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09-02-2015, 07:54 AM   #1291
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As much as I can relate to the difficulty of letting a bargain pass, isn't there too much overlap between the 100-300/4 and the 150-450?

In other words, what are good reasons to have both lenses?
3 good reasons actually ...

1. LBA (I also still have my DA* 300mm and DA* 50-250mm)
2. It's a lot lighter than the 150-450mm so if I only need 300mm that day why carry the extra weight
3. By it's very nature, a bargain means If I were to eventually sell it on I would easily make my money back and then some.

I certainly couldn't have afforded the amount of kit I currently possess without the odd "bargain"

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QuoteOriginally posted by Mike.P Quote
3 good reasons actually ...

1. LBA (I also still have my DA* 300mm and DA* 50-250mm)
2. It's a lot lighter than the 150-450mm so if I only need 300mm that day why carry the extra weight
3. By it's very nature, a bargain means If I were to eventually sell it on I would easily make my money back and then some.

I certainly couldn't have afforded the amount of kit I currently possess without the odd "bargain"
argument 1) and 2) counter argument 3). If you keep everything anyway, it is just more money spent on it.

When you put together "bargain" and LBA when you really need a lense than cost 800$ you end up buying 2 that cost 500$ and a third one that was really a steal for 300$. In reality you have spent 1300$ when all was needed was 800$ !

You'll never resell or only to buy even more so that just grow the money spent on it in the end. I know I have a bit of this tendancy too.

I also know that I played a bit with putting money on stocks and stuff like that. Over 3-4years, on a falling market I made something like +20% after taxes. I don't think if I grow up to 5000$ on camera gear (I'am not that far after all) that after 3 years I'll get back 6000$ or after 10 years, I'll get back 8000-9000$...

This bargain thing is just a lie we serve to ourselve. If you really had a good talent for finding bargain and resell, you should make a company as a ebay reseller !

Not that it is any bad to spend lot of money on gear. We have only 1 life and if it is a priority... But I also know that I like to go on vacations or that'll like to change Car in 2-3 years, get a new TV too or add air conditionning to the flat. There also this project to go to Kenya with my father while he still can go with me... That alone is more 4000-5000$ + maybe some lense for it.

I already found "bargains" for the a nice BMW and a nice new OLED TV... Not sure it would help me to go on now... They always be more bargains but I may prefer to do the Kenya stuff in the end.

Still what gave me the most money in the end was a new job position I took recently and was has the most potential now is to renegociate my mortage for my flat.

Money is a complex stuff.




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09-03-2015, 04:09 PM   #1293
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I'm considering getting the 150-450.......my only question if someone can help is based on its size/weight. I like to walk/wander for 2 or 3 hours through the Australian bush..... will this lens (with K3) hang on a Black Rapid single strap ok? I use this approach for my sigma 70-200/2.8 ok. (heaviest lens I have)
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It's not that far from my sigma 120-400 in size and weight and I'm comfortable with it and a peak design slide. A black rapid is the same but it could rotate, but not more than any lens.
Try to rent it for a day or two then decide.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Glorfindelrb Quote
It's not that far from my sigma 120-400 in size and weight and I'm comfortable with it and a peak design slide. A black rapid is the same but it could rotate, but not more than any lens.
Try to rent it for a day or two then decide.
Thanks for the info...... no renting in my part of the woods...... have been playing with a 3kg dumbbell though! Not as bad as I thought..... I just weighed my sigma and it's almost 1.6kg anyway.....I walk the dogs with that over my shoulder.

(Now I only have to get over my guilt towards my F*300/4.5)
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QuoteOriginally posted by noelpolar Quote
will this lens (with K3) hang on a Black Rapid single strap ok?
Search 'Repin Volga boatmen' if you want an image relevant to carrying the 150-450 around on a strap.
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QuoteOriginally posted by noelpolar Quote
I'm considering getting the 150-450.......my only question if someone can help is based on its size/weight. I like to walk/wander for 2 or 3 hours through the Australian bush..... will this lens (with K3) hang on a Black Rapid single strap ok? I use this approach for my sigma 70-200/2.8 ok. (heaviest lens I have)
I have done it twice (2 days). K-3 with battery grip, DFA150-450 and a BlackRapid single strap. It works, but I tend to have my right hand in the tripod foot to ease the load to my shoulder while carrying.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nicolas06 Quote

This bargain thing is just a lie we serve to ourselve. If you really had a good talent for finding bargain and resell, you should make a company as a ebay reseller
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Actually I did just that for quite a few years and made more doing it than my regular job.

But anyway, you will notice that the first thing on the list was LBA ...

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QuoteOriginally posted by noelpolar Quote
I'm considering getting the 150-450.......my only question if someone can help is based on its size/weight. I like to walk/wander for 2 or 3 hours through the Australian bush..... will this lens (with K3) hang on a Black Rapid single strap ok? I use this approach for my sigma 70-200/2.8 ok. (heaviest lens I have)
It works. I've walked a few times with the K-3 + DFA150-450 + monopod on a BlackRapid Sport. When the terrain is relatively flat there's no problem. Climbing or descending steep trails, the combo start swinging a bit much to my liking though. I did the test because I'm thinking of taking this setup walking for a few days on a wilderness trail in Kruger NP, SA in a few months. For the trail I'm looking at it shoud be OK.

hth, Wim
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Otherwise, with no fixation, you'd better have strong arms, as more than 3kg in the left arm (when shooting or walking) can be quite a bit challenging when it lasts for hours.
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QuoteOriginally posted by noelpolar Quote
I'm considering getting the 150-450.......my only question if someone can help is based on its size/weight. I like to walk/wander for 2 or 3 hours through the Australian bush..... will this lens (with K3) hang on a Black Rapid single strap ok? I use this approach for my sigma 70-200/2.8 ok. (heaviest lens I have)
A lot depends on your age, physical condition and terrain involved. If any of these are factors, you might want to consider something like this.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Tom S. Quote
A lot depends on your age, physical condition and terrain involved. If any of these are factors, you might want to consider something like this.
A real lens needs this:

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QuoteOriginally posted by Nicolas06 Quote
Money is a complex stuff.
But its only money.
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Otherwise, with no fixation, you'd better have strong arms, as more than 3kg in the left arm (when shooting or walking) can be quite a bit challenging when it lasts for hours.
Have to agree..it get better but still a heavy bugger to hold up a for BIF for long periods,lens blur/movement can be annoying when the perfect shot is ruined due to muscle fatigue
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ishpuini Quote
It works. I've walked a few times with the K-3 + DFA150-450 + monopod on a BlackRapid Sport. When the terrain is relatively flat there's no problem. Climbing or descending steep trails, the combo start swinging a bit much to my liking though. I did the test because I'm thinking of taking this setup walking for a few days on a wilderness trail in Kruger NP, SA in a few months. For the trail I'm looking at it shoud be OK.

hth, Wim
That is why I acquired a shoulder harness ... helps a great lot when carrying all that weight around one's neck or trying to cope with heavy dangling gear all over the place with a Black Rapid "tether" thing, or similar.

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