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**vcollerp** · 02-02-2015, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

That line confirms many fears of the pricing of the future product.

Actually not, on this forum if it priced the same as Canikon stuff it is too expensive

grispie · 02-02-2015, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

It's not a big secret that Pentax is releasing a FF anymore, but they will release things in the right order. They will release a few thing before the FF is dropped. I really dont know the exact date for the FF, yet..

So basically, you don't really know much?

sorry, evil me :-)

kenspo · 02-02-2015, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by grispie

So basically, you don't really know much?

sorry, evil me :-)

I know more then enough

**Belnan** · 02-02-2015, 08:03 AM

Until I see said product on store shelves or virtual shelves I will remain skeptical. I talked to guy that thought he knew too and he was wrong (to his surprise). just sayin.

Heck they could have a mockup and we still might not see it for another 10 years.

kenspo · 02-02-2015, 08:17 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Belnan

Until I see said product on store shelves or virtual shelves I will remain skeptical. I talked to guy that thought he knew too and he was wrong (to his surprise). just sayin.

Heck they could have a mockup and we still might not see it for another 10 years.

You have to start see what Pentax has done the last year and the way they want to turn. Do you really think they start to sign pro's without a new pro-camera in the near future? And no, the K-3 is nowhere near pro-cameras from other brands. It's ok, but not WOW! The FF will be! I didnt accept their offer just to get a lot of free stuff, when what i had from before was better! BUT i liked what they had to show me of what is coming, their plans, vision for the future and where they want to go. I really couldnt give a shit about stuff that has been said before i signed for a little under a year ago. I only care about now and the future. I can understand that some might be sceptical when i hear about stuff that has been said before, but again, i really really dont give a shit about the past! You all can be as skeptical and negative as you want, you can even go after me, but i still will be smiling and looking forward to all i KNOW is on the way. Ricoh/Pentax are really trying to change, become better and also grow into the pro-marked, no matter what you say, think or feel. I dont think i will bother anymore, trying to convince the negative keyboard-warriors out there..I know they will get something to complain about no matter what the future brings. Pentax talks to me, they show me stuff, and they tell me stuff..So i know. But i think i will stop wasting energy in trying to bring some small leaks to give people something to look forward too..I have better things to do then constantly have to defend my self. So have a nice day all, positive as negative ones

*rant*

**monochrome** · 02-02-2015, 08:18 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by rawr

I can't believe we could only have a few days to wait before we might be able to put an end to all the FF speculation threads here on PentaxForums. The place won't seem the same.

The DPReview review outrage threads ought to be fun.

Originally posted by vcollerp

I will back you up also got the mail. May stop the speculation but will start the Pentax is doomed threads because the price is to high.

Typical Forum Member: "Meh. "I'll buy it in six months when the price comes down."

**monochrome** · 02-02-2015, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

You have to start see what Pentax has done the last year and the way they want to turn. Do you really think they start to sign pro's without a new pro-camera in the near future? And no, the K-3 is nowhere near pro-cameras from other brands. It's ok, but not WOW! The FF will be! I didnt accept their offer just to get a lot of free stuff, when what i had from before was better! BUT i liked what they had to show me of what is coming, their plans, vision for the future and where they want to go. I really couldnt give a shit about stuff that has been said before i signed for a little under a year ago. I only care about now and the future. I can understand that some might be sceptical when i hear about stuff that has been said before, but again, i really really dont give a shit about the past! You all can be as skeptical and negative as you want, you can even go after me, but i still will be smiling and looking forward to all i KNOW is on the way. Ricoh/Pentax are really trying to change, become better and also grow into the pro-marked, no matter what you say, think or feel. I dont think i will bother anymore, trying to convince the negative keyboard-warriors out there..I know they will get something to complain about no matter what the future brings. Pentax talks to me, they show me stuff, and they tell me stuff..So i know. But i think i will stop wasting energy in trying to bring some small leaks to give people something to look forward too..I have better things to do then constantly have to defend my self. So have a nice day all, positive as negative ones

*rant*

Well I, for one, have been saying,

"Be of Good Cheer, Pentaxians! RICOH has a Plan, and you will be HAPPY!!" since December, 2012.

D1N0 · 02-02-2015, 08:23 AM - **1 Like**

I don't want a PRO camera. I don't need a D4 or a 1Dx. I want a prosumer FF. A K-3 FF. That's it. It has to be kind of affordable. If it is a pro then I will wait for it to fail and then buy it for a third of it's launch price

. When Pentax makes a pro Camera they haven't been listening to their customers. Did we tell them that we wanted to become pro's? Then we would have moved to Canonikon long ago.

Docrwm · 02-02-2015, 08:24 AM

Just remember - PID!

Clavius · 02-02-2015, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by vcollerp

Actually not, on this forum if it priced the same as Canikon stuff it is too expensive

You've misread me. From the comment I'm concluding that the price of the Pentax FF is going to be hard to swallow.

