News at CES 2015?

RMabo · 01-06-2015, 06:44 AM

I like the design of this new Pentax DSLR. Sort of a shrinked and trimmed K-3, not as curvy as the K-50. I might get this one as a replacement for my K-10 and K-x... New kit-lens with (hopefully) DC-motor looks promising. Thumbs up from me!

JPT · 01-06-2015, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by WPRESTO

The left hand side of that Pentax body is really, really small. The body looks like an extension of the Pentax corporate concept of "we make small-form cameras." It's little more than a lens with a right-hand grip attached.

It might just be that "small" is the role they have for APS-C when their big cameras become full frame. Anyway, it does look really quite small. I hope they have fitted the larger battery in there somehow.

Is anyone at CES to get a view of the back or the other side?

mrNewt · 01-06-2015, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Enjoy!

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/review/dressup/20141008_670081.html

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/review/lens_review_2/20141010_670547.html

Quick 1st Look: Voigtlander 40/2.8 Aspherical Heliar for Sony E-Mount! | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

Which one? Sony Zeiss 35 2.8 FE and the Voigtlander 40 f/2.8 Heliar | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

The Voigtlander 40 2.8 Heliar Aspherical Lens for Sony FE Review | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

Voigtländer Heliar 40 mm f/2,8, para Sony E - DSLR Magazine

Voigtländer Heliar 40 mm f/2,8, prueba de campo y muestras - DSLR Magazine

You are killing me now...

ogl · 01-06-2015, 06:52 AM - **1 Like**

new kit is LONG AWAITED lens. tilting LCD too.

but, it's hard to understand - why they make so many slow mediocre zooms?

dreamer · 01-06-2015, 06:54 AM

Does anyone know anything about the new bodies?

**filoxophy** · 01-06-2015, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by WPRESTO

The left hand side of that Pentax body is really, really small. The body looks like an extension of the Pentax corporate concept of "we make small-form cameras." It's little more than a lens with a right-hand grip attached.

Barely looks any smaller on that side than my K-5II...maybe just by a few mm.

If what asahi man says about the DC motor is true, that's pretty cool. Looks quite minimalist for a lens with a built-in motor, though. But some of those mirrorless lenses are pretty small too.

mrNewt · 01-06-2015, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by ogl

new kit is LONG AWAITED lens. tilting LCD too.

but, it's hard to understand - why they make so many slow mediocre zooms?

If that is to be the replacement for the current kit lens, then I would not expect it to be very fast in order to keep costs low enough.

Mistral75 · 01-06-2015, 07:02 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mrNewt

Yo are killing me now...

La petite mort...

JPT · 01-06-2015, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by filoxophy

Barely looks any smaller on that side than my K-5II...maybe just by a few mm.

If what asahi man says about the DC motor is true, that's pretty cool. Looks quite minimalist for a lens with a built-in motor, though. But some of those mirrorless lenses are pretty small too.

I thought that too at first, but all mirrorless lenses that have autofocus at all have a motor in them and Pentax makes the smallest of them all, the 01 Prime for the Q.

I only hope the build quality of the lens inspires confidence and especially that the collapsing mechanism feels strong. I also hope it will have HD rather than SMC coating. I think the last new lens they introduced without HD was the DA50 1.8, which is a couple of years in the past now.

Kunzite · 01-06-2015, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by ogl

new kit is LONG AWAITED lens. tilting LCD too.

but, it's hard to understand - why they make so many slow mediocre zooms?

You're saying that making this new lens is both bad and good?

Probably they want to "fix" whatever could impede on attracting newcomers (entry and mid-level); and let's not forget they are also working on high-end lenses (which should be more difficult, and more important to get right).

dc1500 · 01-06-2015, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by 6BQ5

Very nice indeed! This could very well be Ricoh's mid-tier Pentax APS offering. Has anyone started guessing the specs? Will it have a 24 MP sensor with 12-bit RAW output? Maybe 14-bit here and 16-bit for some kind of pro level system? As a K-30 owner I may be tempted with this offering. Let's hope we get to see the back of the body soon.

