Photo.net: Rumor of Pentax's Demise

peerSr · 05-25-2008, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

My apologies if I offended.

its OK

- next time I will be more careful.

And - I am really happy this info is bogus

anomaly · 05-25-2008, 10:58 AM

It just sounds like his guy had a visit from the local Canon rep who made him "an offer he couldn't refuse"

Kunzite · 05-25-2008, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Pentax:

Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated

I'm tired of such rumors... Pentax is very much alive (as a Hoya division now), I don't see why Hoya should stop production or sell them to Samsung. Some people should learn to live with this.

falconeye · 05-25-2008, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by peerSr

Now I read this strange thread at Photo.net:
Rumor of Pentax's Demise

Well, I tried to check it out a bit and leave the findings for anybody else here:

(1) The poster at Photo.net (Lewis Hizer) registered new for the post and left this single post and a single reply, only.

(2) A wedding photographer Lewis Hizer does exist in Michigan:
--
(616) 785-7396
7520 Division Ave N
Comstock Park, MI 49321
--
Maybe a forum fellow phones him to verify the info...

(3) If true, the info relates to what a store clerk from Comstock Park has said after the shop dropped Pentax from its line, for whatever reason.

In summary, I would say that the info isn't credible in these internet days where everybody can say everything and we can savely ignore this

jake123 · 05-25-2008, 11:43 AM

I see some problems in selling the dslr division to Samsung:
1) The engineers are Japanese and they won't move to Korea, although Samsung can just set up a research plant there.
2) Hoya still has Tokina, they won't probably fully sell the lens patents, etc. to Samsung and leave it for Tokina.

I guess Samsung can push the bodies and release Schneider lenses and license existing lens designs, while Tokina-Pentax will also feed the mount. Well that's what I hope, since I do not think the self-funding Pentax dslr division can do much further R&D after this attempt.

**KA5TXL** · 05-25-2008, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by peerSr

I am considering to by a K20D this summer. Even - I suspect I am observing first signs of LBA,.....

Come on and take the dip the water is fine. I have a K20D and it's great. LBA isn't bad either as long as save some $$ for beer money

ericc · 05-25-2008, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by jake123

2) Hoya still has Tokina, they won't probably fully sell the lens patents, etc. to Samsung and leave it for Tokina.

One more time...

Hoya does not own Tokina. Hoya provides glass to Tokina for some of their lenses. They share a US distributor that can be found at thkphoto.com. Otherwise, they are not related.

HermanLee · 05-25-2008, 12:41 PM

Well, if Pentax is not going to be on the market anymore,
why would Sigma and Tamron all of sudden releasing their new lineup of lenses for Pentax?
Won't that be weird.
I think Sigma & Tamron executives know much better on where Pentax is going than that store salesperson, right?

Confused · 05-25-2008, 12:45 PM

Hi all

Rumours, rumours, rumours..........zzzzzzzzzzzzzz ! God, this is boring. Sorry !

Best regards
Richard

cpopham · 05-25-2008, 01:23 PM

If Pentax is dying, why are more cameras and lenses suddenly appearing on the shelves of camera shops here, who just last year were telling me Pentax is dead / doesn't make digital products / will be gone soon.

*Here meaning New Zealand, small I know, but it's been quite heartening to see more and more camera shops picking up the SLR line, AND better yet, beginning to keep stocks of things on hand. They're clearly confident about something, and the local distributor is confident enough to buy decent amounts of stock, something they didn't appear to be doing before....

As everyone else said, I think Hoya will probably give Pentax a good couple of years before they decide whether to spin them off.

Falcons · 05-25-2008, 04:03 PM

I just received a A3 sized brochure in the mail, folded down of course, promoting of all things - PENTAX lenses. Unfortunately not the camera lenses I am interested in but lenses for Spectacles.

It would seem to me Hoya are promoting the Pentax brand in more ways than just cameras which hardly suggests a move to sell off the brand.

Confused · 05-25-2008, 04:53 PM

Hi Falcons

Re your observation:

Quote:

PENTAX lenses.....for Spectacles.

