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Mike.P® · 02-08-2015, 02:59 AM

Originally posted by Adam

We don't censor content or delete negative feedback, but you can certainly add annoying users to your ignore list or use our ignore thread feature so that entire threads won't show up in your searches.

If he added everyone that wasn't a fan of the K-S1 to his ignore list it would be a pretty lonely place I think

The K-S2 on the other hand is looking very good ....

Not a Number · 02-08-2015, 03:38 AM - **3 Likes**

K-S1 NFMsNFA abounds

**savoche** · 02-08-2015, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by Not a Number

K-S1 NFMsNFA abounds

Very true.

It's definitely not for me, though

Zygonyx · 02-08-2015, 04:27 AM

I'm affraid some people here have a tendency to over-evaluate themselves à bit... let appart their aparent disguise for "beginners"...
In m'y case the K-S1 is just my "always with me" body, i can carry it much more frequently than my K-3 for example...

**savoche** · 02-08-2015, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

I'm affraid some people here have a tendency to over-evaluate themselves à bit... let appart their aparent disguise for "beginners"...
In m'y case the K-S1 is just my "always with me" body, i can carry it much more frequently than my K-3 for example...

I'm sure you're right. But the reason I say the K-S1 is not for me has nothing to do with "for beginners" or any such nonsense. It's simply that I want two control wheels at my finger tips, a display on top of the camera, and WR.

I think the K-3 might have been an even better camera with the sensor from the K-S1, btw.

thibs · 02-08-2015, 07:04 AM

I'll agree about the two wheels.
Small and fkat as the KS1 is no problem but one wheel is a PITA to me.

**THoog** · 02-08-2015, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

This new camera is giving me early adopter's remorse, but I'll get it over it.

Well, look at it this way: if you decide to side-grade to the K-S2, you will already know what the sensor can do and what PP you want/need for it (if it's the same 20MP, and I think it is). I'm anticipating some grousing about ISO noise and having to modify workflow because it's (horrors!) different from the Sweet16.

Originally posted by Zygonyx

In m'y case the K-S1 is just my "always with me" body, i can carry it much more frequently than my K-3 for example...

Yep, fits in my little camera bag, fits in my workbag - just easier to have with me all the time or as a backup body. My first question when it was leaked was not "can the LEDs be turned off?", but "what are the dimensions?". To me, the K-S1 is the DA Limited body - very small with excellent IQ, even at the cost of some other parameters, like WR and handling. (Yes, handling - those narrow ridged focus rings are not as easy to use as a nice wide rubber-coated focus ring.)

While the 'S2 looks like another capable Pentax shootin' machine, for me a tilty/flippy screen, WiFi, and multi/interval mode won't be worth the extra size and weight. Not For Me, so Maybe For Not-Me. (NFMsMFNM) Woot for Not-Me!

AtitG · 02-08-2015, 07:26 AM

Actually with the release of the FF body and the new tiny kit lens, the K-s1 is looking more attractive. As a 2nd body for the wife maybe. Looks pretty cool with the limiteds too. It just looks disproportional with the old kit lens.

**THoog** · 02-08-2015, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by AtitG

Actually with the release of the FF body and the new tiny kit lens, the K-s1 is looking more attractive. As a 2nd body for the wife maybe. Looks pretty cool with the limiteds too. It just looks disproportional with the old kit lens.

I thought so, too, looking at pictures, but when I tried it in person, it didn't look so bad, and balanced quite nicely. Still interested in the 'collapsible' 18-50 as a compact walkaround lens.

That's it from me today - gotta go "play pictures" (Thanks to SeveralSnakes for that expression!).

simon_199 · 02-08-2015, 08:10 AM

I never tried it in person, from the pictures i can tell the grip is small but it can't be much worse than that on some traditional film cameras, and the added compactness and reduced weight can be a plus. I strongly considered buying a K-S1 when i saw it on sale for 380€ (body only) new on a famous retailed in my country. At that price i was willing to accept all the "mechanical" compromises. IQ wise according to the reviews it's a very competent camera. But in the end, since CP+ is soon to come, i decided to wait for the new releases and see how they affect the prices.

