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02-11-2015, 05:49 AM - 1 Like   #586
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
The proprietary li109 brick is 2.4 oz. 4 Eneloop AAs 4.2 oz + 1.2 oz for the holder so 5.4.. just a meager 3 oz more.

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One person's meager 3 oz more is another person's 2.25 times as heavy (Li109 vs 4AA+holder).

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The proprietary li109 brick is 2.4 oz. 4 Eneloop AAs 4.2 oz + 1.2 oz for the holder so 5.4.. just a meager 3 oz more.

I checked the K-r manual and it is actually rated for longer recording AND playback time using Nimh AA batteries over the brick. Brick takes more shots though. Both have their pluses and their minuses.

K-5 never took AA batteries outside of the grip. Hope they keep offering that ability in the DBG6 (or whatever the next battery grip is labeled).

In camera charging of the brick would be nice if the same cable would also function for downloading images too simultaneously.
That is more than twice the weight. Carrying a spare li-ion brick isn't too much of an issue, weight wise. AAs are more troublesome.


Mh... that's odd. Maybe Li-Ion collapses faster? But is able to recover? Or is it the other way round?


Yes, I think that's what they should do. Use the same port for transfering photos. And for crying out loud, use a standard cable that most people already have with them all the time (micro USB). You can charge your phone, transfer files from and to your phone, use it for battery packs, charge the camera, tablets, ...


The battery grip should of course always have space for AA, I agree.


My mother went to holiday with her small Canon superzoom that takes AAs. She had to carry 2 sets of batteries, and a rather bulky (though light) BC-700 charger (IMHO the best budget charger there is, comes from different brands, but it's great, charges all cells individually, treats them well, can repair them, ...). Then we had to find out that the batteries are in a bad shape, even though being of the eneloop variety and just a couple of years old. She ended up buying Alkaline AAs (occasionally, she couldn't always find them and tends to be a bit stingy too), which don't last nearly as long. So that's an advantage, but then again my K-5 Li-Ion battery is in much better shape, despite being about as old as her camera. She wouldn't have ran into that problem with Li-Ion in the first place. Which reminds me... with non rechargeable AAs my *istDS barely ran. Duracell, Energizer, ... 150 shots and it would be dead. The NiMH would be more around 1000 shots. On one trip that turned into a big issue, because I forgot my AA charger at home, and I couldn't always find non rechargeable batteries. Of course if I had forgotten my Li-Ion charger I would have been screwed even harder.


@Earl: I visited my mother, who lives on the (halfway) other side of the Earth. Forgot my charger there. Getting a replacement charger (that is way more awesome) wasn't too expensive though, cheaper than my BC-700.


Anyway, it's nice if they give the AA option, but IMHO I think it is overrated, and giving it USB charging capabilities with a common cable would be, IMHO, a much bigger advantage.
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Get a couple extra batteries and some small bag or something to carry them in. They go in your pocket when you go out and you will never lack for batteries. I charge the run down ones in the field, then recharge them when I get home. Have yet to miss a shot.

I learned this when I first started shooting with a DSLR. I came across some wildlife close in, set up and started shooting, then the whole thing died from lack of juice. Never again I said.
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Quick qeustion, the spec says it can use IR for the little remote releases, (F/O-RC1) is it just front or front and back? Been thru the specs and the write up on imaging resource but can't find out how many IR ports it has... Anyone???

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QuoteOriginally posted by jules Quote
Quick qeustion, the spec says it can use IR for the little remote releases, (F/O-RC1) is it just front or front and back? Been thru the specs and the write up on imaging resource but can't find out how many IR ports it has... Anyone???
Probably only front. Only the "metal body" cameras (K-7/5/3) have had rear IR sensors so far. That seems to be one of the product level differentiators, like the battery grip.
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Anyway, it's nice if they give the AA option, but IMHO I think it is overrated, and giving it USB charging capabilities with a common cable would be, IMHO, a much bigger advantage.

Ok. Who says it has to be either/or? One vs. another? Not every thing is an opposing battle.

And AA batteries is a top tier feature for me. Higher than flippy screen or even improved battery life.

While they've offered it as an option for many camera bodies... I suspect they didn't do this because they wanted to waste money on an unnecessary feature. No, probably more so because they saw the usefulness/desirability of such a feature and gave users another option.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jules Quote
Quick qeustion, the spec says it can use IR for the little remote releases, (F/O-RC1) is it just front or front and back? Been thru the specs and the write up on imaging resource but can't find out how many IR ports it has... Anyone???
You should probably be able to use a smartphone or tablet to release the shutter though... hopefully it will be possible to deactivate the live view in that mode, when you need to conserve battery life. But in any case it's not that much of an issue that the back doesn't have IR.

