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NickLarsson · 02-05-2015, 02:21 PM

Read on SAR :

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The big FFs from Pentax:
Pentax announced that they will release their first digital Full Frame DSLR by end of 2015. As you know Pentax use Sony sensors on their APS-C DSLR so I guess it’s highly likely Pentax will use the new 46-50MP Sony FF sensor on that camera too!

repaap · 02-05-2015, 02:44 PM

It would make sence to have 36MP, with really good ISO, fine tuning on focus points for FF(and new to become 645). To make FF new experimenting ground for 645. Followed with 86k color metering system. And possibly -4 ev. Sensitivity for focusing. Also for step for new 645 and aps-c to make domination in 3 levels...just a thought. Not making FF just for FF.

jimr-pdx · 02-05-2015, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by beachgardener

one that is for sure is that there will be plenty of bargains on the for sale forum over the next 12-18 months

On DA lenses, I reckon so. Oh what fun!

**beachgardener** · 02-05-2015, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by jimr-pdx

On DA lenses, I reckon so. Oh what fun!

yes and sale of cameras on the upgrade path.

**jpzk** · 02-05-2015, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by beachgardener

Originally posted by jimr-pdx On DA lenses, I reckon so. Oh what fun! yes and sale of cameras on the upgrade path.

You bet, lots of stuff at great prices ... including some of my gear soon !

**NaClH2O** · 02-05-2015, 04:37 PM

I think also some FA lenses will be on the market at much higher prices than current. I imagine that the 3 amigos will go up in price, along with the FA 35mm f/2.0; all the FA * lenses (tho many of those are beyond reach of many of us already) I would also imagine that some of the premier K, and A lenses will also go up in price. I doubt that the new body can out resolve the K 135mm f/2.5, all the A* primes, a few others.

NaCl(can you say feeding frenzy?)H2O

kenspo · 02-06-2015, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Raffwal

Didn't the Pentaxeros leak (sorta "confirmed" by kenspo) say 36 Mpix?

---------- Post added 05-02-15 at 22:21 ----------

Ficha especificaciones técnicas Pentax Full Frame - Pentax Full Frame

36 Mpix

What i said is "I see a spanish site that post the specs too..But i wont confirm them..Not at this moment." - Because its pure speculations atm Most logical will be 36mpx with 24mpx crop, or 24mpx with 16mpx crop. It cant be higher, because then the FF will be a direct competitor with the 645Z.

Clavius · 02-06-2015, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Most logical will be 36mpx with 24mpx crop, or 24mpx with 16mpx crop. It cant be higher, because then the FF will be a direct competitor with the 645Z.

It can never directly compete with the 645Z, because of the difference in format. Just like 24mp APS-C and 24mp FF system won't hurt each other either.

Mistral75 · 02-06-2015, 04:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kenspo

What i said is "I see a spanish site that post the specs too..But i wont confirm them..Not at this moment." - Because its pure speculations atm Most logical will be 36mpx with 24mpx crop, or 24mpx with 16mpx crop. It cant be higher, because then the FF will be a direct competitor with the 645Z.

36 Mpix on 24x36 sensor gives a 16 Mpix APS-C crop, not 24. And 24 Mpix gives a 10,7 Mpix APS-C crop.

IchabodCrane · 02-06-2015, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

36 Mpix on 24x36 sensor gives a 16 Mpix APS-C crop, not 24. And 24 Mpix gives a 10,7 Mpix APS-C crop.

Unless there's a crop factor available other than the standard 1.53. In fact, a great feature would be a selectable crop factor with the additional option of all Pentax lenses providing the camera with the minimum crop factor for that lens.

Clavius · 02-06-2015, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by IchabodCrane

Unless there's a crop factor available other than the standard 1.53. In fact, a great feature would be a selectable crop factor with the additional option of all Pentax lenses providing the camera with the minimum crop factor for that lens.

I don't understand the need for automatic in-camera cropping. Just crop in post. I hope it's an option that can be turned off.

**boriscleto** · 02-06-2015, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

What i said is "I see a spanish site that post the specs too..But i wont confirm them..Not at this moment." - Because its pure speculations atm Most logical will be 36mpx with 24mpx crop, or 24mpx with 16mpx crop. It cant be higher, because then the FF will be a direct competitor with the 645Z.

Doesn't the D800 (36MP) crop to ~16MP?

gazonk · 02-06-2015, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

I don't understand the need for automatic in-camera cropping. Just crop in post. I hope it's an option that can be turned off.

Maybe it doesn't really crop the RAW files anyway, just the JPEGs?

It would be great if the camera provides a user-definable crop. I'd be tempted to set the DA35 Ltd to zero crop, because it seems it vignettes only at distance, not when used for close-ups. And I would probably set the DA70 to only a slight crop - maybe 1.2 to make it an approximate 85mm/f2.8

Raffwal · 02-06-2015, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

What i said is "I see a spanish site that post the specs too..But i wont confirm them..Not at this moment." - Because its pure speculations atm Most logical will be 36mpx with 24mpx crop, or 24mpx with 16mpx crop. It cant be higher, because then the FF will be a direct competitor with the 645Z.

Yes, kenspo. Hence the expression "sorta".

IchabodCrane · 02-06-2015, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

I don't understand the need for automatic in-camera cropping. Just crop in post. I hope it's an option that can be turned off.

I imagine it can be turned off but "just crop in post" then requires the user to post-process every image. Not much point in even having a JPEG engine in that case.

