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**luftfluss** · 01-19-2015, 12:02 AM

Apple will cram a FF sensor into a 172g iPhone before Pentax puts one in an 800g body.

Class A · 01-19-2015, 12:05 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by luftfluss

Apple will cram a FF sensor into a 172g iPhone before Pentax puts one in an 800g body.

Apple would certainly make its disciples believe it did.

totsmuyco · 01-19-2015, 02:01 AM

Let's try and do it the other way around. Let Pentax make a camera with a sim card and allow the photographer to communicate by using an earphone and mike through blue tooth or wifi. Also allow the photographer to make sms messages by dictation. Probably a touch screen to operate in android mode. If Pentax does this, for sure they will be the first. That should beat them all.

IchabodCrane · 01-19-2015, 05:11 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Indeed but not always: do you remember the Newton PDA? the QuickTake digital camera?

Some ideas are great until there's an even better idea that comes along. Apple's PDA business didn't fall apart but they were very smart to recognize that it would. Apple abandoned the PDA well before the market abandoned the PDA. Palm wasn't as smart about it.

About cameras... where is the whole digital P&S market now?

D1N0 · 01-19-2015, 05:32 AM

Canon and Nikon are still churning out ' new models'

johnmflores · 01-19-2015, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Indeed but not always: do you remember the Newton PDA? the QuickTake digital camera?

Originally posted by IchabodCrane

Some ideas are great until there's an even better idea that comes along. Apple's PDA business didn't fall apart but they were very smart to recognize that it would. Apple abandoned the PDA well before the market abandoned the PDA. Palm wasn't as smart about it.

About cameras... where is the whole digital P&S market now?

The Newton and QuickTake were in the years before Jobs' return, and before they adopted this strategy to bring technology to market only when they could be made simple to use. The Newton was fussy to use because the technology of that age was not quite up to the tasks required by it. The Palm Pilot, several years later, did much better but was still very much an early adopter product. And the QuickTake, for all of its gee whiz, was an Internet resolution device before the Internet was mainstream, before MySpace, before Friendster, etc... And for real advertising work, it was not high enough quality.

In those two cases I would not give Apple credit for reading the tea leaves and ceding a market. Palm thrived for nearly a decade, as did digital point-and-shoots. They just got it wrong.

drugal · 01-19-2015, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

allow the photographer to communicate by using an earphone and mike through blue tooth or wifi

I think it would be awesome if you could add keywords to exif data through a voice recognition system. I think the high end Cannons have a voice recording feature or similar, but it would be great to put text right into the exif ...

btnapa · 01-19-2015, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by drugal

I think it would be awesome if you could add keywords to exif data through a voice recognition system. I think the high end Cannons have a voice recording feature or similar, but it would be great to put text right into the exif ...

In that case, there is a lot more that can be voice command controlled. Take a look at where the car industry is going. In not too distant future, our cars will drive themselves. What will happen to photography, if that kind of technology were to come to our cameras?

VoiceOfReason · 01-19-2015, 08:37 AM

I have things with voice command. I generally keep it off.

johnmflores · 01-19-2015, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by VoiceOfReason

I have things with voice command. I generally keep it off.

I have Google Now on my Droid. It's really convenient for things, like when I'm cooking and my hands have stuff on them and I need to set a timer. I just say, "OK Google Now, set timer for 30 minutes." and it does it without fuss. Likewise, when I'm driving, I can just say, "OK Google Now, navigate to home." and it will start up Google Maps and plan a route home.

It's not perfect but when it works it's quite nice. It will only get better with time.

jcdoss · 01-19-2015, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

It's not perfect but when it works it's quite nice. It will only get better with time.

John, ask your Droid, "OK Google Now, Is Pentax DOOOMED?"

bobell69 · 01-19-2015, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by drugal

I think it would be awesome if you could add keywords to exif data through a voice recognition system. I think the high end Cannons have a voice recording feature or similar, but it would be great to put text right into the exif ...

in 2000 I purchased an Epson 850Z point and shoot that had an audio record feature. I used it a couple of times, but it didn't appeal to me. I can see in some circumstances it would be useful, but you would only being able to apply the feature to single frame shooting. Problem of course if you programmed it for a three second audio recording and you're busy recording a few words to go along with the shot and then something really important happens, you may not be able to take another shot until the three seconds is up. That's the downside to the technology.

johnmflores · 01-19-2015, 12:23 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by jcdoss

John, ask your Droid, "OK Google Now, Is Pentax DOOOMED?"

Here you go.

Kunzite · 01-19-2015, 12:35 PM

FAIL. That's the answer to: "is there any hope for Pentax?"

Docrwm · 01-19-2015, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by jcdoss

John, ask your Droid, "OK Google Now, Is Pentax DOOOMED?"

We all know the answer to that one! Pentax is doomed!

