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01-07-2015, 10:24 AM   #256
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So does WiFi just allow for file transfer from the camera to a device such as a computer or tablet or does it offer more features including full tethering?
WiFi allows for pretty much anything you need. If your device has the software to supports it, you can even connect to Internet and browse to your hearts content!

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The Market demands Wi-Fi no matter what some antiquated, grizzled old Cardinals fan thinks.
Dude.
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Feel drawn?
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Is it only me or that built in flash looks higher than on, say, K5II?


It does look sort of "tall" in the picture relative to its width... Maybe a bigger sensor inside??

Sure would like to peal that little piece of tape off...

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It does look sort of "tall" in the picture relative to its width... Maybe a bigger sensor inside??

Sure would like to peal that little piece of tape off...
I guess that's because the camera is smaller. It looks a re-shaped K-S1 with batter grip.

Will buy one with the lens when price is reasonable.
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What I am baffled by is that implementing this is fairly cheap and easy... yet Pentax decided not to implement this up until now... :/
There is a product development model in which a new feature or technology you don't already own / haven't self-developed is introduced in steps:
  1. License the basic technology (Flucard for Pentax - Eye-Fi Menu integration)
  2. Learn and develop while implementing the licensed technology
  3. Implement the licensed technology on 'test bed', secondary platforms (Q, Q7, MX-1)
  4. Implement self-developed technology on a 'test-bed' platform (Wi-Fi on WG-30)
  5. Implement nearly finalized technology on a major product (K-xx)
  6. Continue improving future implementations of technology

If you look back at things we've asked for (Hinged LCD - MX-1, 645z - K-xx; Wi-Fi; find your own) you'll find this pattern recurring since Ricoh took over. IMHO it reflects the necessity to spread limited resources across a rich panoply of products and platforms, staying relevant while growing revenue and is part of the long term Plan to make Pentax one of the market leaders over the next 5 years.

The same type of development is happening at Ricoh Imaging America, but it is harder to see that since there aren't physical products to show in display cases.
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Feel drawn?
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I don't like built-in Wi-fi, I don't want to pay for it. Having it on a flu-card is Ok, like in K-3. Don't like big button for wifi, I want the video-recording button there, and I want the DOF-preview to be on the on/off-wheel again as it was on several previous bodies
Parody, a form of humor.
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ReferenceParody, a form of humor.
So is satire

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staying relevant while growing revenue and is part of the long term Plan to make Pentax one of the market leaders over the next 5 years.
and that's why i'm staying instead of hoping around the so called greener fields
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
There is a product development model in which a new feature or technology you don't already own / haven't self-developed is introduced in steps:
  1. License the basic technology (Flucard for Pentax - Eye-Fi Menu integration)
  2. Learn and develop while implementing the licensed technology
  3. Implement the licensed technology on 'test bed', secondary platforms (Q, Q7, MX-1)
  4. Implement self-developed technology on a 'test-bed' platform (Wi-Fi on WG-30)
  5. Implement nearly finalized technology on a major product (K-xx)
  6. Continue improving future implementations of technology

If you look back at things we've asked for (Hinged LCD - MX-1, 645z - K-xx; Wi-Fi; find your own) you'll find this pattern recurring since Ricoh took over. IMHO it reflects the necessity to spread limited resources across a rich panoply of products and platforms, staying relevant while growing revenue and is part of the long term Plan to make Pentax one of the market leaders over the next 5 years.

The same type of development is happening at Ricoh Imaging America, but it is harder to see that since there aren't physical products to show in display cases.
I'm aware of the steps required for a big corporation to implement something new... but implementing and adapting the WiFi technology is not that complicated actually. The hardware part is ready available for anyone pretty much (they don't have to develop their own parts and such) and software wise is a small change in their code to enable its functionality. The trickier part will be to build the security for it.
They should of never bother with the Flucard and they should of went directly for embedding the WiFi into their cameras from the beginning.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mrNewt Quote
software wise is a small change in their code
I've heard that so many times...
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QuoteOriginally posted by mrNewt Quote
They should of never bother with the Flucard and they should of went directly for embedding the WiFi into their cameras from the beginning.
It was tethering and the Apple app (and negotiating with Apple) that took the time (per convo. with James Malcolm and the Q Users Group April, 2013). Apple is apparently a total PITA.

And please, let's not argue about why we didn't have something sooner, now that we have it.*




*The FF posts are going to be unbearable.

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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
How much in terms of market share does NOT offering two cameras - one with and one without - cost?
Good question, but doubtful it will happen. It's now an expected feature, they won't be releasing a model without video.
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Good question, but doubtful it will happen. It's now an expected feature, they won't be releasing a model without video.
Dude. sarc tag omitted.
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Dude. sarc tag omitted.
What? Oops. I sometimes have flashbacks to 2009.

Also, I heard there's a Pentax FF just around the corner, so I won't be buying this camera anyway if it's aps-c.
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