HD PENTAX-D FA ★ 70-200mm F2.8 at 5th February?

D1N0 · 02-03-2015, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

No! Both lenses that comes tomorrow is Pro-lenses for FF.

I was talking about the FF but I guess now you have confirmed the 100-400 as well.

**WillWeaverRVA** · 02-03-2015, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

That's not an f/2.8 lens. They want f2.8... also, the 60-250 AF is said to be too slow for action shots. I haven't had one but that's been agreed on, in other threads.

It's pretty slow for a lens with SDM. I've used both it and the Sigma 70-200 and the Sigma is definitely faster (and sometimes cheaper depending on where you find it). F/4 isn't the worst for action but the f/2.8 lenses out there outperform the Pentax.

**monochrome** · 02-03-2015, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

I was talking about the FF but I guess now you have confirmed the 100-400 as well.

The High-Magnification Zoom isn't necessarily a Pro lens. There might be a Pro lens Pentax hasn't shown under glass.

Just sayin'. Not saying there is another lens - just no one knows yet.

Until tomorrow, then.

Sargeant Schultz.

panicAttack · 02-03-2015, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by Nicolas06

You liked the grease on D600 sensor ? You'll love the flare issue of D750... I think they heven interrupted the selling of the camera at some point.

I'm not too childish about what camera manufacturer I use if camera is good enough for me.

currently on Pentax, I do hope to stay on Pentax FF, but if not, doesn't matter that much, only financially that will not be such easy move.

Nikon have cheap primes and pretty much best FF bodies at this moment (810, 750 and 610). Canon probably will take the lead this year, and if Pentax make FF with comparable AF, DR and noise with current Nikon models, I will gladly stay here

cfraz · 02-03-2015, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

If not The Other, then, Who will we be?

The Formerly Known As DOOOOMED?

LFLee · 02-03-2015, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

Why hoping on something that is confirmed?

you again!

after many years of FF rumor, you will only believe when you actually see the thing.

anyway, there is a new DFA lens announced couple years ago, the DFA 100mm WR macro, so a new DFA lens announcement is not a confirmation that FF is coming.

kenspo · 02-03-2015, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by LFLee

you again!

after many years of FF rumor, you will only believe when you actually see the thing.

anyway, there is a new DFA lens announced couple years ago, the DFA 100mm WR macro, so a new DFA lens announcement is not a confirmation that FF is coming.

Hehe, yes, im still here! Although i have put my head on the block for tomorrow!

I have explained more about mere HERE.

Im relatively new to Pentax, but shouldnt a FA* lense tell you more then a DFA lense would do?

**monochrome** · 02-03-2015, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by cfraz

The Formerly Known As DOOOOMED?

Infinite resignation is the last stage before faith. Be of Good Cheer Pentaxians. We are not Doomed .

Mistral75 · 02-03-2015, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

My take:

SR will be effective for FL under 135mm (or some number) but at longer FL has some noticeable negative effect (vignetting or whatever).

(...)

Where does this come from?

You know that a 1988 Minolta AF 600mm f/4 APO G HS works perfectly with the sensor stabilisation of a Sony Alpha 900 or Alpha 99, don't you?

So why should Ricoh do worse than Sony?

---------- Post added 02-03-2015 at 10:35 PM ----------

Originally posted by LFLee

you again!

(...)

anyway, there is a new DFA lens announced couple years ago, the DFA 100mm WR macro, so a new DFA lens announcement is not a confirmation that FF is coming.

smc Pentax-D FA 100mm f/2.8 Macro WR was announced on December 9th, 2009, more than 5 years ago, not a couple years ago.

Besides, it's a mere WR revamping of smc Pentax-D FA 100mm f/2.8 Macro, which was announced on August 8th, 2004, more than 10 years ago, the design of which occurred when Pentax was working on a digital 24x36.

**monochrome** · 02-03-2015, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Where does this come from?

You know that a 1988 Minolta AF 600mm f/4 APO G HS works perfectly with the sensor stabilisation of a Sony Alpha 900 or Alpha 99, don't you?

So why should Ricoh do worse than Sony?

