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thibs · 02-04-2015, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

The Dfa 200 macro would be exciting

Yeah, I thought about that one after pushing the "Submit Reply" button but came to the conclusion someone else would add it to the list

hoopsontoast · 02-04-2015, 06:21 AM

Originally posted by zzeitg

What I would like to see in DFA version:

Primes:
DFA 20 f2.8
DFA 28 f2.8
DFA 50 f1.7
DFA 85 f1.4
DFA 135 f2.8
DFA 200 f4 macro

Zooms:
DFA 20-35 f4
DFA 28-70 f2.8
DFA 70-200 f2.8 (5th February, right?)
DFA 250-600 f5.6

Plus one fish-eye and that's all I need

(And some of the lenses I already have in FA...)

The Pentax advantage with majority of their primes, I would like to see carried on with the compact/lightweight ethos if the FF is to have a USP over Canon or Nikon (and Sony for that matter).

thibs · 02-04-2015, 06:21 AM

Originally posted by dcshooter

Yes, that's absolutely true. But either way, it points out that Tokina has been perfectly willing in the past to work in the K mount, and likely what keeps them from doing so now is simply low demand. Perhaps, if we are lucky, a new hit body might change their minds...

Indeed.
If only this FF could bring back (mid-term) Tokina, Tamron, high end Sigmas and Zeiss ZK ranges....

---------- Post added 04-02-15 at 14:22 ----------

Originally posted by hoopsontoast

The Pentax advantage with majority of their primes, I would like to see carried on with the compact/lightweight ethos if the FF is to have a USP over Canon or Nikon (and Sony for that matter).

Right, but don't forget this old FA50 is: screwdriven and without ILIS. Motors take, IMO, big space.

hoopsontoast · 02-04-2015, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Indeed.
If only this FF could bring back (mid-term) Tokina, Tamron, high end Sigmas and Zeiss ZK ranges....

---------- Post added 04-02-15 at 14:22 ----------

Right, but don't forget this old FA50 is: screwdriven and without ILIS. Motors take, IMO, big space.

And 'new' Voigtlander lenses.... (20mm, 28mm, 40mm, 58mm)
Lenses - Specialist Photographic Suppliers

afan137 · 02-04-2015, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by hoopsontoast

And 'new' Voigtlander lenses.... (20mm, 28mm, 40mm, 58mm)
Lenses - Specialist Photographic Suppliers

Voightlnder and Zeiss for primes. Tamron and Sigma for telezooms. That will be perfect for K-mount.

Mike.P® · 02-04-2015, 06:41 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by totsmuyco

The Dfa 200 macro would be exciting

Mistral75 · 02-04-2015, 07:02 AM - **1 Like**

Do you know that, when the FA* 200mm f/4 was still available, Pentax sold no more than two to three copies per year in France?

thibs · 02-04-2015, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Do you know that, when the FA* 200mm f/4 was still available, Pentax sold no more than two to three copies per year in France?

Not surprised at all. I dunno about tha A but the FA price was skyrocket at that time.
Can't imagine a current price for it. It was also known for a pristine IQ.

zzeitg · 02-04-2015, 07:15 AM

I found A* 200 macro on ebay yesterday. Now when I wanted to post here the link, I can't find it anymore... Sold.

It's irony that the seller's address is only about 100 km far from where I live.

But the price was extreme... 3000 USD.

Mistral75 · 02-04-2015, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Not surprised at all. I dunno about tha A but the FA price was skyrocket at that time.
Can't imagine a current price for it. It was also known for a pristine IQ.

FA* 200mm f/4 Macro: €1,599 in April 2002 (same price as FA* 200mm f/2.8). FA 100mm f/2.8 Macro was €699.

banep · 02-04-2015, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by thibs

But it is clear that recently (since their colla boration with Pentax) they never sold their lenses for Pentax, not even lenses made outside the Pentax collaboration.
As for "Tokina collaborated lenses", most but one or two were Pentax designs sold to Tokina, not the other way around.

Tokina announced Canon and Nikon versions of AT-X Pro 12-24 well before Pentax announced DA 12-24.
So DA 12-24 is very probably Tokina design but could be some kind of collaboration where Tokina was just more efficient in production phase.

Raffwal · 02-04-2015, 08:34 AM

So let's play the game and assume that the unico... FF Pentax is coming. What have Ricoh representatives actually said about it? It is to be of K mount. And a DSLR IIRC. But do we know if screw AF will be supported or SDM/DC/HSM only? And I guess IBIS is a given - or is it?

**monochrome** · 02-04-2015, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by Raffwal

So let's play the game and assume that the unico... FF Pentax is coming. What have Ricoh representatives actually said about it? It is to be of K mount. And a DSLR IIRC. But do we know if screw AF will be supported or SDM/DC/HSM only? And I guess IBIS is a given - or is it?

Not a direct statement, but from asahi man

"Pictures of the new body are out,but only for show in the offices.
Also at CP+ public will see more about the camera.
It is bigger than K-3 and not the same Style,but simmilar.
No design experiment."

zzeitg · 02-04-2015, 08:57 AM

No screw AF support --> no purchase.

Kunzite · 02-04-2015, 09:11 AM

Of course the camera will support screw drive AF.