That was a special offer and has ended...at its current pricing, north of 550€ with kit lens in my country, i think the K-S1 is too expensive by Pentax standards. When the market prices stabilize you usually can get the current "upper entry level" model with WR, double wheels and all that for that price...

This K-S2 will probably push the prices of the K-S1 down where they belong, even if initially i can expect it to be priced higher than current K-S1 pricing

**pbancr** · 02-08-2015, 09:25 AM

I bought a k-s1 as a carry everywhere small hi-quality camera and am pleased with it. Fits nicely in a small camera bag and its perfect with the small DA limiteds. No regrets here. Count me as #7!

**monochrome** · 02-08-2015, 09:30 AM - **1 Like**

This is all reminiscent of the K-01 without some of the rancor. You either have it and love or you don't have it and hate it.

There doesn't seem to be any gray.

thibs · 02-08-2015, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

This is all reminiscent of the K-01 without some of the rancor. You either have it and love or you don't have it and hate it.

There doesn't seem to be any gray.

There is though. I don't have a K-01 and I never got why people hated it.
It certainly has not the size advantage most people think mirrorless is all about but has other things for itself.
It isn't my cup of tea but so what? I don't have to peee on it for that reason.

**Canada_Rockies** · 02-08-2015, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by timcatn

Lutefisk is GREAT!

Done right it is one of my favourites

BARF! Bland fish turned into LYE flavoured junk. Yeccch! (my opinion when I first tasted it).

timcatn · 02-08-2015, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Canada_Rockies

BARF! Bland fish turned into LYE flavoured junk. Yeccch! (my opinion when I first tasted it).

Sounds like when it is done wrong. Hope you didn't try it at a restaurant. That is mostly a terrifying experience.

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02-08-2015, 02:59 AM	#376
Mike.P® Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Coast .. UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,905	Originally posted by Adam We don't censor content or delete negative feedback, but you can certainly add annoying users to your ignore list or use our ignore thread feature so that entire threads won't show up in your searches. If he added everyone that wasn't a fan of the K-S1 to his ignore list it would be a pretty lonely place I think The K-S2 on the other hand is looking very good ....

02-08-2015, 03:38 AM - 3 Likes	#377
Not a Number Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 5,194	K-S1 NFMsNFA abounds

02-08-2015, 04:06 AM	#378
savoche Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 11,483	Originally posted by Not a Number K-S1 NFMsNFA abounds Very true. It's definitely not for me, though

02-08-2015, 04:27 AM	#379
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 3,247	I'm affraid some people here have a tendency to over-evaluate themselves à bit... let appart their aparent disguise for "beginners"... In m'y case the K-S1 is just my "always with me" body, i can carry it much more frequently than my K-3 for example...

02-08-2015, 06:46 AM	#380
savoche Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 11,483	Originally posted by Zygonyx I'm affraid some people here have a tendency to over-evaluate themselves à bit... let appart their aparent disguise for "beginners"... In m'y case the K-S1 is just my "always with me" body, i can carry it much more frequently than my K-3 for example... I'm sure you're right. But the reason I say the K-S1 is not for me has nothing to do with "for beginners" or any such nonsense. It's simply that I want two control wheels at my finger tips, a display on top of the camera, and WR. I think the K-3 might have been an even better camera with the sensor from the K-S1, btw.

02-08-2015, 07:04 AM	#381
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 5,564	I'll agree about the two wheels. Small and fkat as the KS1 is no problem but one wheel is a PITA to me.

