HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm F4.5-5.6ED DC AW

jaad75 · 04-24-2015, 01:55 PM

If they would use Sony's the most advanced IMX271 with 19 fps readout, the shortest capture time could be around 1/5 s...

Franc · 04-28-2015, 10:56 AM

does anyone knows when it hits the stores in europa?

**vcollerp** · 04-28-2015, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Franc

does anyone knows when it hits the stores in europa?

Just spoke to our importer he said mine should arrive next week from Europe, so it should be in stores there next week.

Hope he is correct.

Zygonyx · 04-28-2015, 12:09 PM

Sounds good !

Franc · 04-28-2015, 10:27 PM

hopefully!

asahi man · 04-29-2015, 02:20 AM

Yes,it is in start progress now 👍
Next week starts the first step.
May was the earliest possibility,I told you may till June is the start,not earlier.
Than is the step number 2 in 4 weeks.
Best regards

Franc · 04-29-2015, 03:38 AM

emailed my dealer, he gets his orders in 3 weeks time.

asahi man · 04-29-2015, 04:52 AM

Than he is in the second step.

Zygonyx · 04-29-2015, 12:01 PM

Indeed for the first batch, that should ship by next week or so.

cali92rs · 04-29-2015, 01:18 PM

Comparing the specs for the Canon 100-400mm mk2 compared to the Pentax 150-450mm
Min Focus Distance: 3.2' (Canon) - 6.6' (Pentax)
Weight: 3.5 lb (Canon) - 4.4 lb (Pentax)
Filter Thread : 77mm (Canon) - 86mm! (Pentax)
Price: $2,199 (Canon) - $2,497 (Pentax)
Plus the Canon has in-lens IS, which people are getting 4 stops, no problem. In body SR is not as effective for a long lens.

I do not see the $300 value in the Pentax over the Canon.

Zygonyx · 04-29-2015, 01:24 PM - **1 Like**

You are right, and there is no difference btw 100 /150 and 400/450mm same apertures either.
Any more bulsh... sir ?

cali92rs · 04-29-2015, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

You are right, and there is no difference btw 100 /150 and 400/450mm same apertures either.
Any more bulsh... sir ?

Yes, one is a 4X zoom and one is a 3X zoom.
One is wider, one is longer...
And your point?

**monochrome** · 04-29-2015, 01:32 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by cali92rs

I do not see the $300 value in the Pentax over the Canon.

One of them has a K-mount.

cali92rs · 04-29-2015, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

One of them has a K-mount.

So there is no incentive in trying to lure consumers from other camera mounts?

In other threads, you mention that Pentax probably shouldn't compete directly with Canikon...which I agree with BTW.
But this lens covers a very similar range as the one available from Canon, has worse specs, and costs more. It is a lose lose.
If you are going to release lenses that are similar in range and aperture to Canikon, ie this lens and the 70-200mm, then it is very natural for consumers to make these comparisons.

Nicolas06 · 04-29-2015, 01:42 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by cali92rs

Yes, one is a 4X zoom and one is a 3X zoom.
One is wider, one is longer...
And your point?

The biggest issue for me through is not the 300$ difference but that the Pentax doesn't provide optical IS. For 70-200 it was acceptable for 150-450, optical stab is more comfortable to use than in body stabilization.

The point I think is clear,the Canon is cheaper and also with IS. The pentax must provide something signifcantly better in picture quality for example or it might be better solution overall to just buy a Canon APSC + the 100-400 mark I and still have lighter/smaller kit with very likely better AF.

04-29-2015, 01:36 PM	#539
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by monochrome One of them has a K-mount. So there is no incentive in trying to lure consumers from other camera mounts? In other threads, you mention that Pentax probably shouldn't compete directly with Canikon...which I agree with BTW. But this lens covers a very similar range as the one available from Canon, has worse specs, and costs more. It is a lose lose. If you are going to release lenses that are similar in range and aperture to Canikon, ie this lens and the 70-200mm, then it is very natural for consumers to make these comparisons. Last edited by cali92rs; 04-29-2015 at 01:45 PM.

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04-24-2015, 01:55 PM	#526
jaad75 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cracow Posts: 457	If they would use Sony's the most advanced IMX271 with 19 fps readout, the shortest capture time could be around 1/5 s...

04-28-2015, 10:56 AM	#527
Franc Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hoevelaken Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,212	does anyone knows when it hits the stores in europa?

04-28-2015, 11:39 AM	#528
vcollerp Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vereeniging South Africa Posts: 208	Originally posted by Franc does anyone knows when it hits the stores in europa? Just spoke to our importer he said mine should arrive next week from Europe, so it should be in stores there next week. Hope he is correct.

04-28-2015, 12:09 PM	#529
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Sounds good !

04-28-2015, 10:27 PM	#530
Franc Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hoevelaken Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,212	hopefully!

04-29-2015, 02:20 AM	#531
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Yes,it is in start progress now 👍 Next week starts the first step. May was the earliest possibility,I told you may till June is the start,not earlier. Than is the step number 2 in 4 weeks. Best regards

04-29-2015, 03:38 AM	#532
Franc Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hoevelaken Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,212	emailed my dealer, he gets his orders in 3 weeks time.

04-29-2015, 04:52 AM	#533
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Than he is in the second step.

04-29-2015, 12:01 PM	#534
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Indeed for the first batch, that should ship by next week or so.

04-29-2015, 01:18 PM	#535
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Comparing the specs for the Canon 100-400mm mk2 compared to the Pentax 150-450mm Min Focus Distance: 3.2' (Canon) - 6.6' (Pentax) Weight: 3.5 lb (Canon) - 4.4 lb (Pentax) Filter Thread : 77mm (Canon) - 86mm! (Pentax) Price: $2,199 (Canon) - $2,497 (Pentax) Plus the Canon has in-lens IS, which people are getting 4 stops, no problem. In body SR is not as effective for a long lens. I do not see the $300 value in the Pentax over the Canon.

04-29-2015, 01:24 PM - 1 Like	#536
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	You are right, and there is no difference btw 100 /150 and 400/450mm same apertures either. Any more bulsh... sir ?

04-29-2015, 01:29 PM	#537
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by Zygonyx You are right, and there is no difference btw 100 /150 and 400/450mm same apertures either. Any more bulsh... sir ? Yes, one is a 4X zoom and one is a 3X zoom. One is wider, one is longer... And your point?

04-29-2015, 01:32 PM - 2 Likes	#538
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by cali92rs I do not see the $300 value in the Pentax over the Canon. One of them has a K-mount.

04-29-2015, 01:42 PM - 1 Like	#540
Nicolas06 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4,854	Originally posted by cali92rs Yes, one is a 4X zoom and one is a 3X zoom. One is wider, one is longer... And your point? The biggest issue for me through is not the 300$ difference but that the Pentax doesn't provide optical IS. For 70-200 it was acceptable for 150-450, optical stab is more comfortable to use than in body stabilization. The point I think is clear,the Canon is cheaper and also with IS. The pentax must provide something signifcantly better in picture quality for example or it might be better solution overall to just buy a Canon APSC + the 100-400 mark I and still have lighter/smaller kit with very likely better AF.