See outlier. Sarcasm doesn't work here.

LFLee · 02-03-2015, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

Hehe, yes, im still here! Although i have put my head on the block for tomorrow!

I have explained more about mere HERE.

Im relatively new to Pentax, but shouldnt a FA* lense tell you more then a DFA lense would do?

what? I would be surprise they label it as FA*, it's been a while FA* show up in lens line up...

anyway, well I hope you are right about this FF thing.

maybe you can 'accidentally' forget to remove the exif data when you field testing a FF and post it online...

kenspo · 02-03-2015, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by LFLee

what? I would be surprise they label it as FA*, it's been a while FA* show up in lens line up...

anyway, well I hope you are right about this FF thing.

maybe you can 'accidentally' forget to remove the exif data when you field testing a FF and post it online...

Haha...Thank you for reminding me..Will remember to remove it now

But, i dont know when i will have it my hands yet! But i KNOW its coming!

**beachgardener** · 02-03-2015, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by psychdoc

For the 24-70 range if this FF comes to fruition, doesn't Tamron and Sigma make something in this range that is FF compatible and in Pentax mount?

Yes as far as i know they do now, http://www.camerasdirect.com.au/tamron-sp-24-70mm-f-2-8-di-vc-usd-for-pentax..._store=default

Mike.P® · 02-03-2015, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by beachgardener

Yes as far as i know they do now, http://www.camerasdirect.com.au/tamron-sp-24-70mm-f-2-8-di-vc-usd-for-pentax..._store=default

Along with the Sigma 120-300mm OS f2.8 in Pentax mount? http://www.ffordes.com/product/13093011424051

Uluru · 02-03-2015, 04:17 PM

This is important lens for both FF and APS-C. In fact, it is 100-300 on crop, with a huge aperture.
However, it does not imply immediate 135 format camera being released. At least 2-3 more lenses are necessary to come with it.

02-03-2015, 01:39 PM	#78
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by D1N0 I was talking about the FF but I guess now you have confirmed the 100-400 as well. The High-Magnification Zoom isn't necessarily a Pro lens. There might be a Pro lens Pentax hasn't shown under glass. Just sayin'. Not saying there is another lens - just no one knows yet. Until tomorrow, then. Sargeant Schultz. Last edited by monochrome; 02-03-2015 at 01:50 PM.

02-03-2015, 02:30 PM	#84
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by monochrome My take: SR will be effective for FL under 135mm (or some number) but at longer FL has some noticeable negative effect (vignetting or whatever). (...) Where does this come from? You know that a 1988 Minolta AF 600mm f/4 APO G HS works perfectly with the sensor stabilisation of a Sony Alpha 900 or Alpha 99, don't you? So why should Ricoh do worse than Sony? ---------- Post added 02-03-2015 at 10:35 PM ---------- Originally posted by LFLee you again! (...) anyway, there is a new DFA lens announced couple years ago, the DFA 100mm WR macro, so a new DFA lens announcement is not a confirmation that FF is coming. smc Pentax-D FA 100mm f/2.8 Macro WR was announced on December 9th, 2009, more than 5 years ago, not a couple years ago. Besides, it's a mere WR revamping of smc Pentax-D FA 100mm f/2.8 Macro, which was announced on August 8th, 2004, more than 10 years ago, the design of which occurred when Pentax was working on a digital 24x36. Last edited by Mistral75; 02-03-2015 at 02:39 PM.

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02-03-2015, 01:32 PM	#76
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by kenspo No! Both lenses that comes tomorrow is Pro-lenses for FF. I was talking about the FF but I guess now you have confirmed the 100-400 as well.

02-03-2015, 01:39 PM	#77
WillWeaverRVA Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Richmond, VA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,071	Originally posted by ChristianRock That's not an f/2.8 lens. They want f2.8... also, the 60-250 AF is said to be too slow for action shots. I haven't had one but that's been agreed on, in other threads. It's pretty slow for a lens with SDM. I've used both it and the Sigma 70-200 and the Sigma is definitely faster (and sometimes cheaper depending on where you find it). F/4 isn't the worst for action but the f/2.8 lenses out there outperform the Pentax.

