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01-07-2015, 07:49 AM   #241
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
How much extra does built in Wi-Fi cost?
Less than $10?

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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
How much extra does built in Wi-Fi cost?
Probably less than 1% of the full price of the camera.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
How much extra does built in Wi-Fi cost?
Not much to be honest... they put WiFi into watches nowadays... watches that you can buy for $30-$50...

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Ahahaha, those 3 instant replies
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In terms of market share, how much would not including Wi-Fi cost?

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QuoteOriginally posted by filoxophy Quote
Hard to see where you're coming from...

It's a collapsible DA L kit zoom. Nothing says "FF" about it. And I don't know what tea leaves you're reading to surmise that Pentax will drop screw-drive AF on their next top model.
I don't think screw drive AF will ever disappear. That would upset way too many people who own FA Limited lenses. That crowd wouldn't upgrade to a body without screw drive AF and I think that's a pretty significantly sized crowd. Besides, then Ricoh would have to update those lenses and that's no small feat.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
I would say that the best way to get rid of the screw-driven AF on entry-level bodies is to first offer kit zooms with built-in AF motor.

Then, you are in a position to maintain the screw-driven AF and associated costs on your high-end bodies only, for enthusiasts to keep on using their legacy lenses.

This is exactly what Nikon have done (but does not imply that Ricoh will follow the same path).
I tend to agree with you this is the same way in which Nikon currently provides backward compatibility. Cheap Nikon cameras are not backward compatible whereas their more expensive cameras are.

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I would sure like to see the back of this thing.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
I would say that the best way to get rid of the screw-driven AF on entry-level bodies is to first offer kit zooms with built-in AF motor.

Then, you are in a position to maintain the screw-driven AF and associated costs on your high-end bodies only, for enthusiasts to keep on using their legacy lenses.

This is exactly what Nikon have done (but does not imply that Ricoh will follow the same path).
Ricoh would be incredibly stupid to follow that path.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mrNewt Quote
Not much to be honest... they put WiFi into watches nowadays... watches that you can buy for $30-$50...

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Ahahaha, those 3 instant replies
So does WiFi just allow for file transfer from the camera to a device such as a computer or tablet or does it offer more features including full tethering?

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QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
Ricoh would be incredibly stupid to follow that path.
Agreed but in a small way Ricoh/Pentax is doing this as they don't support manual exposure bar stop-down metering via DOF preivew on the lower end models.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
How much extra does built in Wi-Fi cost?
Inquiring minds want to know.

QuoteOriginally posted by gazonk Quote
Less than $10?
I could buy a spare lens cap with $10

QuoteOriginally posted by Fogel70 Quote
Probably less than 1% of the full price of the camera.
That's a tax on every buyer, whether we want Wi-Fi or not.

QuoteOriginally posted by mrNewt Quote
Not much to be honest... they put WiFi into watches nowadays... watches that you can buy for $30-$50...
I don't want a watch with Wi-Fi - I don't want to pay for it.

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In terms of market share, how much would not including Wi-Fi cost?
How much in terms of market share does NOT offering two cameras - one with and one without - cost?
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QuoteOriginally posted by bobell69 Quote
So does WiFi just allow for file transfer from the camera to a device such as a computer or tablet or does it offer more features including full tethering?
No way to know how Pentax will implement it.
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Agreed but in a small way Ricoh/Pentax is doing this as they don't support manual exposure bar stop-down metering via DOF preivew on the lower end models.
That's still better than Nikon. Nikon doesn't support metering at all on with non-CPU lenses with the 3xxx/5xxx series. Not that you would want to manually focus a lens with their crappy little viewfinders anyway.
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So does WiFi just allow for file transfer from the camera to a device such as a computer or tablet or does it offer more features including full tethering?
I doubt that information has been released yet. The official press release for the show states: "*Note: Model names, designs, specifications, and launch schedules are all tentative and subject to change without notice". You have to remember these are prototypes.

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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I don't want a watch with Wi-Fi - I don't want to pay for it.
Usually those are the watches that are used in combo with your phone and such so I think you are safe in that regard... unless you are the kind of person that needs to have everything that is "new and hip like" when it comes to tech stuff.

What I am baffled by is that implementing this is fairly cheap and easy... yet Pentax decided not to implement this up until now... :/
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The Market demands Wi-Fi no matter what some antiquated, grizzled old Cardinals fan thinks.
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