HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm F4.5-5.6ED DC AW

uem · 02-12-2015, 06:15 AM

Is it just me, while being very happy, that PENTAX produced this new Tele Zoom lens after all, I’m somewhat disappointed ?
Why ? I was hoping to get this new toy closer to the spec as indicated in the former rumours, meaning 120 – 380 mm, but specifically lighter - and optically superior of course !! - than the Bigma (50-500), which I already have.
My “ideal” zoom would be similar to the CaNikon version of 80/100 to 400 mm, with only 1.5 kg and not 2.5 kg. The Bigma is already (too) heavy (at 1.8 kg) for being always with me, hence the new zoom would be even more a burden to carry and use ?!?
I would have replaced the Bigma under those circumstances, but as the new zoom is heavier, and also some 4 cm longer, I might just stick with the Bigma.
Regards
Urs

thibs · 02-12-2015, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by uem

Is it just me, while being very happy, that PENTAX produced this new Tele Zoom lens after all, I’m somewhat disappointed ?
Why ? I was hoping to get this new toy closer to the spec as indicated in the former rumours, meaning 120 – 380 mm, but specifically lighter - and optically superior of course !! - than the Bigma (50-500), which I already have.
My “ideal” zoom would be similar to the CaNikon version of 80/100 to 400 mm, with only 1.5 kg and not 2.5 kg. The Bigma is already (too) heavy (at 1.8 kg) for being always with me, hence the new zoom would be even more a burden to carry and use ?!?
I would have replaced the Bigma under those circumstances, but as the new zoom is heavier, and also some 4 cm longer, I might just stick with the Bigma.
Regards
Urs

But it may trash the Sigma IQ and Pentax exercise here is to appeal to Pros, IMO, without conceding much if at all.
Normal people (dunno about you I'm certainly very far from being Pro) like me will get something more affordable, later.

---------- Post added 12-02-15 at 14:25 ----------

Originally posted by Stoogie

60-250 is a crop lens

It is an "almost full frame crop lens".

PENFRED · 02-12-2015, 06:00 PM

Considering the size, weight, and price of the 150-450 F4.5-5.6, I'm now toying with the idea of just adding a second 1.4 TC to my DA*200 F2.8 to give me a 400 F5.6. Image quality with one TC is excellent with this prime; wonder what adding a second would do, and how auto focus would be?

Sure would be a lighter weight and cheaper alternative.

**jatrax** · 02-12-2015, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by PENFRED

Considering the size, weight, and price of the 150-450 F4.5-5.6, I'm now toying with the idea of just adding a second 1.4 TC to my DA*200 F2.8 to give me a 400 F5.6. Image quality with one TC is excellent with this prime; wonder what adding a second would do, and how auto focus would be?

Sure would be a lighter weight and cheaper alternative.

Might be better to just buy a DA*300 and use one TC. Would be interesting to see the difference though.

**Nakedgun** · 02-12-2015, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by PENFRED

Considering the size, weight, and price of the 150-450 F4.5-5.6, I'm now toying with the idea of just adding a second 1.4 TC to my DA*200 F2.8 to give me a 400 F5.6. Image quality with one TC is excellent with this prime; wonder what adding a second would do, and how auto focus would be?

Sure would be a lighter weight and cheaper alternative.

Without zooming convenience, however.

**Clinton** · 02-13-2015, 07:29 AM

No weather sealing?

**filoxophy** · 02-13-2015, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by Clinton

No weather sealing?

On the 150-450? It's got All Weather sealing, the same as Star and digital 645 lenses. Or maybe I misunderstand what you're asking...

**Clinton** · 02-13-2015, 07:36 AM

The spec list didn't say weather sealing, or did I miss it?

repaap · 02-13-2015, 07:37 AM

It is there. Not WR, but AW, which is even better than WR.

Ishpuini · 02-13-2015, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by Clinton

The spec list didn't say weather sealing, or did I miss it?

Here's the official image showing the seals on the DFA150-450:

hth, Wim

**Belnan** · 02-13-2015, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

Here's the official image showing the seals on the DFA150-450:

hth, Wim

Where?

thibs · 02-13-2015, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Belnan

Where?

Well, I see the picture clearly here, with red o-rings etc.

Blue · 02-13-2015, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Clinton

The spec list didn't say weather sealing, or did I miss it?

They put AW in the name which is also used in the 645 lenses for weather sealing.

Edit: From Pentax USA

Quote:

The HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm F4.5-5.6ED DC AW covers focal lengths from 150mm to 450mm — a focal-length range demanded by higher end PENTAX-camera users. Also incorporated are three ED (Extra-low Dispersion) glass elements and a super-low dispersion glass element to effectively compensate chromatic aberration. The highly desirable weather-resistance body protects the inside of the body from both dust and moisture, making it an extremely dependable and durable DSLR accessory in demanding outdoor conditions.

http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/about/press/347/Ricoh_Imaging_Broadens_Lens_...e_Photography.

Blue · 02-13-2015, 12:02 PM

It appears the 70-200 lens will get the * designation and the 150-450 will not.

thibs · 02-13-2015, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Blue

It appears the 70-200 lens will get the * designation and the 150-450 will not.

Indeed. Variable aperture I guess.

