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simon_199 · 02-09-2015, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by flogtv6

samples with D-FA 150-450 :

HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm f/4,5-5,6 ED DC AW - RICOH IMAGING EUROPE S.A.S

full size :

http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/66af6294aaf15de8afcdf9fb0cf1a100/IMGP1402.JPG
http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/52e078af245721225579f9bbd69f56c0/IMGP1416.JPG
http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/46d225267a79f15fbc29de644f84e1a7/IMGP1376.JPG

Well the images are 5.472px × 3.648px, that is 20MP if i am not mistaken...

Mike.P® · 02-09-2015, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by flogtv6

samples with D-FA 150-450 :

HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm f/4,5-5,6 ED DC AW - RICOH IMAGING EUROPE S.A.S

full size :

http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/66af6294aaf15de8afcdf9fb0cf1a100/IMGP1402.JPG
http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/52e078af245721225579f9bbd69f56c0/IMGP1416.JPG
http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/46d225267a79f15fbc29de644f84e1a7/IMGP1376.JPG

Those don't do the camera or the lens any justice IMO

But that's Pentax for you ....

afan137 · 02-09-2015, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by ZeljkoS

This is not a top level camera, why would Pentax do that? Who would buy the K-3 then

The Idea is, try to compete mid-range dslr with a good number. Prosumers care about how many pixel, how many AF points, how is the FPS, and etc. Look at D5500, or the new EOS T6i, or Sony A6000.
Amid the tough competition, Pentax can't play conservative like this. Still offering technology that has been used 3 years ago. Of course K-3 still hold the advantage in the buffer size, build quality, FPS, and many more. And by the time K-3 need replacement, there should be better tech and innovation like better AF, sensor shift, etc.
It looks to me K-S2 is what K-S1 should be, and that is pity.

**clackers** · 02-09-2015, 03:46 AM

Originally posted by afan137

The Idea is, try to compete mid-range dslr with a good number.

The S-line isn't aimed at traditional DSLR users ... it's trying to grow the market by aiming at people wanting more from their pictures than their phones or P&Ses do.

The products must be more distinctive than the entry level Canikons, because they are mass produced and will win on price.

thibs · 02-09-2015, 03:49 AM

Originally posted by Mike.P®

Those don't do the camera or the lens any justice IMO

But that's Pentax for you ....

I found them sharp enough at web size, a lot more than usual samples.
Didn't take time to look more carefully though.

**filoxophy** · 02-09-2015, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by afan137

Still offering technology that has been used 3 years ago

It has a new 20mp sensor, focus peaking (PRIME MII), WiFi, flippy screen, WR body, new compact/silent AF/WR/retractable kit zoom--but yeah, no new tech other than that.

Mistral75 · 02-09-2015, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by simon_199

Well the images are 5.472px × 3.648px, that is 20MP if i am not mistaken...

Indeed. K-S2 having a 20 Mpix sensor is therefore confirmed.

simon_199 · 02-09-2015, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Indeed. K-S2 having a 20 Mpix sensor is therefore confirmed.

We should be rather happy about that, the sensor on the K-S1 seems one of its strong points. Furthermore this implies a rather affordable camera, priced way below the K-3. I hope there are some interesting features that make it special, maybe the re-introduction of video SR (the flippy screen might suggest video capabilities as a strong selling point ? ). I also hope some missing features on the K-S1 are back, like the electronic level, or the little known sensor-shift composition adjustment that the K-50 had.

I'm not convinced that really the S stands for special and that this line will be run in parallel with a more traditional SLR line, in which we should expect a "true" K-50 replacement... this one has nothing unconventional. Probably it's just a change in the naming scheme, maybe the K-3 successor will be called the K-S3

If the street price will be on the same level of the current K-S1 pricing (overpriced in my opinion), then i'll buy this K-S2, with its new compact kit lens which is a welcom addition for me as i don't have a single WR lens right now.

gazonk · 02-09-2015, 04:19 AM

Hmm, the french samples are from firmware version 1.0 - so release is imminent?

ogl · 02-09-2015, 04:34 AM

Does it mean that K-S1 will be discontinued soon?

kenspo · 02-09-2015, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by filoxophy

It has not yet been officially announced with full specs, so either someone would be guessing or they would be breaking an NDA.

Edit: the specs above linked by beachgardener are the first I've seen, and they're not from Pentax HQ. We'll know everything soon enough.

23:00 CET today

Mistral75 · 02-09-2015, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

23:00 CET today

Back to the good ol' Tuesday's announcements from Ricoh Imaging

.

(CET = UTC+1; Tokyo time = ACT = UTC+9)

Mike.P® · 02-09-2015, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Does it mean that K-S1 will be discontinued soon?

According to Kenspo it is not a replacement for the K-S1.

kenspo · 02-09-2015, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by Mike.P®

According to Kenspo it is not a replacement for the K-S1.

They say its not. So i guess it isnt

Mistral75 · 02-09-2015, 04:58 AM

They always say that. K-x was supposed to be over and above K-m, K-r over and above K-x and so on.

