Originally posted by Winder Likely. But even Pentax acknowledges that the smartphone issue and connectivity have driven price points down, so there are fewer people willing to invest in a system. The "good enough" syndrome has hit this market, so even if the $2,600 body is now $1,800, and FF drops to $1,300, the new mid-range is now sub-$1,000.
Also—and I keep saying this—the body is not the problem. It's the lenses. Can Pentax ramp up a 4th product line with the Q, 6455, APS-C (which will still dominate sales), and FF?
Note how both Nikon and Canon have recently put more resources into APS-C. Why? Because they see the same issue. They cannot assume that people will buy up to FF when a "good enough" APS-C option is still considerably cheaper. Why would a consumer buy an FF at $1,500/body when you could get a K-3 at $900?
Not to mention the size factor for FF prism optics. The reason why the Sony A7 is small is because of the EVF. That is the other conundrum. It's also one reason why it still sells less than the D750 by a wide, wide margin.
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Originally posted by Uluru That brand must have two high level, no-nonsense APS-C machines and one good FF at least. Because that is the new shopping ground for the DSLR market; everything below is eaten up by small mirror-less systems.
Not really. DSLRs in North America still outsell mirrorless about 5:1. This is a VERY conservative market. I still far more DSLRs than mirrorless systems, especially amongst the middle class family crowd. When they want a "real" camera, they look for a DSLR with a OVF I find. I went to 3 pre-Xmas events loaded with families and I saw dozens of DSLRs and hardly any mirrorless.
I think the main reasons why DSLR sales stalled are over-saturation and lack of connectivity to the emerging mobile OS dominance. It has much less to do with mirrorless and lack of FF.
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Originally posted by monochrome What is the difference in price between a FF sensor and an APSc sensor?
Current estimates put APS-C at ~$40 per while FF is about 6x that including the added costs for supporting circuitry as well, like buffers, etc.
Prisms and mirrors and dampers all have to be larger as well, but those are not huge differences. It all adds up though, to a price point differential. Also, Canikon have no real impetus to engage in a FF price war. Only Sony does, but they have to few lenses to sway the big money stalwarts, so their approach is more vampire in that they suck off $$$ as a second system. Go to FredMiranada and see how many big Canikon shooters dabble with Sony gear (and more often than not stick with he big lens systems of Canikon).
FF is utterly dominated by the glass offered by Canikon alongside flagships like the D750. Note: optics first, bodies second.