02-08-2015, 07:09 AM	#382
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,555	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock This new camera is giving me early adopter's remorse, but I'll get it over it. Well, look at it this way: if you decide to side-grade to the K-S2, you will already know what the sensor can do and what PP you want/need for it (if it's the same 20MP, and I think it is). I'm anticipating some grousing about ISO noise and having to modify workflow because it's (horrors!) different from the Sweet16. Originally posted by Zygonyx In m'y case the K-S1 is just my "always with me" body, i can carry it much more frequently than my K-3 for example... Yep, fits in my little camera bag, fits in my workbag - just easier to have with me all the time or as a backup body. My first question when it was leaked was not "can the LEDs be turned off?", but "what are the dimensions?". To me, the K-S1 is the DA Limited body - very small with excellent IQ, even at the cost of some other parameters, like WR and handling. (Yes, handling - those narrow ridged focus rings are not as easy to use as a nice wide rubber-coated focus ring.) While the 'S2 looks like another capable Pentax shootin' machine, for me a tilty/flippy screen, WiFi, and multi/interval mode won't be worth the extra size and weight. Not For Me, so Maybe For Not-Me. (NFMsMFNM) Woot for Not-Me!

02-08-2015, 07:26 AM	#383
AtitG Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 270	Actually with the release of the FF body and the new tiny kit lens, the K-s1 is looking more attractive. As a 2nd body for the wife maybe. Looks pretty cool with the limiteds too. It just looks disproportional with the old kit lens.

02-08-2015, 07:49 AM	#384
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,555	Originally posted by AtitG Actually with the release of the FF body and the new tiny kit lens, the K-s1 is looking more attractive. As a 2nd body for the wife maybe. Looks pretty cool with the limiteds too. It just looks disproportional with the old kit lens. I thought so, too, looking at pictures, but when I tried it in person, it didn't look so bad, and balanced quite nicely. Still interested in the 'collapsible' 18-50 as a compact walkaround lens. That's it from me today - gotta go "play pictures" (Thanks to SeveralSnakes for that expression!).

02-08-2015, 08:10 AM	#385
simon_199 Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 366	I never tried it in person, from the pictures i can tell the grip is small but it can't be much worse than that on some traditional film cameras, and the added compactness and reduced weight can be a plus. I strongly considered buying a K-S1 when i saw it on sale for 380€ (body only) new on a famous retailed in my country. At that price i was willing to accept all the "mechanical" compromises. IQ wise according to the reviews it's a very competent camera. But in the end, since CP+ is soon to come, i decided to wait for the new releases and see how they affect the prices. That was a special offer and has ended...at its current pricing, north of 550€ with kit lens in my country, i think the K-S1 is too expensive by Pentax standards. When the market prices stabilize you usually can get the current "upper entry level" model with WR, double wheels and all that for that price... This K-S2 will probably push the prices of the K-S1 down where they belong, even if initially i can expect it to be priced higher than current K-S1 pricing

02-08-2015, 09:25 AM	#386
pbancr Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Essex, Connecticut Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,130	I bought a k-s1 as a carry everywhere small hi-quality camera and am pleased with it. Fits nicely in a small camera bag and its perfect with the small DA limiteds. No regrets here. Count me as #7!

02-08-2015, 09:30 AM - 1 Like	#387
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kirkwood (St. Louis) MO USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 22,753	This is all reminiscent of the K-01 without some of the rancor. You either have it and love or you don't have it and hate it. There doesn't seem to be any gray.

02-08-2015, 09:33 AM	#388
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 5,564	Originally posted by monochrome This is all reminiscent of the K-01 without some of the rancor. You either have it and love or you don't have it and hate it. There doesn't seem to be any gray. There is though. I don't have a K-01 and I never got why people hated it. It certainly has not the size advantage most people think mirrorless is all about but has other things for itself. It isn't my cup of tea but so what? I don't have to peee on it for that reason.

02-08-2015, 10:44 AM	#389
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,409	Originally posted by timcatn Lutefisk is GREAT! Done right it is one of my favourites BARF! Bland fish turned into LYE flavoured junk. Yeccch! (my opinion when I first tasted it).

02-08-2015, 10:51 AM	#390
timcatn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Trondheim Posts: 238	Originally posted by Canada_Rockies BARF! Bland fish turned into LYE flavoured junk. Yeccch! (my opinion when I first tasted it). Sounds like when it is done wrong. Hope you didn't try it at a restaurant. That is mostly a terrifying experience.

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