02-03-2015, 01:47 PM	#79
panicAttack Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 56	Originally posted by Nicolas06 You liked the grease on D600 sensor ? You'll love the flare issue of D750... I think they heven interrupted the selling of the camera at some point. I'm not too childish about what camera manufacturer I use if camera is good enough for me. currently on Pentax, I do hope to stay on Pentax FF, but if not, doesn't matter that much, only financially that will not be such easy move. Nikon have cheap primes and pretty much best FF bodies at this moment (810, 750 and 610). Canon probably will take the lead this year, and if Pentax make FF with comparable AF, DR and noise with current Nikon models, I will gladly stay here

02-03-2015, 02:03 PM	#80
cfraz Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 521	Originally posted by monochrome If not The Other, then, Who will we be? The Formerly Known As DOOOOMED?

02-03-2015, 02:09 PM	#81
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	Originally posted by kenspo Why hoping on something that is confirmed? you again! after many years of FF rumor, you will only believe when you actually see the thing. anyway, there is a new DFA lens announced couple years ago, the DFA 100mm WR macro, so a new DFA lens announcement is not a confirmation that FF is coming.

02-03-2015, 02:14 PM	#82
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by LFLee you again! after many years of FF rumor, you will only believe when you actually see the thing. anyway, there is a new DFA lens announced couple years ago, the DFA 100mm WR macro, so a new DFA lens announcement is not a confirmation that FF is coming. Hehe, yes, im still here! Although i have put my head on the block for tomorrow! I have explained more about mere HERE. Im relatively new to Pentax, but shouldnt a FA* lense tell you more then a DFA lense would do?

02-03-2015, 02:19 PM	#83
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by cfraz The Formerly Known As DOOOOMED? Infinite resignation is the last stage before faith. Be of Good Cheer Pentaxians. We are not Doomed .

02-03-2015, 02:48 PM	#85
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Mistral75 Where does this come from? You know that a 1988 Minolta AF 600mm f/4 APO G HS works perfectly with the sensor stabilisation of a Sony Alpha 900 or Alpha 99, don't you? So why should Ricoh do worse than Sony? See outlier. Sarcasm doesn't work here.

02-03-2015, 02:56 PM	#86
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	Originally posted by kenspo Hehe, yes, im still here! Although i have put my head on the block for tomorrow! I have explained more about mere HERE. Im relatively new to Pentax, but shouldnt a FA* lense tell you more then a DFA lense would do? what? I would be surprise they label it as FA, it's been a while FA show up in lens line up... anyway, well I hope you are right about this FF thing. maybe you can 'accidentally' forget to remove the exif data when you field testing a FF and post it online...

02-03-2015, 03:00 PM	#87
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by LFLee what? I would be surprise they label it as FA, it's been a while FA show up in lens line up... anyway, well I hope you are right about this FF thing. maybe you can 'accidentally' forget to remove the exif data when you field testing a FF and post it online... Haha...Thank you for reminding me..Will remember to remove it now But, i dont know when i will have it my hands yet! But i KNOW its coming!

02-03-2015, 03:18 PM	#88
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by psychdoc For the 24-70 range if this FF comes to fruition, doesn't Tamron and Sigma make something in this range that is FF compatible and in Pentax mount? Yes as far as i know they do now, http://www.camerasdirect.com.au/tamron-sp-24-70mm-f-2-8-di-vc-usd-for-pentax..._store=default

02-03-2015, 03:27 PM	#89
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by beachgardener Yes as far as i know they do now, http://www.camerasdirect.com.au/tamron-sp-24-70mm-f-2-8-di-vc-usd-for-pentax..._store=default Along with the Sigma 120-300mm OS f2.8 in Pentax mount? http://www.ffordes.com/product/13093011424051

02-03-2015, 04:17 PM	#90
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	This is important lens for both FF and APS-C. In fact, it is 100-300 on crop, with a huge aperture. However, it does not imply immediate 135 format camera being released. At least 2-3 more lenses are necessary to come with it.