For as long as I can remember, Pentax have supplied the highest quality lenses to the profession of opticians, whilst maintaining a strong presence within the UK. As for elsewhere I obviously cannot comment, but this only serves to further enhance Pentax's reputation and strengthen the brand, which I assume is something to be applauded ?

Best regards
Richard

jeffkrol · 05-25-2008, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

Well, I tried to check it out a bit and leave the findings for anybody else here:

(1) The poster at Photo.net (Lewis Hizer) registered new for the post and left this single post and a single reply, only.

(2) A wedding photographer Lewis Hizer does exist in Michigan:
--
(616) 785-7396
7520 Division Ave N
Comstock Park, MI 49321
--
Maybe a forum fellow phones him to verify the info...

(3) If true, the info relates to what a store clerk from Comstock Park has said after the shop dropped Pentax from its line, for whatever reason.

In summary, I would say that the info isn't credible in these internet days where everybody can say everything and we can savely ignore this

Pentax/Hoya and Ned talked about the restructuring of the sals
chain. Due to the fact that some sales reps are "retiring" (either voluntarily or not) and a new system is put in place a lot of disinformation is very likely. A disgrunteled rep can cause a bit of misunderstanding.

lithos · 05-25-2008, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by peerSr

BTW - Semtex is former Czech invention...

I know. And it's great you guys named an energy drink after it, too

.

peerSr · 05-25-2008, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by lithos

I know. And it's great you guys named an energy drink after it, too

.

right - but there were other - less explosive - inventions, we Czechs (which I am actually not) gave to the World:
For example the word "Robot" is of Czech origin.
Robot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When I was young, they were very popular TLR cameras named FLEXARET, manufactured by Czech company Optikotechna, later Meopta.
Cameras | Meopta

And Mikroma was my favorite toy:

"Dimensions: 75x43x40 mm, weight 230 g"

Still I must admit, Semtex became far more popular.

05-25-2008, 05:47 PM	#28
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	Don't forget about the restructuring Originally posted by falconeye Well, I tried to check it out a bit and leave the findings for anybody else here: (1) The poster at Photo.net (Lewis Hizer) registered new for the post and left this single post and a single reply, only. (2) A wedding photographer Lewis Hizer does exist in Michigan: -- (616) 785-7396 7520 Division Ave N Comstock Park, MI 49321 -- Maybe a forum fellow phones him to verify the info... (3) If true, the info relates to what a store clerk from Comstock Park has said after the shop dropped Pentax from its line, for whatever reason. In summary, I would say that the info isn't credible in these internet days where everybody can say everything and we can savely ignore this Pentax/Hoya and Ned talked about the restructuring of the sals chain. Due to the fact that some sales reps are "retiring" (either voluntarily or not) and a new system is put in place a lot of disinformation is very likely. A disgrunteled rep can cause a bit of misunderstanding.

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05-25-2008, 10:49 AM	#16
peerSr Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 50 Original Poster	Originally posted by monochrome My apologies if I offended. its OK - next time I will be more careful. And - I am really happy this info is bogus

05-25-2008, 10:58 AM	#17
anomaly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Barbados Photos: Gallery Posts: 264	It just sounds like his guy had a visit from the local Canon rep who made him "an offer he couldn't refuse"

05-25-2008, 11:05 AM	#18
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Pentax: Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated I'm tired of such rumors... Pentax is very much alive (as a Hoya division now), I don't see why Hoya should stop production or sell them to Samsung. Some people should learn to live with this.

05-25-2008, 11:08 AM	#19
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by peerSr Now I read this strange thread at Photo.net: Rumor of Pentax's Demise Well, I tried to check it out a bit and leave the findings for anybody else here: (1) The poster at Photo.net (Lewis Hizer) registered new for the post and left this single post and a single reply, only. (2) A wedding photographer Lewis Hizer does exist in Michigan: -- (616) 785-7396 7520 Division Ave N Comstock Park, MI 49321 -- Maybe a forum fellow phones him to verify the info... (3) If true, the info relates to what a store clerk from Comstock Park has said after the shop dropped Pentax from its line, for whatever reason. In summary, I would say that the info isn't credible in these internet days where everybody can say everything and we can savely ignore this

05-25-2008, 11:43 AM	#20
jake123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 130	I see some problems in selling the dslr division to Samsung: 1) The engineers are Japanese and they won't move to Korea, although Samsung can just set up a research plant there. 2) Hoya still has Tokina, they won't probably fully sell the lens patents, etc. to Samsung and leave it for Tokina. I guess Samsung can push the bodies and release Schneider lenses and license existing lens designs, while Tokina-Pentax will also feed the mount. Well that's what I hope, since I do not think the self-funding Pentax dslr division can do much further R&D after this attempt.