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01-19-2015, 12:02 AM	#736
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,628	Apple will cram a FF sensor into a 172g iPhone before Pentax puts one in an 800g body.

01-19-2015, 12:05 AM - 4 Likes	#737
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by luftfluss Apple will cram a FF sensor into a 172g iPhone before Pentax puts one in an 800g body. Apple would certainly make its disciples believe it did.

01-19-2015, 02:01 AM	#738
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Let's try and do it the other way around. Let Pentax make a camera with a sim card and allow the photographer to communicate by using an earphone and mike through blue tooth or wifi. Also allow the photographer to make sms messages by dictation. Probably a touch screen to operate in android mode. If Pentax does this, for sure they will be the first. That should beat them all.

01-19-2015, 05:11 AM	#739
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by Mistral75 Indeed but not always: do you remember the Newton PDA? the QuickTake digital camera? Some ideas are great until there's an even better idea that comes along. Apple's PDA business didn't fall apart but they were very smart to recognize that it would. Apple abandoned the PDA well before the market abandoned the PDA. Palm wasn't as smart about it. About cameras... where is the whole digital P&S market now?

01-19-2015, 05:32 AM	#740
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Canon and Nikon are still churning out ' new models'

01-19-2015, 05:37 AM	#741
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by Mistral75 Indeed but not always: do you remember the Newton PDA? the QuickTake digital camera? Originally posted by IchabodCrane Some ideas are great until there's an even better idea that comes along. Apple's PDA business didn't fall apart but they were very smart to recognize that it would. Apple abandoned the PDA well before the market abandoned the PDA. Palm wasn't as smart about it. About cameras... where is the whole digital P&S market now? The Newton and QuickTake were in the years before Jobs' return, and before they adopted this strategy to bring technology to market only when they could be made simple to use. The Newton was fussy to use because the technology of that age was not quite up to the tasks required by it. The Palm Pilot, several years later, did much better but was still very much an early adopter product. And the QuickTake, for all of its gee whiz, was an Internet resolution device before the Internet was mainstream, before MySpace, before Friendster, etc... And for real advertising work, it was not high enough quality. In those two cases I would not give Apple credit for reading the tea leaves and ceding a market. Palm thrived for nearly a decade, as did digital point-and-shoots. They just got it wrong.

01-19-2015, 05:49 AM	#742
drugal Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Detroit suburbs Photos: Gallery Posts: 259	Originally posted by totsmuyco allow the photographer to communicate by using an earphone and mike through blue tooth or wifi I think it would be awesome if you could add keywords to exif data through a voice recognition system. I think the high end Cannons have a voice recording feature or similar, but it would be great to put text right into the exif ...

01-19-2015, 08:35 AM	#743
btnapa Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,621	Originally posted by drugal I think it would be awesome if you could add keywords to exif data through a voice recognition system. I think the high end Cannons have a voice recording feature or similar, but it would be great to put text right into the exif ... In that case, there is a lot more that can be voice command controlled. Take a look at where the car industry is going. In not too distant future, our cars will drive themselves. What will happen to photography, if that kind of technology were to come to our cameras?

01-19-2015, 08:37 AM	#744
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124	I have things with voice command. I generally keep it off.

01-19-2015, 09:01 AM	#745
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by VoiceOfReason I have things with voice command. I generally keep it off. I have Google Now on my Droid. It's really convenient for things, like when I'm cooking and my hands have stuff on them and I need to set a timer. I just say, "OK Google Now, set timer for 30 minutes." and it does it without fuss. Likewise, when I'm driving, I can just say, "OK Google Now, navigate to home." and it will start up Google Maps and plan a route home. It's not perfect but when it works it's quite nice. It will only get better with time.

01-19-2015, 09:39 AM	#746
jcdoss Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ingelheim am Rhein, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,801	Originally posted by johnmflores It's not perfect but when it works it's quite nice. It will only get better with time. John, ask your Droid, "OK Google Now, Is Pentax DOOOMED?"

01-19-2015, 12:19 PM	#747
bobell69 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Courtenay BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 498	Originally posted by drugal I think it would be awesome if you could add keywords to exif data through a voice recognition system. I think the high end Cannons have a voice recording feature or similar, but it would be great to put text right into the exif ... in 2000 I purchased an Epson 850Z point and shoot that had an audio record feature. I used it a couple of times, but it didn't appeal to me. I can see in some circumstances it would be useful, but you would only being able to apply the feature to single frame shooting. Problem of course if you programmed it for a three second audio recording and you're busy recording a few words to go along with the shot and then something really important happens, you may not be able to take another shot until the three seconds is up. That's the downside to the technology.

01-19-2015, 12:35 PM	#749
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	FAIL. That's the answer to: "is there any hope for Pentax?"

01-19-2015, 01:09 PM	#750
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by jcdoss John, ask your Droid, "OK Google Now, Is Pentax DOOOMED?" We all know the answer to that one! Pentax is doomed!

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