HD PENTAX-D FA ★ 70-200mm F2.8 at 5th February?

**monochrome** · 11-12-2015, 10:32 AM

Manual focus lens users on digital cameras other than MF (including adapted MILC cameras) are clearly a niche group within the larger dSLR market (though we could be relatively important to Pentax). I think there are at least two classes of manual focus lens users; economy-minded and enthusiasts. The economy-minded subset is unlikely to buy an expensive FF camera to mount a $40 lens. OTOH, a certain group of MF enthusiasts might ADD the FF to their bags for the obvious reasons.

Of course the questions will be: just how large the enthusiast group really is; just how many traditional AF users will upgrade; and just how many new users will try the brand. My guess is the enthusiast manual focus lens group (especially those shooting non-A lenses who would appreciate an aperture sensing coupler) is - well - tiny.

Glorfindelrb · 11-12-2015, 03:50 PM

A lot of Pentax users (even not that old) have some K or M lenses and recent DA / DFA / FA lenses. I would definitely have use for an aperture coupler for my M 100 macro and my Ricoh 50 F1.4 and I'm not a manual focus enthusiast.

Speaking of the new 70-200/2.8, I tried the pre-prod model and it's really, really heavy. I'm ok to carry a DA560 for wildlife but not sure I would want to carry such a lens when shooting portraits.

JPT · 11-12-2015, 08:51 PM

Oh dear. They've just announced another delay.

news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info/2015/20151113_009888.

Something about needing more time to meet the required standards of performance.

Must be Friday 13th ...

kenspo · 11-12-2015, 11:26 PM - **1 Like**

This is the news i said would come today ^^

Franc · 11-13-2015, 12:40 AM

any incline of the reason why?

kenspo · 11-13-2015, 01:00 AM

Yes. They still need to fine-tune it to work flawless with the FF. The FF is 100% finished, so they can now test it properly with lenses. They won't release it before it works flawless with the FF. Shouldn't take more then 1-2 months anyway. It MIGHT still come before christmas, or just after.

redpit · 11-13-2015, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Yes. They still need to fine-tune it to work flawless with the FF. The FF is 100% finished, so they can now test it properly with lenses. They won't release it before it works flawless with the FF. Shouldn't take more then 1-2 months anyway. It MIGHT still come before christmas, or just after.

Kenspo although it is somewhat irrelevant with this thread do you have any clue whether Pentax plans include something like a 600mm/F4 in near future?

Nicolas06 · 11-13-2015, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by redpit

Kenspo although it is somewhat irrelevant with this thread do you have any clue whether Pentax plans include something like a 600mm/F4 in near future?

Ahah ! Maybe not the first priority for the FF line up no? Let me say I would ask first for 24,35,50, 85, 135,200, 300,400mm primes for some with different max appertures and price/size/finish (ltd...). Also a 15-30, 24-85 kit lens, 24-105 f/4, 70-300 f/3.5-5.6 in addition to the 70-200, 24-70 and 150-450.

kenspo · 11-13-2015, 01:24 AM

I know a few primes will be released in 2016..But didn't see that one on the list. But that doesn't mean that its not in their plans. Cause i dont know everything they are looking at :P

redpit · 11-13-2015, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

I know a few primes will be released in 2016..But didn't see that one on the list. But that doesn't mean that its not in their plans. Cause i dont know everything they are looking at :P

Thanks for the relpy!

@Nicolas06 I agree that there might be other more desired by more people lenses that are Ricoh priorities, but each one of us is mainly interested in lenses that fit our photographic needs and I would love a handholdable 600mm bright lens if I could afford it (and I know it will be expensive when it comes, as all pro high quality teles from other brands).

derekkite · 11-13-2015, 06:15 AM

Hmm. Looks like they are serious about making three product generation improvements in their AF implementation. That is what is needed to be a bit better than the competition.

I want one. Of each.

RonHendriks1966 · 11-14-2015, 06:42 AM

New delay until 25th februari wich is CP+ and the appearance for K-1.

http://photorumors.com/2015/11/13/hd-pentax-d-fa-70-200mm-f2-8ed-dc-aw-lens-delayed-again/

Franc · 11-14-2015, 06:48 AM

nothing new, that date was already mentioned a few months ago by B&H, look elsewhere on this forum. Just wait and see, better a very good product then a mediocre one.

goubejp · 11-14-2015, 10:23 AM

The title of the thread should be changed to "... 5th February 2016 (or 2017) ?"

**Weevil** · 12-17-2015, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by goubejp

The title of the thread should be changed to "... 5th February 2016 (or 2017) ?"

Seems to be April 2016 now...

D FA* 70-200mm F2.8 Release Date Set - Pentax Announcements | PentaxForums.com

I wonder if the "improvements" can change the MSRP?

Since I pre-ordered it, do you think that my local store can say: OK, now the price have changed, it's $$$ more now if you still want it ?

