HD PENTAX-D FA ★ 70-200mm F2.8 at 5th February?

rawr · 02-04-2015, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Its really NOT. Not in real life, which often tells the truth better then DxO.

OK, sorry

I don't want to get you angry, esp over boring old Nikon stuff.
I've personally only used the f4 once. It's sharper at most focal lengths than my 70-200 f2.8 VR1 is all I can say.

kenspo · 02-04-2015, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by rawr

OK, sorry

I don't want to get you angry, esp over boring old Nikon stuff.
I've personally only used the f4 once. It's sharper at most focal lengths than my 70-200 f2.8 VR1 is all I can say.

Hehe, i hardly ever get angry

Sharpness also depends on the conditions you are working under. I do most of my work in extreme situations. In good light, at least outdoors, you hardly see big difference in any lense.

Cynog Ap Brychan · 02-04-2015, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by rawr

Interesting. It's a similar story with the Nikon 70-200 f4 vs their 70-200 f2.8. The Nikon f4 is not only a sharper lens (according to DxO, and many users), but it's also lighter, more compact, and more than $1000 cheaper.

I bought the Nikon 70-200 f4 because it's so much lighter than the f2.8 (I used to have the excellent AF-S 80-200 mm f2.8, but I didn't like its weight, so never took it anywhere). It's plenty sharp enough for my, admittedly amateur, needs.

asahi man · 02-04-2015, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Don't worry, the D FA* 70-200mm f/2.8 will also be double the price of the DA* 60-250mm f/4.

Last year we talked about the price for Europe.
We came to the level of little more than 2000€ for the 2.8 and maybe 2500 for the big one.
I think it's fair and realistic.
Extreme wr,HD coating,great body quality,loved heavy and great image quality because of no is and newest glass :-)
But this was last year,we will see in a couple of hours what's the result.
Best regards

D1N0 · 02-04-2015, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by LFLee

Ricoh to announce the HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/2.8 and 150-450mm f/4.5-5.6 lenses | Photo Rumors

Ricoh to announce the HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/2.8 and 150-450mm f/4.5-5.6 lenses

Read more on PhotoRumors.com: Photo Rumors

the 70-200 is a DFA* ! from the original source ?HD PENTAX-D FA?70-200mm F2.8???HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm F4.5-5.6???? - ????info

Looks like HD coating is going to be called SMC and why couldn't they leak a bit larger pics so we can read what's written around the switches?

Mistral75 · 02-04-2015, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

(...) why couldn't they leak a bit larger pics so we can read what's written around the switches?

Something like that:

D1N0 · 02-04-2015, 05:20 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Something like that:

That is an opinion, not a fact

**wizofoz** · 02-04-2015, 05:36 AM

Pentax makes some very sexy looking lenses and these certainly fall into that camp. I'm not sure I have a need for either, but I'm happy that Pentax seem to be finally showing their hand and FF seems to be imminent. Let's hope these are a huge hit and worth the wait

As I said, I'm not sure I have a 'need' for them, but since when has LBA and 'need' had anything in common?

Mistral75 · 02-04-2015, 05:37 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by D1N0

That is an opinion, not a fact

Correct. For facts, a bit more than 9 hours and 20 minutes of patience are requested.

Supernaut · 02-04-2015, 05:57 AM

Any information about the in lens motor on these new lenses? Old micromotor tech or something better?

totsmuyco · 02-04-2015, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Correct. For facts, a bit more than 9 hours and 20 minutes of patience are requested.

Ahhh, another moment of waiting with agony and with excitement.

bdery · 02-04-2015, 06:44 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ChristianRock

That's not an f/2.8 lens. They want f2.8...

I did, too, before ...

I understand that in some situations it's required, but two things mitigate this:

1-f4 at 250mm has a shallower DOF than f2.8 at 200mm

2-modern ISO performances mean that it's now possible, easily, to use f4 at moments where you would have needed f2.8 a few years ago

Originally posted by ChristianRock

also, the 60-250 AF is said to be too slow for action shots. I haven't had one but that's been agreed on, in other threads.