02-04-2015, 08:55 AM	#583
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Raffwal So let's play the game and assume that the unico... FF Pentax is coming. What have Ricoh representatives actually said about it? It is to be of K mount. And a DSLR IIRC. But do we know if screw AF will be supported or SDM/DC/HSM only? And I guess IBIS is a given - or is it? Not a direct statement, but from asahi man "Pictures of the new body are out,but only for show in the offices. Also at CP+ public will see more about the camera. It is bigger than K-3 and not the same Style,but simmilar. No design experiment."

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02-04-2015, 06:11 AM	#571
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by totsmuyco The Dfa 200 macro would be exciting Yeah, I thought about that one after pushing the "Submit Reply" button but came to the conclusion someone else would add it to the list

02-04-2015, 06:21 AM	#572
hoopsontoast Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 861	Originally posted by zzeitg What I would like to see in DFA version: Primes: DFA 20 f2.8 DFA 28 f2.8 DFA 50 f1.7 DFA 85 f1.4 DFA 135 f2.8 DFA 200 f4 macro Zooms: DFA 20-35 f4 DFA 28-70 f2.8 DFA 70-200 f2.8 (5th February, right?) DFA 250-600 f5.6 Plus one fish-eye and that's all I need (And some of the lenses I already have in FA...) The Pentax advantage with majority of their primes, I would like to see carried on with the compact/lightweight ethos if the FF is to have a USP over Canon or Nikon (and Sony for that matter).

02-04-2015, 06:21 AM	#573
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by dcshooter Yes, that's absolutely true. But either way, it points out that Tokina has been perfectly willing in the past to work in the K mount, and likely what keeps them from doing so now is simply low demand. Perhaps, if we are lucky, a new hit body might change their minds... Indeed. If only this FF could bring back (mid-term) Tokina, Tamron, high end Sigmas and Zeiss ZK ranges.... ---------- Post added 04-02-15 at 14:22 ---------- Originally posted by hoopsontoast The Pentax advantage with majority of their primes, I would like to see carried on with the compact/lightweight ethos if the FF is to have a USP over Canon or Nikon (and Sony for that matter). Right, but don't forget this old FA50 is: screwdriven and without ILIS. Motors take, IMO, big space.

02-04-2015, 06:26 AM	#574
hoopsontoast Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 861	Originally posted by thibs Indeed. If only this FF could bring back (mid-term) Tokina, Tamron, high end Sigmas and Zeiss ZK ranges.... ---------- Post added 04-02-15 at 14:22 ---------- Right, but don't forget this old FA50 is: screwdriven and without ILIS. Motors take, IMO, big space. And 'new' Voigtlander lenses.... (20mm, 28mm, 40mm, 58mm) Lenses - Specialist Photographic Suppliers

02-04-2015, 06:36 AM	#575
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	Originally posted by hoopsontoast And 'new' Voigtlander lenses.... (20mm, 28mm, 40mm, 58mm) Lenses - Specialist Photographic Suppliers Voightlnder and Zeiss for primes. Tamron and Sigma for telezooms. That will be perfect for K-mount.

02-04-2015, 06:41 AM - 1 Like	#576
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by totsmuyco The Dfa 200 macro would be exciting

02-04-2015, 07:02 AM - 1 Like	#577
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Do you know that, when the FA* 200mm f/4 was still available, Pentax sold no more than two to three copies per year in France?

02-04-2015, 07:07 AM	#578
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Mistral75 Do you know that, when the FA* 200mm f/4 was still available, Pentax sold no more than two to three copies per year in France? Not surprised at all. I dunno about tha A but the FA price was skyrocket at that time. Can't imagine a current price for it. It was also known for a pristine IQ.

02-04-2015, 07:15 AM	#579
zzeitg Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: South Bohemia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,017	I found A* 200 macro on ebay yesterday. Now when I wanted to post here the link, I can't find it anymore... Sold. It's irony that the seller's address is only about 100 km far from where I live. But the price was extreme... 3000 USD.

02-04-2015, 07:18 AM	#580
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by thibs Not surprised at all. I dunno about tha A but the FA price was skyrocket at that time. Can't imagine a current price for it. It was also known for a pristine IQ. FA* 200mm f/4 Macro: €1,599 in April 2002 (same price as FA* 200mm f/2.8). FA 100mm f/2.8 Macro was €699.

02-04-2015, 08:20 AM	#581
banep Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 360	Originally posted by thibs But it is clear that recently (since their colla boration with Pentax) they never sold their lenses for Pentax, not even lenses made outside the Pentax collaboration. As for "Tokina collaborated lenses", most but one or two were Pentax designs sold to Tokina, not the other way around. Tokina announced Canon and Nikon versions of AT-X Pro 12-24 well before Pentax announced DA 12-24. So DA 12-24 is very probably Tokina design but could be some kind of collaboration where Tokina was just more efficient in production phase.

02-04-2015, 08:34 AM	#582
Raffwal Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The North Posts: 879	So let's play the game and assume that the unico... FF Pentax is coming. What have Ricoh representatives actually said about it? It is to be of K mount. And a DSLR IIRC. But do we know if screw AF will be supported or SDM/DC/HSM only? And I guess IBIS is a given - or is it?

02-04-2015, 08:57 AM	#584
zzeitg Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: South Bohemia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,017	No screw AF support --> no purchase.

02-04-2015, 09:11 AM	#585
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Of course the camera will support screw drive AF.