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02-05-2015, 02:21 PM	#646
NickLarsson Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,390	Read on SAR : Quote: The big FFs from Pentax: Pentax announced that they will release their first digital Full Frame DSLR by end of 2015. As you know Pentax use Sony sensors on their APS-C DSLR so I guess it’s highly likely Pentax will use the new 46-50MP Sony FF sensor on that camera too!

02-05-2015, 02:44 PM	#647
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	It would make sence to have 36MP, with really good ISO, fine tuning on focus points for FF(and new to become 645). To make FF new experimenting ground for 645. Followed with 86k color metering system. And possibly -4 ev. Sensitivity for focusing. Also for step for new 645 and aps-c to make domination in 3 levels...just a thought. Not making FF just for FF.

02-05-2015, 02:57 PM	#648
jimr-pdx Pentaxian Join Date: May 2010 Location: now 1 hour north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,897	Originally posted by beachgardener one that is for sure is that there will be plenty of bargains on the for sale forum over the next 12-18 months On DA lenses, I reckon so. Oh what fun!

02-05-2015, 03:23 PM	#649
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by jimr-pdx On DA lenses, I reckon so. Oh what fun! yes and sale of cameras on the upgrade path.

02-05-2015, 03:55 PM	#650
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by beachgardener Originally posted by jimr-pdx On DA lenses, I reckon so. Oh what fun! yes and sale of cameras on the upgrade path. You bet, lots of stuff at great prices ... including some of my gear soon !

02-05-2015, 04:37 PM	#651
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	I think also some FA lenses will be on the market at much higher prices than current. I imagine that the 3 amigos will go up in price, along with the FA 35mm f/2.0; all the FA * lenses (tho many of those are beyond reach of many of us already) I would also imagine that some of the premier K, and A lenses will also go up in price. I doubt that the new body can out resolve the K 135mm f/2.5, all the A* primes, a few others. NaCl(can you say feeding frenzy?)H2O

02-06-2015, 01:31 AM	#652
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by Raffwal Didn't the Pentaxeros leak (sorta "confirmed" by kenspo) say 36 Mpix? ---------- Post added 05-02-15 at 22:21 ---------- Ficha especificaciones técnicas Pentax Full Frame - Pentax Full Frame 36 Mpix What i said is "I see a spanish site that post the specs too..But i wont confirm them..Not at this moment." - Because its pure speculations atm Most logical will be 36mpx with 24mpx crop, or 24mpx with 16mpx crop. It cant be higher, because then the FF will be a direct competitor with the 645Z.

02-06-2015, 04:42 AM	#653
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by kenspo Most logical will be 36mpx with 24mpx crop, or 24mpx with 16mpx crop. It cant be higher, because then the FF will be a direct competitor with the 645Z. It can never directly compete with the 645Z, because of the difference in format. Just like 24mp APS-C and 24mp FF system won't hurt each other either.

02-06-2015, 04:57 AM - 1 Like	#654
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	Originally posted by kenspo What i said is "I see a spanish site that post the specs too..But i wont confirm them..Not at this moment." - Because its pure speculations atm Most logical will be 36mpx with 24mpx crop, or 24mpx with 16mpx crop. It cant be higher, because then the FF will be a direct competitor with the 645Z. 36 Mpix on 24x36 sensor gives a 16 Mpix APS-C crop, not 24. And 24 Mpix gives a 10,7 Mpix APS-C crop.

02-06-2015, 05:05 AM	#655
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by Mistral75 36 Mpix on 24x36 sensor gives a 16 Mpix APS-C crop, not 24. And 24 Mpix gives a 10,7 Mpix APS-C crop. Unless there's a crop factor available other than the standard 1.53. In fact, a great feature would be a selectable crop factor with the additional option of all Pentax lenses providing the camera with the minimum crop factor for that lens.

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02-06-2015, 05:24 AM	#656
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by IchabodCrane Unless there's a crop factor available other than the standard 1.53. In fact, a great feature would be a selectable crop factor with the additional option of all Pentax lenses providing the camera with the minimum crop factor for that lens. I don't understand the need for automatic in-camera cropping. Just crop in post. I hope it's an option that can be turned off.

02-06-2015, 05:32 AM	#657
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by kenspo What i said is "I see a spanish site that post the specs too..But i wont confirm them..Not at this moment." - Because its pure speculations atm Most logical will be 36mpx with 24mpx crop, or 24mpx with 16mpx crop. It cant be higher, because then the FF will be a direct competitor with the 645Z. Doesn't the D800 (36MP) crop to ~16MP?

02-06-2015, 05:36 AM	#658
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Clavius I don't understand the need for automatic in-camera cropping. Just crop in post. I hope it's an option that can be turned off. Maybe it doesn't really crop the RAW files anyway, just the JPEGs? It would be great if the camera provides a user-definable crop. I'd be tempted to set the DA35 Ltd to zero crop, because it seems it vignettes only at distance, not when used for close-ups. And I would probably set the DA70 to only a slight crop - maybe 1.2 to make it an approximate 85mm/f2.8

02-06-2015, 06:07 AM	#659
Raffwal Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The North Posts: 879	Originally posted by kenspo What i said is "I see a spanish site that post the specs too..But i wont confirm them..Not at this moment." - Because its pure speculations atm Most logical will be 36mpx with 24mpx crop, or 24mpx with 16mpx crop. It cant be higher, because then the FF will be a direct competitor with the 645Z. Yes, kenspo. Hence the expression "sorta".

02-06-2015, 06:46 AM	#660
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by Clavius I don't understand the need for automatic in-camera cropping. Just crop in post. I hope it's an option that can be turned off. I imagine it can be turned off but "just crop in post" then requires the user to post-process every image. Not much point in even having a JPEG engine in that case.