I own one and disagree with this. But then again, I'm a believer that gear should not exist to overcome bad technique.

awaldram · 02-04-2015, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

That is an opinion, not a fact

And not the best opinion as though you cant read the switches they appear three way

So if I was hazarding an opinion woudl be more inclined they define sports modes rather than AF limits

Though the 150-450 does appear to have a zoom lock as well

JPT · 02-04-2015, 07:37 AM - **3 Likes**

Specs from the usual source.

As of specs of the next "HD PENTAX-D FA ★ 70-200mm F2.8ED DC AW"

- Dust and water structure. Sealing 13 places
- Image circle covers the 35mm format
- Nanotechnology coating of newly developed "Aero Bright coating II"
- HD coating
- Two super ED lens, two ED lens, four abnormal low dispersion lens
- Switch with quick shift focus system selector switch to "QFS / A", "QFS / M", "MF"
- "QFS / A" autofocus priority. "QFS / M" manual focus priority
- Lens within the motor (DC motor)
- Circular aperture
- 3-stage focus limiter
- Lens front to the SP coating
- New development of removable tripod mount (Captive)
- Over-the-counter expected price is 260,000 yen (including tax)

Google Translate

**WillWeaverRVA** · 02-04-2015, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by JPT

- Over-the-counter expected price is 260,000 yen (including tax)

That's over $2200, yikes!

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
For Sale - Sold: Pentax D-FA 100mm f2.8 Macro WR & DA* 200mm F2.8 ED [IF] SDM	jurysi	Sold Items	11	09-17-2012 05:27 PM
Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM vs Pentax FA* 80-200mm F2.8?	vectrln	Pentax SLR Lens Discussion	5	07-27-2011 07:41 AM
★★NOW IN STOCK★★Pentax K-5 Limited Edition★★	Chuck-B&H	Ask B&H Photo!	11	03-31-2011 05:29 AM
For Sale - Sold: Sigma APO EX 70-200mm/f2.8, Pentax FA 35mm/f2, Tamron 28-75mm/f2.8	chemxaj	Sold Items	15	06-26-2008 06:58 PM

02-04-2015, 04:38 AM	#136
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by kenspo Its really NOT. Not in real life, which often tells the truth better then DxO. OK, sorry I don't want to get you angry, esp over boring old Nikon stuff. I've personally only used the f4 once. It's sharper at most focal lengths than my 70-200 f2.8 VR1 is all I can say.

02-04-2015, 04:42 AM	#137
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by rawr OK, sorry I don't want to get you angry, esp over boring old Nikon stuff. I've personally only used the f4 once. It's sharper at most focal lengths than my 70-200 f2.8 VR1 is all I can say. Hehe, i hardly ever get angry Sharpness also depends on the conditions you are working under. I do most of my work in extreme situations. In good light, at least outdoors, you hardly see big difference in any lense.

02-04-2015, 05:00 AM	#138
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by rawr Interesting. It's a similar story with the Nikon 70-200 f4 vs their 70-200 f2.8. The Nikon f4 is not only a sharper lens (according to DxO, and many users), but it's also lighter, more compact, and more than $1000 cheaper. I bought the Nikon 70-200 f4 because it's so much lighter than the f2.8 (I used to have the excellent AF-S 80-200 mm f2.8, but I didn't like its weight, so never took it anywhere). It's plenty sharp enough for my, admittedly amateur, needs.

