MX-1 The End...

Zygonyx · 11-14-2014, 09:36 AM - **1 Like**

Look at m43' Panasonic new and promising LX100...

Biro · 11-14-2014, 11:45 AM

An MX-1 replacement with a one-inch sensor would be very nice. There's no doubt in my mind that they can get it in that body. And the competition has already proved one can get an f/1.8-2.8 zoom on it as well. Buffer size and speed was an issue with the MX-1, so that would need improving. Would there be room for a built-in EVF? That would be fantastic. And how about "White Magic" technology for the rear LCD, a la the Ricoh GR?

**DDoram** · 11-14-2014, 01:58 PM

I do hope that there is an MX-2 with a 1' sensor, EVF, WiFi and fast RAW showing. The lens/sensor combo in the MX-1 to me is way better then what the Q offers. Note that I have Q and Q7.

RonHendriks1966 · 11-14-2014, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by DDoram

I do hope that there is an MX-2 with a 1' sensor, EVF, WiFi and fast RAW showing. The lens/sensor combo in the MX-1 to me is way better then what the Q offers. Note that I have Q and Q7.

I know we want it all....NFC and GPS and cheaper....

MD Optofonik · 11-15-2014, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

No idea if it was a succes or not, but when you sell all your inventory then it isn't a failure.

Unless it was sold at a loss.

Uluru · 11-15-2014, 12:24 AM - **1 Like**

Stylus 1 is perhaps best what such small sensored cameras can offer, 28-300mm zoom compact camera. That still has a place in the future.
But no one does anything like Stylus 1 yet.
I hope for a LX100 like answer from Pentax, as they have heaps of Q with tiny sensors.
But again, how can we expect a good answer?
Because for most compact camera questions, Ricoh resorts to JK imaging answers.

RonHendriks1966 · 11-15-2014, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by Uluru

Stylus 1 is perhaps best what such small sensored cameras can offer, 28-300mm zoom compact camera. That still has a place in the future.
But no one does anything like Stylus 1 yet.
I hope for a LX100 like answer from Pentax, as they have heaps of Q with tiny sensors.
But again, how can we expect a good answer?
Because for most compact camera questions, Ricoh resorts to JK imaging answers.

Well short zooms are going down in sales, since they compete directly with smartphones like the 20 megapixel Sony Xperia Z2 that has a sensor just recently found in P&S camera's.

**gaweidert** · 11-15-2014, 06:36 AM

I have had an MX-1 for a few months now and really like the little beast. It has it's limits. but I am very happy with the results it gives me. I am surprised that not having a viewfinder is not that big a deal. I do field service and it goes with me on my journeys across New York state The two maple trees in the front yard put on quite a display this year. Here is a slightly cropped photo from about three weeks ago.

Na Horuk · 11-15-2014, 06:47 AM

Think Pentax will stick to brass or switch to cheaper, lighter materials?

**Mikesul** · 11-15-2014, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by Na Horuk

Think Pentax will stick to brass or switch to cheaper, lighter materials?

Well, they almost certainly have market research to determine how important brass was to MX-1 sales and how much sales would improve with lighter materials. Assuming that they have this information it will certainly determine what they do with any successor model.

Na Horuk · 11-15-2014, 07:55 AM

Hopefully. But look at what happened to the Q.

**Mikesul** · 11-15-2014, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Na Horuk

Hopefully. But look at what happened to the Q.

We are all subject to having our products fashioned according to what other people want. It really was more fun (not necessarily better) when manufacturers and merchants had to guess from limited sampling what would sell and at what price. Homogenization has crept into almost every product and activity now.

astron · 11-23-2014, 09:44 AM

The MX-1 was a nice little camera, especially when the price dropped significantly. My only gripe was that it made web searches for stuff pertaining to my Pentax MX SLR a real pain in the butt!

I don't see Ricoh making another one since this was seemingly a joint venture with Olympus (It's the same lens/sensor as the ZX-2 as many of you know). I just don't know if more non-rugged, non-GR compact Ricohs are in the cards. It's a camera company with incredibly limited resources and it sounds like now that the 645Z is out in the world, those resources are being funneled towards the next thing...

**Mikesul** · 11-23-2014, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by astron

The MX-1 was a nice little camera, especially when the price dropped significantly. My only gripe was that it made web searches for stuff pertaining to my Pentax MX SLR a real pain in the butt!

I don't see Ricoh making another one since this was seemingly a joint venture with Olympus (It's the same lens/sensor as the ZX-2 as many of you know). I just don't know if more non-rugged, non-GR compact Ricohs are in the cards. It's a camera company with incredibly limited resources and it sounds like now that the 645Z is out in the world, those resources are being funneled towards the next thing...

Well, maybe, but these little cameras cannot be as expensive to design and produce as the mainline DSLRS and other large complex systems.

Uluru · 11-23-2014, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Well, they almost certainly have market research to determine how important brass was to MX-1 sales and how much sales would improve with lighter materials. Assuming that they have this information it will certainly determine what they do with any successor model.

Among many similar models from other manufacturers, why did Pentax MX-1 sell?
Brass and old style styling is exactly the reason. If it were another plastic and aluminium toy in the fashion of Oly and Canon and Fuji, it would not sell next to them. It would have zero personality. And I personally would not touch it.