Oh ... just noticed the AF switch doesnt include AF-C? Uh-oh...

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Yes - I'd hate to lose the brilliant Pentax AF-C abilities ;-)

macTak · 01-06-2015, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by mrNewt

If that is to be the replacement for the current kit lens, then I would not expect it to be very fast in order to keep costs low enough.

Also Pentax clearly considers size a major consideration in its lens plans (unlike say Sigma). I have been wondering for a few years now why, in keeping with this consideration, they did not make a collapsable kit lens like a couple of other manufactures (which would make them much more size competitive again against m4/3 and mirror-less APS-C).

Mike.P® · 01-06-2015, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by dc1500

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Yes - I'd hate to lose the brilliant Pentax AF-C abilities ;-)

Owch.

cfraz · 01-06-2015, 07:54 AM - **6 Likes**

Originally posted by ogl

but, it's hard to understand - why they make so many slow mediocre zooms?

Good question. Some possible answers:

Option 1: A mix-up in marketing when they were taking the photos. The new camera was supposed to be paired with the new large diameter zoom as their entry-level kit offering. The collapsable zoom was designed to be mounted on the 645-Z with special adapter.

Option 2: It's mediocre? I hadn't realized DPReview got their copy yet.

Option 3: Ricoh realizes an important contingent of the Pentax user community are those whose only pleasure in life is moaning about new product releases. They had to give them something.

Option 4: They wanted to capitalize on a DSLR/lens form factor that was small and didn't cost as much as a car.

...

mrNewt · 01-06-2015, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by macTak

Also Pentax clearly considers size a major consideration in its lens plans (unlike say Sigma). I have been wondering for a few years now why, in keeping with this consideration, they did not make a collapsable kit lens like a couple of other manufactures (which would make them much more size competitive again against m4/3 and mirror-less APS-C).

True, that as well.

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mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by Mistral75 Enjoy! http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/review/dressup/20141008_670081.html http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/review/lens_review_2/20141010_670547.html Quick 1st Look: Voigtlander 40/2.8 Aspherical Heliar for Sony E-Mount! \| STEVE HUFF PHOTOS Which one? Sony Zeiss 35 2.8 FE and the Voigtlander 40 f/2.8 Heliar \| STEVE HUFF PHOTOS The Voigtlander 40 2.8 Heliar Aspherical Lens for Sony FE Review \| STEVE HUFF PHOTOS Voigtländer Heliar 40 mm f/2,8, para Sony E - DSLR Magazine Voigtländer Heliar 40 mm f/2,8, prueba de campo y muestras - DSLR Magazine You are killing me now... Last edited by mrNewt; 01-06-2015 at 09:19 AM.

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01-06-2015, 06:44 AM	#106
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	I like the design of this new Pentax DSLR. Sort of a shrinked and trimmed K-3, not as curvy as the K-50. I might get this one as a replacement for my K-10 and K-x... New kit-lens with (hopefully) DC-motor looks promising. Thumbs up from me!

01-06-2015, 06:45 AM	#107
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Originally posted by WPRESTO The left hand side of that Pentax body is really, really small. The body looks like an extension of the Pentax corporate concept of "we make small-form cameras." It's little more than a lens with a right-hand grip attached. It might just be that "small" is the role they have for APS-C when their big cameras become full frame. Anyway, it does look really quite small. I hope they have fitted the larger battery in there somehow. Is anyone at CES to get a view of the back or the other side?

01-06-2015, 06:52 AM - 1 Like	#109
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	new kit is LONG AWAITED lens. tilting LCD too. but, it's hard to understand - why they make so many slow mediocre zooms?

01-06-2015, 06:54 AM	#110
dreamer New Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1	Does anyone know anything about the new bodies?

