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02-12-2015, 07:37 AM   #736
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QuoteOriginally posted by beachgardener Quote
I think they have done, so far, a great job in keeping the FF size down, maybe similar to K-3 or a smidgen bigger, not much in it.
My extrapolation tells me that it's not far different from K-3 size.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RuiC Quote
My extrapolation tells me that it's not far different from K-3 size.
Yes. From the top a bit wider and deeper on the grip side. A bit higher to accommodate the larger viewfinder.
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I've been expecting CP+ to be anti-climatic after all the all the announcements last week. I'm glad that people are already finding things to get excited about!
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More coverage in pics from the ricoh booth, some close ups of the two new lenses, accessories and more

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It looks just about perfect except for the missing flash. Extra dedicated button on the left (af-mode raw/fx, and?) Where has the lv/movie button moved to?
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I have always wondered how they do those cutaways so cleanly, does anyone know?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
The Af module (Safox XI) looks like a direct transplant from the K3 which is a bit disappointing, I was hopping for a new module with better performance to bridge the gap from the big dogs. Here's to hoping for better coverage of those 27 points at least....
I have the same fears, but hope that this is a spec that will be updated by the time it hits the market. Imho xi was a fine step forward for the k3, and viable choice for the 645z, but it will be out-dated and struggle to compete with the AF capabilities of its competitors if applied to ff format and use. Improvement in this single area would have a massive impact the public perception / reception of the new camera. Good reviews sell Pentax and that is in all of our best interests.

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QuoteOriginally posted by indy Quote
I have the same fears, but hope that this is a spec that will be updated by the time it hits the market. Imho xi was a fine step forward for the k3, and viable choice for the 645z, but it will be out-dated and struggle to compete with the AF capabilities of its competitors if applied to ff format and use. Improvement in this single area would have a massive impact the public perception / reception of the new camera. Good reviews sell Pentax and that is in all of our best interests.
When the K3 Safox XI was tested in the forum it had a keeper rate of 67% coupled with the Da* 60-250 as compared to the 96% on the Nikon D610 which used the 70-200mm f2.8. The D610 AF is said to be comparable to the D710 (not the best in the Nikon lineup) Adam should reexamine the AF performance of the K3 once he gets his hands on the new D-Fa* 70-200mm f2.8. I expect the Safox XI + 70-200mm f2.8 keeper rate to plateau at 80-85%. If this was the case, this still puts Pentax behind the competition by a considerable margin. Upgrading the image sensor over the K3 (and puting NFC, Wifi) should be reason enough for the upgrade. I hope that Ricoh/Pentax start investing more in R&D and shorten the cycles of their AF module updates in the future.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
When the K3 Safox XI was tested in the forum it had a keeper rate of 67% coupled with the Da* 60-250 as compared to the 96% on the Nikon D610 which used the 70-200mm f2.8. The D610 AF is said to be comparable to the D710 (not the best in the Nikon lineup) Adam should reexamine the AF performance of the K3 once he gets his hands on the new D-Fa* 70-200mm f2.8. I expect the Safox XI + 70-200mm f2.8 keeper rate to plateau at 80-85%. If this was the case, this still puts Pentax behind the competition by a considerable margin. Upgrading the image sensor over the K3 (and puting NFC, Wifi) should be reason enough for the upgrade. I hope that Ricoh/Pentax start investing more in R&D and shorten the cycles of their AF module updates in the future.
Hopefully the 2 new Pentax long zooms are a round-about indicator that they will do a major re-work of the AF. Attaching what look to be spectacular new FF lenses to a body with 3 year old and underperforming AF would be a strange move by Ricoh.
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A K-3 and the mockup. Matched sizes based on the hot shoe.
Hopefully the price will be small too. We can hope!
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Price will not be small, that a dream.
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I hope the price won't be small. I hope it will be just high enough for a quality product.
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Does anyone know what the new Pentax Da 18-50mm is made out of, plastic or metal? It looks a lot like a FA 43mm from the pictures. The price point of 229.99 makes me wonder.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
When the K3 Safox XI was tested in the forum it had a keeper rate of 67% coupled with the Da* 60-250 as compared to the 96% on the Nikon D610 which used the 70-200mm f2.8.
Well, I guess that was a controlled experiment. However, in practice, I get far more than 67% in perfect focus with my K3. In fact, it's common for me to return from a shoot with a couple of hundred shots and none with bad focus, or maybe one or two where it was my fault in some way. I don't have the DA* 60-250; you can see my lens collection below. This is far better than the K5. I usually shoot with spot focus.

Is anyone really only getting 67% AF success with the K3?
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