**Belnan** · 02-02-2015, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

You have to start see what Pentax has done the last year and the way they want to turn. Do you really think they start to sign pro's without a new pro-camera in the near future? And no, the K-3 is nowhere near pro-cameras from other brands. It's ok, but not WOW! The FF will be! I didnt accept their offer just to get a lot of free stuff, when what i had from before was better! BUT i liked what they had to show me of what is coming, their plans, vision for the future and where they want to go. I really couldnt give a shit about stuff that has been said before i signed for a little under a year ago. I only care about now and the future. I can understand that some might be sceptical when i hear about stuff that has been said before, but again, i really really dont give a shit about the past! You all can be as skeptical and negative as you want, you can even go after me, but i still will be smiling and looking forward to all i KNOW is on the way. Ricoh/Pentax are really trying to change, become better and also grow into the pro-marked, no matter what you say, think or feel. I dont think i will bother anymore, trying to convince the negative keyboard-warriors out there..I know they will get something to complain about no matter what the future brings. Pentax talks to me, they show me stuff, and they tell me stuff..So i know. But i think i will stop wasting energy in trying to bring some small leaks to give people something to look forward too..I have better things to do then constantly have to defend my self. So have a nice day all, positive as negative ones

*rant*

OK. I apologise, careful what you say. I wouldnt want you to get in trouble. To be honest I can see the writing on the wall, it is my Job to see what is coming next, and to be unmodest I am pretty good at it. Good things ahead.

D1N0 · 02-02-2015, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by Docrwm

Just remember - PID!

Pelvic Inflammatory Disease?

**vcollerp** · 02-02-2015, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

You've misread me. From the comment I'm concluding that the price of the Pentax FF is going to be hard to swallow.

Ok sorry, I was commenting on the lens prices. We all know that a Pentax 150-450 is going to more expensive than a Sigma 50-500.

No clue on the FF price.

**Belnan** · 02-02-2015, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Pelvic Inflammatory Disease?

Sounds Nasty.

repaap · 02-02-2015, 08:47 AM

Pentax/ricoh has been building Pro market already with 645Z and seems like they wan't to grow further. It does not happen over night. And so much antipation and marketing people to be turned around and get on your side from canikon world to have footstep, that no one can just wait everything happening fast. But it is getting there. And I'm happy that Ricoh has taken their time.

I'm really happy with my K-3 and I'd like to have good companion for it for my shooting gigs. K-7 is not enough as second cam. K-3 would be

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02-02-2015, 07:37 AM	#406
vcollerp Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vereeniging South Africa Posts: 208	Originally posted by Clavius That line confirms many fears of the pricing of the future product. Actually not, on this forum if it priced the same as Canikon stuff it is too expensive

02-02-2015, 07:45 AM	#407
grispie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by kenspo It's not a big secret that Pentax is releasing a FF anymore, but they will release things in the right order. They will release a few thing before the FF is dropped. I really dont know the exact date for the FF, yet.. So basically, you don't really know much? sorry, evil me :-)

02-02-2015, 07:56 AM	#408
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by grispie So basically, you don't really know much? sorry, evil me :-) I know more then enough

02-02-2015, 08:03 AM	#409
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Until I see said product on store shelves or virtual shelves I will remain skeptical. I talked to guy that thought he knew too and he was wrong (to his surprise). just sayin. Heck they could have a mockup and we still might not see it for another 10 years.

02-02-2015, 08:17 AM - 1 Like	#410
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by Belnan Until I see said product on store shelves or virtual shelves I will remain skeptical. I talked to guy that thought he knew too and he was wrong (to his surprise). just sayin. Heck they could have a mockup and we still might not see it for another 10 years. You have to start see what Pentax has done the last year and the way they want to turn. Do you really think they start to sign pro's without a new pro-camera in the near future? And no, the K-3 is nowhere near pro-cameras from other brands. It's ok, but not WOW! The FF will be! I didnt accept their offer just to get a lot of free stuff, when what i had from before was better! BUT i liked what they had to show me of what is coming, their plans, vision for the future and where they want to go. I really couldnt give a shit about stuff that has been said before i signed for a little under a year ago. I only care about now and the future. I can understand that some might be sceptical when i hear about stuff that has been said before, but again, i really really dont give a shit about the past! You all can be as skeptical and negative as you want, you can even go after me, but i still will be smiling and looking forward to all i KNOW is on the way. Ricoh/Pentax are really trying to change, become better and also grow into the pro-marked, no matter what you say, think or feel. I dont think i will bother anymore, trying to convince the negative keyboard-warriors out there..I know they will get something to complain about no matter what the future brings. Pentax talks to me, they show me stuff, and they tell me stuff..So i know. But i think i will stop wasting energy in trying to bring some small leaks to give people something to look forward too..I have better things to do then constantly have to defend my self. So have a nice day all, positive as negative ones rant

02-02-2015, 08:18 AM - 1 Like	#411
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by rawr I can't believe we could only have a few days to wait before we might be able to put an end to all the FF speculation threads here on PentaxForums. The place won't seem the same. The DPReview review outrage threads ought to be fun. Originally posted by vcollerp I will back you up also got the mail. May stop the speculation but will start the Pentax is doomed threads because the price is to high. Typical Forum Member: "Meh. "I'll buy it in six months when the price comes down."