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02-09-2015, 03:29 AM	#406
simon_199 Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 614	Originally posted by flogtv6 samples with D-FA 150-450 : HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm f/4,5-5,6 ED DC AW - RICOH IMAGING EUROPE S.A.S full size : http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/66af6294aaf15de8afcdf9fb0cf1a100/IMGP1402.JPG http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/52e078af245721225579f9bbd69f56c0/IMGP1416.JPG http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/46d225267a79f15fbc29de644f84e1a7/IMGP1376.JPG Well the images are 5.472px × 3.648px, that is 20MP if i am not mistaken...

02-09-2015, 03:34 AM	#407
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by flogtv6 samples with D-FA 150-450 : HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm f/4,5-5,6 ED DC AW - RICOH IMAGING EUROPE S.A.S full size : http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/66af6294aaf15de8afcdf9fb0cf1a100/IMGP1402.JPG http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/52e078af245721225579f9bbd69f56c0/IMGP1416.JPG http://www.ricoh-imaging.fr/media/46d225267a79f15fbc29de644f84e1a7/IMGP1376.JPG Those don't do the camera or the lens any justice IMO But that's Pentax for you ....

02-09-2015, 03:37 AM	#408
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	Originally posted by ZeljkoS This is not a top level camera, why would Pentax do that? Who would buy the K-3 then The Idea is, try to compete mid-range dslr with a good number. Prosumers care about how many pixel, how many AF points, how is the FPS, and etc. Look at D5500, or the new EOS T6i, or Sony A6000. Amid the tough competition, Pentax can't play conservative like this. Still offering technology that has been used 3 years ago. Of course K-3 still hold the advantage in the buffer size, build quality, FPS, and many more. And by the time K-3 need replacement, there should be better tech and innovation like better AF, sensor shift, etc. It looks to me K-S2 is what K-S1 should be, and that is pity.

02-09-2015, 03:46 AM	#409
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by afan137 The Idea is, try to compete mid-range dslr with a good number. The S-line isn't aimed at traditional DSLR users ... it's trying to grow the market by aiming at people wanting more from their pictures than their phones or P&Ses do. The products must be more distinctive than the entry level Canikons, because they are mass produced and will win on price.

02-09-2015, 03:49 AM	#410
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Mike.P® Those don't do the camera or the lens any justice IMO But that's Pentax for you .... I found them sharp enough at web size, a lot more than usual samples. Didn't take time to look more carefully though.

02-09-2015, 03:50 AM	#411
filoxophy Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,133	Originally posted by afan137 Still offering technology that has been used 3 years ago It has a new 20mp sensor, focus peaking (PRIME MII), WiFi, flippy screen, WR body, new compact/silent AF/WR/retractable kit zoom--but yeah, no new tech other than that.

02-09-2015, 03:53 AM	#412
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by simon_199 Well the images are 5.472px × 3.648px, that is 20MP if i am not mistaken... Indeed. K-S2 having a 20 Mpix sensor is therefore confirmed.

02-09-2015, 04:04 AM	#413
simon_199 Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 614	Originally posted by Mistral75 Indeed. K-S2 having a 20 Mpix sensor is therefore confirmed. We should be rather happy about that, the sensor on the K-S1 seems one of its strong points. Furthermore this implies a rather affordable camera, priced way below the K-3. I hope there are some interesting features that make it special, maybe the re-introduction of video SR (the flippy screen might suggest video capabilities as a strong selling point ? ). I also hope some missing features on the K-S1 are back, like the electronic level, or the little known sensor-shift composition adjustment that the K-50 had. I'm not convinced that really the S stands for special and that this line will be run in parallel with a more traditional SLR line, in which we should expect a "true" K-50 replacement... this one has nothing unconventional. Probably it's just a change in the naming scheme, maybe the K-3 successor will be called the K-S3 If the street price will be on the same level of the current K-S1 pricing (overpriced in my opinion), then i'll buy this K-S2, with its new compact kit lens which is a welcom addition for me as i don't have a single WR lens right now.

02-09-2015, 04:19 AM	#414
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Hmm, the french samples are from firmware version 1.0 - so release is imminent?

02-09-2015, 04:34 AM	#415
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Does it mean that K-S1 will be discontinued soon?

02-09-2015, 04:49 AM	#416
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by filoxophy It has not yet been officially announced with full specs, so either someone would be guessing or they would be breaking an NDA. Edit: the specs above linked by beachgardener are the first I've seen, and they're not from Pentax HQ. We'll know everything soon enough. 23:00 CET today

02-09-2015, 04:52 AM	#417
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by kenspo 23:00 CET today Back to the good ol' Tuesday's announcements from Ricoh Imaging . (CET = UTC+1; Tokyo time = ACT = UTC+9)

02-09-2015, 04:52 AM	#418
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by ogl Does it mean that K-S1 will be discontinued soon? According to Kenspo it is not a replacement for the K-S1.

02-09-2015, 04:55 AM	#419
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by Mike.P® According to Kenspo it is not a replacement for the K-S1. They say its not. So i guess it isnt

02-09-2015, 04:58 AM	#420
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	They always say that. K-x was supposed to be over and above K-m, K-r over and above K-x and so on.

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