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12-08-2014, 09:04 PM   #166
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
If you think real prices rise naturally over time then photographers real wages should be rising over time.
Predictions are for 0.6% increase over the next 5 years for the sector.

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12-09-2014, 01:01 AM   #168
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Where is the rumor about K-1, or perhaps K-0, a never come FF.
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This thread has become increasingly tedious and off topic.
It needs to be closed.
+ 1. If not closed at least moved to the off topic section. There has been little or nothing related to the title for a great many messages.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Nicolas06 Quote
Predictions are for 0.6% increase over the next 5 years for the sector.
Which is less than the rate of inflation, so real wages are falling for photographers.

Anyway. We are causing emotional distress from some of the readers and are off topic.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
May i totally desagree with these "pensée unique" and "urban born" and biaised statements of Mr Reichsmann.


1/ Canon, Pentax and Nikon do have the correct approch of mirrorless concepts : small sensors, for small bodies and accordingly small lenses. Whatever one might think, once you need strong grips and long focal distance, the mirrorless concept looses interest, because the body's size "advantage" with small lenses, becomes a handicap.

2/ The big margins are rather to be found in the mirrorless bodies producers, whose prices are definitely and globally higher than comparable SLRs, despite evidences of lower material, technical complexity and manufacture added value in these products (with the noticeable exceptions of Sony and Samsung, due to their fast market-share conquerant - but risky - strategy).

3/ Tomorrow's market will probably not be MILC's or DSLRsatz dominated ; there will definitely still be a huge market-share for DSLR. Why ? because not every photog is a mere urban or landscape shooter with 2 to 3 lenses, keen to swich label according to the last geekeries of any kind, let appart photography potential. Most interested photographers are investing time and money in their gear, appreciate the backward compatiblity and the serious/steady strategy of traditionnal DSLR makers, rather to elusive and/or instable/fancy providers like Olympus, Sony or Fujifim.

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Apparently I am making a liar of myself by chiming in again, but that is the best photography neologism I've heard in a while! Mind if I steal it?
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Anyway. We are causing emotional distress from some of the readers and are off topic.
Agree to stop arguing myself here. There really no point in such thread.
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QuoteOriginally posted by odyseuss Quote
These rumors come from 2ch, meaning they are not *that* reliable:

[1] 1月にリコーの本気コンデジ(×高画質)
Ricoh will release a high-end compact digital camera next January.

[2] CP+前にペンタックスのド変態Kマウント機(APS-C)
New Pentax APS-C format K-mount camera, which will be awesome

[3] 新型Qは夏頃発表予定
New Q-mount camera next summer

[4] マウントが蛇腹式カメラのように前後に移動
New bellow-type camera mount (Honestly, this sounds crazy and I have no idea what this is)

[5] 噂といえば今年の初めくらいにK-60とKLというのがあったな
K-60はセンサーの画素数こそ違えどK-3譲りの機能でお買い得モデルみたいな感じだった
KLはK-60ベースでレトロデザインのモデル
K-60と言われてたのは実はK-S1だったんじゃないかな
んで、来年Kマウント40周年なんだよね
AF、AE、SR、何だったら背面液晶も省略したデジタル版MX復刻モデル、
キットレンズは40周年にかけてDA40ベースの復刻版M40
当然限定モデルだけど、これならド変態だよね
K-S1に加えてさらに変態モデルをレギュラーで出すとは思えないし、

Ricoh will release K-60 and K-L next year.
- Spec-wise, K-60 will be similar to K-3 but with a different sensor
- K-L is basically a retro version of K-60.
There will be a new MX, but it won't have AF/AE/SR and LCD screen.


Well, as I said, 2ch is typically not the best source, so take these rumors as a grain of salt.
What about 35mm FF camera? Don't we already have enough Pentax FF rumors
Concerning number 4 I actually have thought about this before and think it is a good idea. Basically just a K-mount that retracts closer to the camera for a smaller form factor mirrorless. When you need the original K-mount distance it protudes out further out, kind of like a build in adapter. Not sure if this would look nice or not though.
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Leica, probably the company whose customers are on the whole the least concerned about photographic fundamentals
Excuse me, as a Leica photographer I suggest you keep your sweeping judgements to yourself.
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Rumors are fun.
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Rumors are fun.
Yep, they make pentaxforums.com alive.
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Case in point. Sounds like I hit a nerve.

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Excuse me, as a Leica photographer I suggest you keep your sweeping judgements to yourself.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
Case in point. Sounds like I hit a nerve.
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Leica, probably the company whose customers are on the whole the least concerned about photographic fundamentals
Excuse me, as a Leica photographer I suggest you keep your sweeping judgements to yourself.
You hit a nerve maybe but I'd say that Digitalis is the living counter example of your point. Take some time to review his posts in general on Pentax Forum. At least to me he seems knowledgable, to care of photographics fundamentals and to have Leica gear. It also look like he is a good photographer too.

At most you could say it apply to most Leica photographers, not all... But still without somes statistics this would be your point of view only, and a point of view that put negative judgement on some people.
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