassol, Cyprus Posts: 1,148	Originally posted by clackers If only it were, Cxdoo. Got to be suspicious of magazine awards funded by a camera retail chain. Nevertheless, Pentax was also represented by the 645Z and K-3 as top three finalists. I know, but I didn't want to go there (Not going into the motivations...). When you work for a company that gets lots of similar awards in its own industry, you get jaded very fast.

11-05-2014, 04:13 AM	#9
clackers Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,222	Originally posted by cxdoo When you work for a company that gets lots of similar awards in its own industry, you get jaded very fast. Yes, I think many industry awards could do with United Nations scrutineers. They're often political you-scratch-my-back, next-year-it's-yours, etc, affairs.

11-05-2014, 06:04 AM	#10
dcBear78 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Gladstone, QLD Photos: Gallery Posts: 823	Originally posted by clackers If only it were, Cxdoo. Got to be suspicious of magazine awards funded by a camera retail chain. Nevertheless, Pentax was also represented by the 645Z and K-3 as top three finalists. To be fair though the couple Camera House stores I've been into don't even have any stock of Pentax gear on display. Nor have any knowledge on the brand. Although some of their shops might be different. Plus the distributor, CR Kennedy has pissed off a lot of retail outlets as they sell Pentax gear direct to the public through their website at prices no other retail store could dream of matching. They are also the Aussie distributor for Sigma and a few other brands which they sell on ebay (dcxprt) at grey market prices. Personally, as a consumer I think it's great that we get amazing prices. I also think this retail model is the way forward for us here in Australia.

11-05-2014, 06:51 AM	#11
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11-05-2014, 06:59 AM	#12
cxdoo Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Limassol, Cyprus Posts: 1,148	Originally posted by blackcloudbrew I got to hold an play with the K-S1 last weekend at a Pentax 645z demo session. For one, it's a small camera and the rear control wheels are a bit unusual for this K3, K5, K20 user, however in a couple of minutes it was easy to adapt to. It also felt good to hold, not K3 or K30 like but better for a smaller hand I think. The menus are familiar with more of a Ricoh GR feeling. I think they have a winner there. I'm very positive about this camera too, and now that I think, I don't wont to come off as Pentax or K-S1 basher. Once I see it I'll have to reason hard with the (already building up) excuse of buying it for a family member so I can use it too. Just, this kind of (as I maliciously assume) PR fluff doesn't excite me. Oh well, at least can't say Ricoh Marketing is doing nothing.

11-05-2014, 07:10 AM - 1 Like	#13
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,420	OK, I have to ask, owning a K-5 and K-01 as well as my K-3, why wouldn't I be interested in this camera? If I sell the K-5 and K-01 why wouldn't this be good back-up camera? I find the reaction to this camera on the forum puzzling. For me, it has to be better than my K-5 and K-01 in low light to be attractive, but there's nothing wrong with it I can see. For a backup camera, it's small, and it's light... perfect, as long as the IQ is there.

11-05-2014, 07:19 AM	#14
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,628	If you look back at the past year, what would be the competition be for the Consumer DSLR of the year? The Nikon D3300? Just a warmed over D3200. The Canon EOS 1200D? I don't think so. So, I don't see any need for Ricoh to offer an inducement. The K-S1 wins almost by default.

11-05-2014, 07:52 AM - 2 Likes	#15
luftfluss Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,860	Originally posted by normhead If I sell the... K-01 NO!!!