[eyeswideshut]

Let me clarify. In my experience dealing with secrets, they're limited to a known pool of people so that if they're leaked without permission there's a small pool of people to investigate. It doesn't matter if YOU protect your sources if the source can be traced backward from within. All I'm saying is that sharing a "secret" your "source" shared with you, if true, is grossly irresponsible and not something a good friend should do. Unless, of course, your source told you to leak it.

Don't worry, once something like this reaches the marketing people it 's a foregone conclusion that the beans will be spillt.

Anyway it would be so supremely Pentax - like to release a FF GR. Just think,

we wait with bated breath and out comes the K01
we wait with bated breath and out comes the Q
we wait with bated breath and out comes the KS1
we wait with bated breath and out comes FULL FORMAT 35mm goodness!

In the guise of the GR :-(

[luftfluss]

no SR in small body, just look at sony A7II, it twice bigger than it’s predecessor

The Sony A7II is about 25% larger/heavier than its predecessor, and the main reasons are a larger grip and more robust build.

[D1N0]

The Sony A7II is about 25% larger/heavier than its predecessor, and the main reasons are a larger grip and more robust build.

IBIS is the main reason i'd think

[filoxophy]

but in the interview before they said that they were considering zoom GR, so that proves that new 18-50 lens is from GR R&D...

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nothing was said in details, it’s a rumor even between employees, no one can connect me to that person

What on earth does a K mount zoom have to do with a GR zoom? ... (Other than that they are both lenses and they both zoom?) R&D-wise, I see no connection.

[i83N]

What on earth does a K mount zoom have to do with a GR zoom? ... (Other than that they are both lenses and they both zoom?) R&D-wise, I see no connection.

it’s really simple, GR uses collapsible lens, new pentax kit(?) is collapsible too..

[D1N0]

it’s really simple, GR uses collapsible lens, new pentax kit(?) is collapsible too..

The GR has a different registry distance and it doesn't need to have the dc motor in the lens. Totally different design.

[Zygonyx]

+1
No need to have MANUAL colapsing lens with compacts, even full frame.

[luftfluss]

IBIS is the main reason i'd think

At least half of the increased depth - the linear dimension in which the 2 cameras mostly differ - is due to the increased size of the grip. The thickness of the new body is influenced by both IBIS (I assume) and more rugged materials (according to Sony) used for the construction... and perhaps also the new control layout. Notice that the width of the body is identical and the height differs by only 1.3 mm

[Kharan]

Ricoh GR body + Sony 35mm sensor + collapsible Pentax 40mm 2.8 = pure win

If they could price it at USD ~1000, I think it would seriously undercut the RX1 and become a success. A lighter and cheaper FF fixed-lens cam, with a good interface and controls, is something that the market still lacks.

It would be even better if they launched it with an accessory viewfinder that included a flash with some tilt capability and an integrated white card, with a GN of 17 maybe, and a cost of 300 bucks. One can always dream

[filoxophy]

Ricoh GR body + Sony 35mm sensor + collapsible Pentax 40mm 2.8 = pure win

If they could price it at USD ~1000, I think it would seriously undercut the RX1 and become a success. A lighter and cheaper FF fixed-lens cam, with a good interface and controls, is something that the market still lacks.

It would be even better if they launched it with an accessory viewfinder that included a flash with some tilt capability and an integrated white card, with a GN of 17 maybe, and a cost of 300 bucks. One can always dream

Agreed, at least with the first two paragraphs!

If the GR is defined as 28mm-e fixed lens, then...well, it is what it is.

But I would definitely support a Sigma DP rival--a "GR" at multiple focal lengths, APS-C or FF. A zoom would be trickier...I can't get into non-manual zooms. Just MHO

Hey, the Ricoh GR line went from 135 film to 1/1.7" digital, to APS-C--it cant make another transition!

[Timko]

Ricoh GR body + Sony 35mm sensor + collapsible Pentax 40mm 2.8 = pure win

Why collapsible 40? Pentax has 40 2.8 XS

[SGOMMO7]

No, no, what we need is a collapsible 40mm F2.8 XS Lens!
I think we can all agree that a lens with a profile of 0.36 inches and a massive weight of 1.8 oz is just too cumbersome.

I for one am a firm believer that lenses should not protrude away from the camera at all but rather to see the front element of our lenses we should be looking into our cameras.

[filoxophy]

No, no, what we need is a collapsible 40mm F2.8 XS Lens!
I think we can all agree that a lens with a profile of 0.36 inches and a massive weight of 1.8 oz is just too cumbersome.

I for one am a firm believer that lenses should not protrude away from the camera at all but rather to see the front element of our lenses we should be looking into our cameras.

I mean, hey, if they can create a retractable 40mm-e f/2.8 GR, I'm all for it. How about FF 28/43/77 GRs? I know a non-28mm-e GR is not a GR at all. Okay, call it whatever you want. What I'm saying is, I want a Sigma DP competitor!

[beachgardener]

GR FF 35 or 28mm f2 or f1.4 lens, hotshoe viewfinder, nice one

[thibs]

A GR-W for WWA and GR-T for small tele would be welcome IMO. GR normal too btw.