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02-12-2015, 06:15 AM	#121
uem New Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Horgen, Sitzerland Posts: 9	Is it just me, while being very happy, that PENTAX produced this new Tele Zoom lens after all, I’m somewhat disappointed ? Why ? I was hoping to get this new toy closer to the spec as indicated in the former rumours, meaning 120 – 380 mm, but specifically lighter - and optically superior of course !! - than the Bigma (50-500), which I already have. My “ideal” zoom would be similar to the CaNikon version of 80/100 to 400 mm, with only 1.5 kg and not 2.5 kg. The Bigma is already (too) heavy (at 1.8 kg) for being always with me, hence the new zoom would be even more a burden to carry and use ?!? I would have replaced the Bigma under those circumstances, but as the new zoom is heavier, and also some 4 cm longer, I might just stick with the Bigma. Regards Urs

02-12-2015, 06:24 AM	#122
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by uem Is it just me, while being very happy, that PENTAX produced this new Tele Zoom lens after all, I’m somewhat disappointed ? Why ? I was hoping to get this new toy closer to the spec as indicated in the former rumours, meaning 120 – 380 mm, but specifically lighter - and optically superior of course !! - than the Bigma (50-500), which I already have. My “ideal” zoom would be similar to the CaNikon version of 80/100 to 400 mm, with only 1.5 kg and not 2.5 kg. The Bigma is already (too) heavy (at 1.8 kg) for being always with me, hence the new zoom would be even more a burden to carry and use ?!? I would have replaced the Bigma under those circumstances, but as the new zoom is heavier, and also some 4 cm longer, I might just stick with the Bigma. Regards Urs But it may trash the Sigma IQ and Pentax exercise here is to appeal to Pros, IMO, without conceding much if at all. Normal people (dunno about you I'm certainly very far from being Pro) like me will get something more affordable, later. ---------- Post added 12-02-15 at 14:25 ---------- Originally posted by Stoogie 60-250 is a crop lens It is an "almost full frame crop lens".

02-12-2015, 06:00 PM	#123
PENFRED Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: DENVER Posts: 84	Considering the size, weight, and price of the 150-450 F4.5-5.6, I'm now toying with the idea of just adding a second 1.4 TC to my DA*200 F2.8 to give me a 400 F5.6. Image quality with one TC is excellent with this prime; wonder what adding a second would do, and how auto focus would be? Sure would be a lighter weight and cheaper alternative.

02-12-2015, 06:19 PM	#124
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by PENFRED Considering the size, weight, and price of the 150-450 F4.5-5.6, I'm now toying with the idea of just adding a second 1.4 TC to my DA200 F2.8 to give me a 400 F5.6. Image quality with one TC is excellent with this prime; wonder what adding a second would do, and how auto focus would be? Sure would be a lighter weight and cheaper alternative. Might be better to just buy a DA300 and use one TC. Would be interesting to see the difference though.

02-12-2015, 08:37 PM	#125
Nakedgun Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Southwest Posts: 1,365	Originally posted by PENFRED Considering the size, weight, and price of the 150-450 F4.5-5.6, I'm now toying with the idea of just adding a second 1.4 TC to my DA*200 F2.8 to give me a 400 F5.6. Image quality with one TC is excellent with this prime; wonder what adding a second would do, and how auto focus would be? Sure would be a lighter weight and cheaper alternative. Without zooming convenience, however.

02-13-2015, 07:29 AM	#126
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	No weather sealing?

02-13-2015, 07:34 AM	#127
filoxophy Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,132	Originally posted by Clinton No weather sealing? On the 150-450? It's got All Weather sealing, the same as Star and digital 645 lenses. Or maybe I misunderstand what you're asking...

02-13-2015, 07:36 AM	#128
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	The spec list didn't say weather sealing, or did I miss it?

02-13-2015, 07:37 AM	#129
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	It is there. Not WR, but AW, which is even better than WR.

02-13-2015, 09:21 AM	#130
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by Clinton The spec list didn't say weather sealing, or did I miss it? Here's the official image showing the seals on the DFA150-450: hth, Wim

02-13-2015, 10:43 AM	#131
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by Ishpuini Here's the official image showing the seals on the DFA150-450: hth, Wim Where?

02-13-2015, 11:48 AM	#132
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Belnan Where? Well, I see the picture clearly here, with red o-rings etc.

02-13-2015, 11:53 AM	#133
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Clinton The spec list didn't say weather sealing, or did I miss it? They put AW in the name which is also used in the 645 lenses for weather sealing. Edit: From Pentax USA Quote: The HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm F4.5-5.6ED DC AW covers focal lengths from 150mm to 450mm — a focal-length range demanded by higher end PENTAX-camera users. Also incorporated are three ED (Extra-low Dispersion) glass elements and a super-low dispersion glass element to effectively compensate chromatic aberration. The highly desirable weather-resistance body protects the inside of the body from both dust and moisture, making it an extremely dependable and durable DSLR accessory in demanding outdoor conditions. http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/about/press/347/Ricoh_Imaging_Broadens_Lens_...e_Photography.

02-13-2015, 12:02 PM	#134
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	It appears the 70-200 lens will get the * designation and the 150-450 will not.

02-13-2015, 12:18 PM	#135
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Blue It appears the 70-200 lens will get the * designation and the 150-450 will not. Indeed. Variable aperture I guess.