05-25-2008, 11:49 AM	#21
KA5TXL Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 188	Originally posted by peerSr I am considering to by a K20D this summer. Even - I suspect I am observing first signs of LBA,..... Come on and take the dip the water is fine. I have a K20D and it's great. LBA isn't bad either as long as save some $$ for beer money

05-25-2008, 12:29 PM	#22
ericc Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Oklahoma Posts: 412	Originally posted by jake123 2) Hoya still has Tokina, they won't probably fully sell the lens patents, etc. to Samsung and leave it for Tokina. One more time... Hoya does not own Tokina. Hoya provides glass to Tokina for some of their lenses. They share a US distributor that can be found at thkphoto.com. Otherwise, they are not related.

05-25-2008, 12:41 PM	#23
HermanLee Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern California, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 729	Well, if Pentax is not going to be on the market anymore, why would Sigma and Tamron all of sudden releasing their new lineup of lenses for Pentax? Won't that be weird. I think Sigma & Tamron executives know much better on where Pentax is going than that store salesperson, right?

05-25-2008, 12:45 PM	#24
Confused Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London Posts: 1,067	Hi all Rumours, rumours, rumours..........zzzzzzzzzzzzzz ! God, this is boring. Sorry ! Best regards Richard

05-25-2008, 01:23 PM	#25
cpopham Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Auckland Posts: 553	If Pentax is dying, why are more cameras and lenses suddenly appearing on the shelves of camera shops here, who just last year were telling me Pentax is dead / doesn't make digital products / will be gone soon. *Here meaning New Zealand, small I know, but it's been quite heartening to see more and more camera shops picking up the SLR line, AND better yet, beginning to keep stocks of things on hand. They're clearly confident about something, and the local distributor is confident enough to buy decent amounts of stock, something they didn't appear to be doing before.... As everyone else said, I think Hoya will probably give Pentax a good couple of years before they decide whether to spin them off.

05-25-2008, 04:03 PM	#26
Falcons Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Perth Photos: Gallery Posts: 669	I just received a A3 sized brochure in the mail, folded down of course, promoting of all things - PENTAX lenses. Unfortunately not the camera lenses I am interested in but lenses for Spectacles. It would seem to me Hoya are promoting the Pentax brand in more ways than just cameras which hardly suggests a move to sell off the brand.

05-25-2008, 04:53 PM	#27
Confused Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London Posts: 1,067	Hi Falcons Re your observation: Quote: PENTAX lenses.....for Spectacles. For as long as I can remember, Pentax have supplied the highest quality lenses to the profession of opticians, whilst maintaining a strong presence within the UK. As for elsewhere I obviously cannot comment, but this only serves to further enhance Pentax's reputation and strengthen the brand, which I assume is something to be applauded ? Best regards Richard

05-25-2008, 07:28 PM	#29
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Originally posted by peerSr BTW - Semtex is former Czech invention... I know. And it's great you guys named an energy drink after it, too .

05-25-2008, 09:12 PM	#30
peerSr Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 50 Original Poster	Originally posted by lithos I know. And it's great you guys named an energy drink after it, too . right - but there were other - less explosive - inventions, we Czechs (which I am actually not) gave to the World: For example the word "Robot" is of Czech origin. Robot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia When I was young, they were very popular TLR cameras named FLEXARET, manufactured by Czech company Optikotechna, later Meopta. Cameras \| Meopta And Mikroma was my favorite toy: "Dimensions: 75x43x40 mm, weight 230 g" Still I must admit, Semtex became far more popular.