01-06-2015, 06:56 AM	#111
filoxophy Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,132	Originally posted by WPRESTO The left hand side of that Pentax body is really, really small. The body looks like an extension of the Pentax corporate concept of "we make small-form cameras." It's little more than a lens with a right-hand grip attached. Barely looks any smaller on that side than my K-5II...maybe just by a few mm. If what asahi man says about the DC motor is true, that's pretty cool. Looks quite minimalist for a lens with a built-in motor, though. But some of those mirrorless lenses are pretty small too.

01-06-2015, 06:58 AM	#112
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by ogl new kit is LONG AWAITED lens. tilting LCD too. but, it's hard to understand - why they make so many slow mediocre zooms? If that is to be the replacement for the current kit lens, then I would not expect it to be very fast in order to keep costs low enough.

01-06-2015, 07:30 AM	#114
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Originally posted by filoxophy Barely looks any smaller on that side than my K-5II...maybe just by a few mm. If what asahi man says about the DC motor is true, that's pretty cool. Looks quite minimalist for a lens with a built-in motor, though. But some of those mirrorless lenses are pretty small too. I thought that too at first, but all mirrorless lenses that have autofocus at all have a motor in them and Pentax makes the smallest of them all, the 01 Prime for the Q. I only hope the build quality of the lens inspires confidence and especially that the collapsing mechanism feels strong. I also hope it will have HD rather than SMC coating. I think the last new lens they introduced without HD was the DA50 1.8, which is a couple of years in the past now.

01-06-2015, 07:43 AM	#115
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by ogl new kit is LONG AWAITED lens. tilting LCD too. but, it's hard to understand - why they make so many slow mediocre zooms? You're saying that making this new lens is both bad and good? Probably they want to "fix" whatever could impede on attracting newcomers (entry and mid-level); and let's not forget they are also working on high-end lenses (which should be more difficult, and more important to get right).

01-06-2015, 07:43 AM	#116
dc1500 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Essex Posts: 105	Originally posted by 6BQ5 Very nice indeed! This could very well be Ricoh's mid-tier Pentax APS offering. Has anyone started guessing the specs? Will it have a 24 MP sensor with 12-bit RAW output? Maybe 14-bit here and 16-bit for some kind of pro level system? As a K-30 owner I may be tempted with this offering. Let's hope we get to see the back of the body soon. Oh ... just noticed the AF switch doesnt include AF-C? Uh-oh... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes - I'd hate to lose the brilliant Pentax AF-C abilities ;-)

01-06-2015, 07:44 AM	#117
macTak Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 759	Originally posted by mrNewt If that is to be the replacement for the current kit lens, then I would not expect it to be very fast in order to keep costs low enough. Also Pentax clearly considers size a major consideration in its lens plans (unlike say Sigma). I have been wondering for a few years now why, in keeping with this consideration, they did not make a collapsable kit lens like a couple of other manufactures (which would make them much more size competitive again against m4/3 and mirror-less APS-C).

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01-06-2015, 07:49 AM	#118
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by dc1500 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes - I'd hate to lose the brilliant Pentax AF-C abilities ;-) Owch.

01-06-2015, 07:54 AM - 6 Likes	#119
cfraz Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 521	Originally posted by ogl but, it's hard to understand - why they make so many slow mediocre zooms? Good question. Some possible answers: Option 1: A mix-up in marketing when they were taking the photos. The new camera was supposed to be paired with the new large diameter zoom as their entry-level kit offering. The collapsable zoom was designed to be mounted on the 645-Z with special adapter. Option 2: It's mediocre? I hadn't realized DPReview got their copy yet. Option 3: Ricoh realizes an important contingent of the Pentax user community are those whose only pleasure in life is moaning about new product releases. They had to give them something. Option 4: They wanted to capitalize on a DSLR/lens form factor that was small and didn't cost as much as a car. ...

01-06-2015, 07:55 AM	#120
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by macTak Also Pentax clearly considers size a major consideration in its lens plans (unlike say Sigma). I have been wondering for a few years now why, in keeping with this consideration, they did not make a collapsable kit lens like a couple of other manufactures (which would make them much more size competitive again against m4/3 and mirror-less APS-C). True, that as well.