On the other hand, to style any future compact like the Q, in hundreds of colours, is another suicide. Each camera must be tailored to the very specific market, and be best in it. The MX-1, I think, was fairly successful. Now is time for another version, but more powerful.

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11-14-2014, 09:36 AM - 1 Like	#16
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Look at m43' Panasonic new and promising LX100...

11-14-2014, 11:45 AM	#17
Biro Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,200	An MX-1 replacement with a one-inch sensor would be very nice. There's no doubt in my mind that they can get it in that body. And the competition has already proved one can get an f/1.8-2.8 zoom on it as well. Buffer size and speed was an issue with the MX-1, so that would need improving. Would there be room for a built-in EVF? That would be fantastic. And how about "White Magic" technology for the rear LCD, a la the Ricoh GR?

11-14-2014, 01:58 PM	#18
DDoram Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 632	I do hope that there is an MX-2 with a 1' sensor, EVF, WiFi and fast RAW showing. The lens/sensor combo in the MX-1 to me is way better then what the Q offers. Note that I have Q and Q7.

11-14-2014, 02:13 PM	#19
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675 Original Poster	Originally posted by DDoram I do hope that there is an MX-2 with a 1' sensor, EVF, WiFi and fast RAW showing. The lens/sensor combo in the MX-1 to me is way better then what the Q offers. Note that I have Q and Q7. I know we want it all....NFC and GPS and cheaper....

11-15-2014, 12:09 AM	#20
MD Optofonik Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 962	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 No idea if it was a succes or not, but when you sell all your inventory then it isn't a failure. Unless it was sold at a loss.

11-15-2014, 12:24 AM - 1 Like	#21
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Stylus 1 is perhaps best what such small sensored cameras can offer, 28-300mm zoom compact camera. That still has a place in the future. But no one does anything like Stylus 1 yet. I hope for a LX100 like answer from Pentax, as they have heaps of Q with tiny sensors. But again, how can we expect a good answer? Because for most compact camera questions, Ricoh resorts to JK imaging answers.

11-15-2014, 03:52 AM	#22
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675 Original Poster	Originally posted by Uluru Stylus 1 is perhaps best what such small sensored cameras can offer, 28-300mm zoom compact camera. That still has a place in the future. But no one does anything like Stylus 1 yet. I hope for a LX100 like answer from Pentax, as they have heaps of Q with tiny sensors. But again, how can we expect a good answer? Because for most compact camera questions, Ricoh resorts to JK imaging answers. Well short zooms are going down in sales, since they compete directly with smartphones like the 20 megapixel Sony Xperia Z2 that has a sensor just recently found in P&S camera's.

11-15-2014, 06:47 AM	#24
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Think Pentax will stick to brass or switch to cheaper, lighter materials?

11-15-2014, 06:55 AM	#25
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by Na Horuk Think Pentax will stick to brass or switch to cheaper, lighter materials? Well, they almost certainly have market research to determine how important brass was to MX-1 sales and how much sales would improve with lighter materials. Assuming that they have this information it will certainly determine what they do with any successor model.

11-15-2014, 07:55 AM	#26
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Hopefully. But look at what happened to the Q.

11-15-2014, 02:05 PM	#27
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by Na Horuk Hopefully. But look at what happened to the Q. We are all subject to having our products fashioned according to what other people want. It really was more fun (not necessarily better) when manufacturers and merchants had to guess from limited sampling what would sell and at what price. Homogenization has crept into almost every product and activity now.

11-23-2014, 09:44 AM	#28
astron Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 105	The MX-1 was a nice little camera, especially when the price dropped significantly. My only gripe was that it made web searches for stuff pertaining to my Pentax MX SLR a real pain in the butt! I don't see Ricoh making another one since this was seemingly a joint venture with Olympus (It's the same lens/sensor as the ZX-2 as many of you know). I just don't know if more non-rugged, non-GR compact Ricohs are in the cards. It's a camera company with incredibly limited resources and it sounds like now that the 645Z is out in the world, those resources are being funneled towards the next thing...

11-23-2014, 05:44 PM	#29
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by astron The MX-1 was a nice little camera, especially when the price dropped significantly. My only gripe was that it made web searches for stuff pertaining to my Pentax MX SLR a real pain in the butt! I don't see Ricoh making another one since this was seemingly a joint venture with Olympus (It's the same lens/sensor as the ZX-2 as many of you know). I just don't know if more non-rugged, non-GR compact Ricohs are in the cards. It's a camera company with incredibly limited resources and it sounds like now that the 645Z is out in the world, those resources are being funneled towards the next thing... Well, maybe, but these little cameras cannot be as expensive to design and produce as the mainline DSLRS and other large complex systems.

11-23-2014, 06:42 PM	#30
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by Mikesul Well, they almost certainly have market research to determine how important brass was to MX-1 sales and how much sales would improve with lighter materials. Assuming that they have this information it will certainly determine what they do with any successor model. Among many similar models from other manufacturers, why did Pentax MX-1 sell? Brass and old style styling is exactly the reason. If it were another plastic and aluminium toy in the fashion of Oly and Canon and Fuji, it would not sell next to them. It would have zero personality. And I personally would not touch it. On the other hand, to style any future compact like the Q, in hundreds of colours, is another suicide. Each camera must be tailored to the very specific market, and be best in it. The MX-1, I think, was fairly successful. Now is time for another version, but more powerful.