11-14-2015, 06:42 AM	#1407
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	CP+ New delay until 25th februari wich is CP+ and the appearance for K-1. http://photorumors.com/2015/11/13/hd-pentax-d-fa-70-200mm-f2-8ed-dc-aw-lens-delayed-again/

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11-12-2015, 10:32 AM	#1396
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Manual focus lens users on digital cameras other than MF (including adapted MILC cameras) are clearly a niche group within the larger dSLR market (though we could be relatively important to Pentax). I think there are at least two classes of manual focus lens users; economy-minded and enthusiasts. The economy-minded subset is unlikely to buy an expensive FF camera to mount a $40 lens. OTOH, a certain group of MF enthusiasts might ADD the FF to their bags for the obvious reasons. Of course the questions will be: just how large the enthusiast group really is; just how many traditional AF users will upgrade; and just how many new users will try the brand. My guess is the enthusiast manual focus lens group (especially those shooting non-A lenses who would appreciate an aperture sensing coupler) is - well - tiny.

11-12-2015, 03:50 PM	#1397
Glorfindelrb Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 364	A lot of Pentax users (even not that old) have some K or M lenses and recent DA / DFA / FA lenses. I would definitely have use for an aperture coupler for my M 100 macro and my Ricoh 50 F1.4 and I'm not a manual focus enthusiast. Speaking of the new 70-200/2.8, I tried the pre-prod model and it's really, really heavy. I'm ok to carry a DA560 for wildlife but not sure I would want to carry such a lens when shooting portraits.

11-12-2015, 08:51 PM	#1398
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Oh dear. They've just announced another delay. news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info/2015/20151113_009888. Something about needing more time to meet the required standards of performance. Must be Friday 13th ...

11-12-2015, 11:26 PM - 1 Like	#1399
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	This is the news i said would come today ^^

11-13-2015, 12:40 AM	#1400
Franc Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hoevelaken Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,212	any incline of the reason why?

11-13-2015, 01:00 AM	#1401
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Yes. They still need to fine-tune it to work flawless with the FF. The FF is 100% finished, so they can now test it properly with lenses. They won't release it before it works flawless with the FF. Shouldn't take more then 1-2 months anyway. It MIGHT still come before christmas, or just after.

11-13-2015, 01:16 AM	#1402
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by kenspo Yes. They still need to fine-tune it to work flawless with the FF. The FF is 100% finished, so they can now test it properly with lenses. They won't release it before it works flawless with the FF. Shouldn't take more then 1-2 months anyway. It MIGHT still come before christmas, or just after. Kenspo although it is somewhat irrelevant with this thread do you have any clue whether Pentax plans include something like a 600mm/F4 in near future?

11-13-2015, 01:24 AM	#1403
Nicolas06 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4,854	Originally posted by redpit Kenspo although it is somewhat irrelevant with this thread do you have any clue whether Pentax plans include something like a 600mm/F4 in near future? Ahah ! Maybe not the first priority for the FF line up no? Let me say I would ask first for 24,35,50, 85, 135,200, 300,400mm primes for some with different max appertures and price/size/finish (ltd...). Also a 15-30, 24-85 kit lens, 24-105 f/4, 70-300 f/3.5-5.6 in addition to the 70-200, 24-70 and 150-450.

11-13-2015, 01:24 AM	#1404
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	I know a few primes will be released in 2016..But didn't see that one on the list. But that doesn't mean that its not in their plans. Cause i dont know everything they are looking at :P

11-13-2015, 01:43 AM	#1405
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by kenspo I know a few primes will be released in 2016..But didn't see that one on the list. But that doesn't mean that its not in their plans. Cause i dont know everything they are looking at :P Thanks for the relpy! @Nicolas06 I agree that there might be other more desired by more people lenses that are Ricoh priorities, but each one of us is mainly interested in lenses that fit our photographic needs and I would love a handholdable 600mm bright lens if I could afford it (and I know it will be expensive when it comes, as all pro high quality teles from other brands).

11-13-2015, 06:15 AM	#1406
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Hmm. Looks like they are serious about making three product generation improvements in their AF implementation. That is what is needed to be a bit better than the competition. I want one. Of each.

11-14-2015, 06:48 AM	#1408
Franc Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hoevelaken Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,212	nothing new, that date was already mentioned a few months ago by B&H, look elsewhere on this forum. Just wait and see, better a very good product then a mediocre one.

11-14-2015, 10:23 AM	#1409
goubejp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: France Photos: Albums Posts: 804	The title of the thread should be changed to "... 5th February 2016 (or 2017) ?"

12-17-2015, 11:15 PM	#1410
Weevil Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Near Montréal, Québec Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,445	Originally posted by goubejp The title of the thread should be changed to "... 5th February 2016 (or 2017) ?" Seems to be April 2016 now... D FA* 70-200mm F2.8 Release Date Set - Pentax Announcements \| PentaxForums.com I wonder if the "improvements" can change the MSRP? Since I pre-ordered it, do you think that my local store can say: OK, now the price have changed, it's $$$ more now if you still want it ?