I didn't say that it's an either or thing, and if possible providing that option would be great. But I suspect the smaller grip took away the space to enable such an adapter? Or they just removed a feature beloved by some... wouldn't be the first time

If they have that USB thing they might also make an external AA pack that connects via USB (with or without changing the voltage).
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QuoteOriginally posted by kadajawi Quote
Anyway, it's nice if they give the AA option, but IMHO I think it is overrated, and giving it USB charging capabilities with a common cable would be, IMHO, a much bigger advantage
The problem is the USB Battery Charging spec is only for 5V at 0.5-1.5A 2.5-7.5W. The Pentax battery chargers output 8.4V at 700mA.

USB Power Delivery V1.0 was finalized in July 2012 can deliver up to 12V 3.0 A, 60 W 5.0 A, 100 W and requires "PD Aware" Cables (type-A and B connectors) and PD compliant hosts. So you'd have to upgrade your charging devices to be USB PD compliant as well as having the proper cable..

USB Power Delivery V2.0 was not finalized until July 2014 which requires USB 3.1 which uses the new Type-C connector. So you would either have to upgrade your charging devices to USB 3.1 or have a standalone USB 3.1 charger.

I don't know about you but I'd rather take the battery out to charge it. That way you can just swap in a fully charged battery and not wait for hours for the battery to charge. You also don't have to worry about heat issues from the charging battery damaging both the camera and battery.

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Probably only front. Only the "metal body" cameras (K-7/5/3) have had rear IR sensors so far. That seems to be one of the product level differentiators, like the battery grip.
As I recall some of the previews and reviews mention the IR port on front and back.

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QuoteOriginally posted by THoog Quote
Probably only front. Only the "metal body" cameras (K-7/5/3) have had rear IR sensors so far. That seems to be one of the product level differentiators, like the battery grip.
Thought that, thanks, why is the world obsessed with selfies? IR at the back for selfies, screen twist and get a new shutter button for selfies, suprised the K-S1 didn't come out with a seperate camera at the back!

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The problem is the USB Battery Charging spec is only for 5V at 0.5-1.5A 2.5-7.5W. The Pentax battery chargers output 8.4V at 700mA.

USB Power Delivery V1.0 was finalized in July 2012 can deliver up to 12V 3.0 A, 60 W 5.0 A, 100 W and requires "PD Aware" Cables (type-A and B connectors) and PD compliant hosts. So you'd have to upgrade your charging devices to be USB PD compliant as well as having the proper cable..

USB Power Delivery V2.0 was not finalized until July 2014 which requires USB 3.1 which uses the new Type-C connector. So you would either have to upgrade your charging devices to USB 3.1 or have a standalone USB 3.1 charger.

I don't know about you but I'd rather take the battery out to charge it. That way you can just swap in a fully charged battery and not wait for hours for the battery to charge. You also don't have to worry about heat issues from the charging battery damaging both the camera and battery.

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As I recall some of the previews and reviews mention the IR port on front and back.
Now I thought I'd read that somewhere but just can't find out where now, they don't even mention IR ports on the Ricoh Pentax home pages, confusion reigns...

Says one here... https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/pentax-k-s2-officially-announced.html

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As I recall some of the previews and reviews mention the IR port on front and back.
Don't see one:
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Don't see one:
Yep, there definitely is no rear IR receiver on the K-S2.
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Looking over the specs... this camera is my K-01 replacement. The tilt screen for macro and live view..... eliminates the right angle veiwfinder attachment and a lot of kneeling. This will make my life easier. If it had the K-3 AF system it would be a total winner.

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I just checked the announcement article on PF, it has been changed to say there is only one IR port

One of the comments asks why the specs say two ports and the photos show only one.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kadajawi Quote
The Samsung NX1 seems to be able to charge the battery in camera, though Samsung went too far and doesn't supply a proper, regular external charger. You have to buy that separately.
Their nx300 is the same so Samsung has been doing that for a while. I bought a basic charger with spare battery for $15ish, though the nx1 uses a larger battery. The in-cam capability is handy in the car though, as it's a standard micro-USB port on the camera not the oddball squarish or another custom variant. I have a solar pack for phone recharging, must do a test-dump from that to the camera..
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QuoteOriginally posted by jules Quote
why is the world obsessed with selfies?
Beats me. I know what I look like, and if I take a photo of a scene or a group of people, I know I was there. Anyway, with a face like mine, a photograph is definitely better without it.
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