02-02-2015, 08:20 AM	#412
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by kenspo You have to start see what Pentax has done the last year and the way they want to turn. Do you really think they start to sign pro's without a new pro-camera in the near future? And no, the K-3 is nowhere near pro-cameras from other brands. It's ok, but not WOW! The FF will be! I didnt accept their offer just to get a lot of free stuff, when what i had from before was better! BUT i liked what they had to show me of what is coming, their plans, vision for the future and where they want to go. I really couldnt give a shit about stuff that has been said before i signed for a little under a year ago. I only care about now and the future. I can understand that some might be sceptical when i hear about stuff that has been said before, but again, i really really dont give a shit about the past! You all can be as skeptical and negative as you want, you can even go after me, but i still will be smiling and looking forward to all i KNOW is on the way. Ricoh/Pentax are really trying to change, become better and also grow into the pro-marked, no matter what you say, think or feel. I dont think i will bother anymore, trying to convince the negative keyboard-warriors out there..I know they will get something to complain about no matter what the future brings. Pentax talks to me, they show me stuff, and they tell me stuff..So i know. But i think i will stop wasting energy in trying to bring some small leaks to give people something to look forward too..I have better things to do then constantly have to defend my self. So have a nice day all, positive as negative ones rant Well I, for one, have been saying, *"Be of Good Cheer, Pentaxians! RICOH has a Plan, and you will be HAPPY!!"* since December, 2012.

02-02-2015, 08:23 AM - 1 Like	#413
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	I don't want a PRO camera. I don't need a D4 or a 1Dx. I want a prosumer FF. A K-3 FF. That's it. It has to be kind of affordable. If it is a pro then I will wait for it to fail and then buy it for a third of it's launch price . When Pentax makes a pro Camera they haven't been listening to their customers. Did we tell them that we wanted to become pro's? Then we would have moved to Canonikon long ago.

02-02-2015, 08:24 AM	#414
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285 Original Poster	Just remember - PID!

02-02-2015, 08:34 AM	#415
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by vcollerp Actually not, on this forum if it priced the same as Canikon stuff it is too expensive You've misread me. From the comment I'm concluding that the price of the Pentax FF is going to be hard to swallow.

02-02-2015, 08:35 AM	#416
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by kenspo You have to start see what Pentax has done the last year and the way they want to turn. Do you really think they start to sign pro's without a new pro-camera in the near future? And no, the K-3 is nowhere near pro-cameras from other brands. It's ok, but not WOW! The FF will be! I didnt accept their offer just to get a lot of free stuff, when what i had from before was better! BUT i liked what they had to show me of what is coming, their plans, vision for the future and where they want to go. I really couldnt give a shit about stuff that has been said before i signed for a little under a year ago. I only care about now and the future. I can understand that some might be sceptical when i hear about stuff that has been said before, but again, i really really dont give a shit about the past! You all can be as skeptical and negative as you want, you can even go after me, but i still will be smiling and looking forward to all i KNOW is on the way. Ricoh/Pentax are really trying to change, become better and also grow into the pro-marked, no matter what you say, think or feel. I dont think i will bother anymore, trying to convince the negative keyboard-warriors out there..I know they will get something to complain about no matter what the future brings. Pentax talks to me, they show me stuff, and they tell me stuff..So i know. But i think i will stop wasting energy in trying to bring some small leaks to give people something to look forward too..I have better things to do then constantly have to defend my self. So have a nice day all, positive as negative ones rant OK. I apologise, careful what you say. I wouldnt want you to get in trouble. To be honest I can see the writing on the wall, it is my Job to see what is coming next, and to be unmodest I am pretty good at it. Good things ahead.

02-02-2015, 08:42 AM	#417
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by Docrwm Just remember - PID! Pelvic Inflammatory Disease?

02-02-2015, 08:45 AM	#418
vcollerp Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vereeniging South Africa Posts: 208	Originally posted by Clavius You've misread me. From the comment I'm concluding that the price of the Pentax FF is going to be hard to swallow. Ok sorry, I was commenting on the lens prices. We all know that a Pentax 150-450 is going to more expensive than a Sigma 50-500. No clue on the FF price.

02-02-2015, 08:45 AM	#419
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by D1N0 Pelvic Inflammatory Disease? Sounds Nasty.

02-02-2015, 08:47 AM	#420
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Pentax/ricoh has been building Pro market already with 645Z and seems like they wan't to grow further. It does not happen over night. And so much antipation and marketing people to be turned around and get on your side from canikon world to have footstep, that no one can just wait everything happening fast. But it is getting there. And I'm happy that Ricoh has taken their time. I'm really happy with my K-3 and I'd like to have good companion for it for my shooting gigs. K-7 is not enough as second cam. K-3 would be