02-04-2015, 05:02 AM	#139
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Originally posted by Mistral75 Don't worry, the D FA* 70-200mm f/2.8 will also be double the price of the DA* 60-250mm f/4. Last year we talked about the price for Europe. We came to the level of little more than 2000€ for the 2.8 and maybe 2500 for the big one. I think it's fair and realistic. Extreme wr,HD coating,great body quality,loved heavy and great image quality because of no is and newest glass :-) But this was last year,we will see in a couple of hours what's the result. Best regards

02-04-2015, 05:10 AM	#140
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by LFLee Ricoh to announce the HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/2.8 and 150-450mm f/4.5-5.6 lenses \| Photo Rumors Ricoh to announce the HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/2.8 and 150-450mm f/4.5-5.6 lenses Read more on PhotoRumors.com: Photo Rumors *the 70-200 is a DFA !** from the original source ?HD PENTAX-D FA?70-200mm F2.8???HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm F4.5-5.6???? - ????info Looks like HD coating is going to be called SMC and why couldn't they leak a bit larger pics so we can read what's written around the switches?

02-04-2015, 05:15 AM	#141
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by D1N0 (...) why couldn't they leak a bit larger pics so we can read what's written around the switches? Something like that:

02-04-2015, 05:20 AM	#142
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by Mistral75 Something like that: That is an opinion, not a fact

02-04-2015, 05:36 AM	#143
wizofoz Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne, Outer east. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,695	Pentax makes some very sexy looking lenses and these certainly fall into that camp. I'm not sure I have a need for either, but I'm happy that Pentax seem to be finally showing their hand and FF seems to be imminent. Let's hope these are a huge hit and worth the wait As I said, I'm not sure I have a 'need' for them, but since when has LBA and 'need' had anything in common?

02-04-2015, 05:37 AM - 2 Likes	#144
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by D1N0 That is an opinion, not a fact Correct. For facts, a bit more than 9 hours and 20 minutes of patience are requested.

02-04-2015, 05:57 AM	#145
Supernaut Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Coast , Sweden Posts: 467	Any information about the in lens motor on these new lenses? Old micromotor tech or something better?

02-04-2015, 05:58 AM	#146
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by Mistral75 Correct. For facts, a bit more than 9 hours and 20 minutes of patience are requested. Ahhh, another moment of waiting with agony and with excitement.

02-04-2015, 06:44 AM - 1 Like	#147
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,362	Originally posted by ChristianRock That's not an f/2.8 lens. They want f2.8... I did, too, before ... I understand that in some situations it's required, but two things mitigate this: 1-f4 at 250mm has a shallower DOF than f2.8 at 200mm 2-modern ISO performances mean that it's now possible, easily, to use f4 at moments where you would have needed f2.8 a few years ago Originally posted by ChristianRock also, the 60-250 AF is said to be too slow for action shots. I haven't had one but that's been agreed on, in other threads. I own one and disagree with this. But then again, I'm a believer that gear should not exist to overcome bad technique.

02-04-2015, 06:59 AM	#148
awaldram Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hampshire Photos: Gallery Posts: 732	Originally posted by D1N0 That is an opinion, not a fact And not the best opinion as though you cant read the switches they appear three way So if I was hazarding an opinion woudl be more inclined they define sports modes rather than AF limits Though the 150-450 does appear to have a zoom lock as well

02-04-2015, 07:37 AM - 3 Likes	#149
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Specs from the usual source. As of specs of the next "HD PENTAX-D FA ★ 70-200mm F2.8ED DC AW" - Dust and water structure. Sealing 13 places - Image circle covers the 35mm format - Nanotechnology coating of newly developed "Aero Bright coating II" - HD coating - Two super ED lens, two ED lens, four abnormal low dispersion lens - Switch with quick shift focus system selector switch to "QFS / A", "QFS / M", "MF" - "QFS / A" autofocus priority. "QFS / M" manual focus priority - Lens within the motor (DC motor) - Circular aperture - 3-stage focus limiter - Lens front to the SP coating - New development of removable tripod mount (Captive) - Over-the-counter expected price is 260,000 yen (including tax) Google Translate

02-04-2015, 07:46 AM	#150
WillWeaverRVA Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Richmond, VA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,071	Originally posted by JPT - Over-the-counter expected price is 260,000 yen (including tax) That's over $2200, yikes!